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      11-15-2006 09:11 AM #1
      We're getting there...
      Quote, originally posted by DarkHorizons »
      At the European Media Leaders Summit in London, MGM chief Harry Sloan confirmed that the studio plans to focus on its five core franchises.
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      Finally, Sloan confirmed MGM was in talks with Peter Jackson to make two movies based on J.R.R. Tolkein's "The Hobbit" though that is contingent on negotiations with New Line, which owns the right to produce "The Hobbit".
      The first "Hobbit" will be a direct adaptation of "The Hobbit," and the second would be drawn from footnotes and source material connecting "The Hobbit" with "The Lord of the Rings".



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      11-15-2006 09:58 AM #2
      [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] on the Bilbo Baggins movie.
      WTF is "two or three tentpoles?"
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      11-15-2006 10:02 AM #3
      I cut the stuff out of the article that didn't relate to the Hobbit movie
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      11-15-2006 11:34 AM #4
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      five core franchises - James Bond, "The Pink Panther," "Thomas Crown," "Rocky" and "The Hobbit".

      "Core franchises"? I see one franchise, a bad attempt to capitalize on a historic series that will hopefully not have a sequel, a single decent movie that is rumored to have a sequel in the works, another attempt to capitalize on a historic series (reserving judgement on that one), and a one-off 'prequel' to a franchise.
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      11-15-2006 11:52 AM #5
      Yep, MGM is just confirming their ideas suck I guess.

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      11-15-2006 12:29 PM #6
      They hiring??
      Cause I come up with better sh*t than those ideas, when I'm on the can

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      Quote, originally posted by Arsigi »
      "Core franchises"? I see one franchise, a bad attempt to capitalize on a historic series that will hopefully not have a sequel, a single decent movie that is rumored to have a sequel in the works, another attempt to capitalize on a historic series (reserving judgement on that one), and a one-off 'prequel' to a franchise.
      this is how business works

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      11-15-2006 02:30 PM #8
      I will be sp psyched if these movies are given the same time and attention to detail as the LOTR trilogy. 3 of my favorite movies EVER, and probably my favorite book series EVER.
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      11-15-2006 02:39 PM #9
      OMG beng comes to save the day and actually talk about the MOVIE and not how much better they could run MGM
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      11-15-2006 02:44 PM #10
      You're right - I didn't even think much about THE MOVIE, sorry.
      For the record, I will be very excited about The Hobbit, and share the sentiment that I hope it is done up to the standards set by the LOTR movies.
      Anyone think Ian Holm will involved as Bilbo? I wouldn't hold my breath, but he would be obviously ideal for the role.
      Edit: - nevermind that - I didn't realize he is now 75 years old!
      I don't really understand the 'two movie' approach, though.
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      11-15-2006 02:52 PM #11
      They did principle filming for LOTR in 2000 when Holm was 69. He'd be 77 or so when they film the Hobbit movie if it goes smoothly. He looked great as a young Bilbo in the opening sequence of FOTR but can a 77 year old man pull off a 50 year old running doing a crapload of action scenes? I dunno... but he would be the obvious choice IMO.
      I like the idea of 2 movies if it's done well cause hell it's more LOTR for me but I think a lot of "creativity" will need to be done to make a second story just based off of Tolkien's notes of what happened between the 2 books. There's plenty of stuff, just nothing that Tolkien ever pulled together into an actual story.
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      11-15-2006 11:17 PM #12
      Finally, a movie for the best book of the series.
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      11-16-2006 09:13 AM #13
      Quote, originally posted by Big M »
      Finally, a movie for the best book of the series.

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      11-16-2006 09:52 AM #14
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      Finally, a movie for the best book of the series.

      You mean they're making a movie of The Silmarillion ?
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      11-16-2006 01:18 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by Karma »
      They did principle filming for LOTR in 2000 when Holm was 69. He'd be 77 or so when they film the Hobbit movie if it goes smoothly. He looked great as a young Bilbo in the opening sequence of FOTR but can a 77 year old man pull off a 50 year old running doing a crapload of action scenes? I dunno... but he would be the obvious choice IMO.

      [Start geekdom]
      Don't forget though a Hobbit at age 50 is actually like a human in their mid to late 30's. The "coming of age for a Hobbit is 33 which would equal a man's coming of age at 18. I love the job that Ian Holm did as Bilbo is LOTR but he isn't the right man for the job unfortunately. I have no idea who I would choose though...
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      Quote, originally posted by Karma »
      I like the idea of 2 movies if it's done well cause hell it's more LOTR for me but I think a lot of "creativity" will need to be done to make a second story just based off of Tolkien's notes of what happened between the 2 books. There's plenty of stuff, just nothing that Tolkien ever pulled together into an actual story.

      [Restart geekdom]I too am a little skeptical about this. While I didn't hate the Arwen-Aragorn love crap that Jackson portrayed in LOTR I would be furious if there was some ridiculous love story portion of the Hobbit. There is however plenty for Jackson to cover in a 2nd movie. It's just how it could be covered that generates some concern for me. Over all though, I am very excited![/Re-end geekdom]

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      11-16-2006 02:51 PM #16
      I can't wait.
      I have complete faith that Jackson will dedicate just as much effort to these movies as he did the trilogy. If anything the experience that everyone gained in working on the trilogy will only make these movies all the better.
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      11-16-2006 04:04 PM #17
      Quote, originally posted by beng »
      Them's fightin words.

      I love the Lord of the Rings as a whole but in my opinion the Hobbit is the greatest book ever written. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      BTW- I assume you've all heard about the new Tolkien book that is due out in 2007 right?

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      11-16-2006 04:07 PM #18
      I never read The Silmarillion so not sure if I will pick this up until I do.
      I never really cared for the idea of his son piecing together his father's old stuff into a story which is what this is. I mean it's based off of his notes but it just isn't written by the author at the end of the day.
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      11-16-2006 04:09 PM #19
      Here is a snippet from an interview Jackson did with AICN last month that I wasn't aware of.
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      We think the two film idea is really smart. One of the problems with The Hobbit is that it is a fairly simple kids story, and doesn't really feel like The Lord of the Rings. Tonally I mean. It's always may be a little worried, but with two films that kinda gets easier. It allows for more complexity. At that implied stuff with Gandalf and the White Council and the return of Sauron could be fully explored.
      Gentlemen, you had my curiosity. But now you have my attention.

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      11-16-2006 04:37 PM #20
      Quote, originally posted by Karma »
      I never read The Silmarillion so not sure if I will pick this up until I do.

      While the Silmarillion can be a tough read the 1st time through one can still really appreciate the brilliance behind it. It certainly doesn't have the standard flow that the Hobbit has it has so much sheer information it's astonishing. To just think about how much thought Tolkien put into his world is just awesome.
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      I never really cared for the idea of his son piecing together his father's old stuff into a story which is what this is. I mean it's based off of his notes but it just isn't written by the author at the end of the day.

      Don't forget though, Tolkien wrote the Hobbit to entertain his children initially. I've heard that Tolkien would tell his sons all kinds of stories about Middle Earth that he never had the chance to write down. Based on that I'm fine with Christopher compiling his father's notes. It certainly won't be the equal of the Lord of the Rings but I bet I will be still worth picking up if you're into Middle Earth.

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      11-16-2006 08:22 PM #21
      The Silmarillion would never work as a movie, no lead charecters, too many charecters, and just way too much info.
      Who ever even tries to write a screen play based on that book should get the Oscar on effort alone.

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      11-16-2006 08:58 PM #22
      Quote, originally posted by Shere Khan »
      The Silmarillion would never work as a movie, no lead charecters, too many charecters, and just way too much info.
      Who ever even tries to write a screen play based on that book should get the Oscar on effort alone.

      The Silmarillion is a history book. It isn't really meant to be a long single narrative like LOTR or The Hobbit. Although, if someone were to make a TV series of the book it might work.
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      11-20-2006 09:11 AM #23
      And that is the end of that. I now have zero hope for anything these ****ing idiots try to push out.
      http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/061120l.php
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      Jackson Says No To Doing "The Hobbit"
      Posted: Monday November 20th 2006 1:07am
      Source: The One Ring.Net
      Author: Garth Franklin

      It doesn't get much more official than this folks. In a lengthy letter to The One Ring.Net, "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy helmer Peter Jackson confirmed will not be involved in the making of the series 'prequel' "The Hobbit".
      For sometime a cloud over Jackson's involvement has been swirling due to an unresolved lawsuit between Jackson and New Line over incomes on "The Fellowship of the Ring". Until the issue was settled there wasn't expected to be any involvement on Jackson's part.
      Now, producer Mark Ordesky called Jackson's manager and "told him that New Line would no longer be requiring our services on the Hobbit and the LOTR 'prequel'. This was a courtesy call to let us know that the studio was now actively looking to hire another filmmaker for both projects".
      The reason for this? According to the letter "Ordesky said that New Line has a limited time option on the film rights they have obtained from Saul Zaentz, and because we won't discuss making the movies until the lawsuit is resolved, the studio is going to have to hire another director".
      Gentlemen, you had my curiosity. But now you have my attention.

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      11-20-2006 09:19 AM #24
      that is just terrible terrible news. its funny how these people can squabble over money when there is so much to be had.
      the prequels are destined to suck...
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