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    07-30-2012 07:23 PM #386
    Quote Originally Posted by NoDubJustYet View Post
    So... with three whole movies they didn't cut anything from the book. Right??
    Well, that's what "fans" whinged about when it came to LOTR.

    Now, he is doing his best to please them... well, those "fans" still ain't happy.

    As a big fan of Peter Jackson's work, I say bring it on!

    Edit: Looks like they are bringing some stuff from appendices of TLOTR.
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    07-30-2012 07:24 PM #387
    They better not cut anything from the book then, there's no excuse.



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    07-30-2012 07:53 PM #388
    Quote Originally Posted by ErikGTI View Post
    They better not cut anything from the book then, there's no excuse.



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    That will be saved for the Special Director's Cut Unedited Extended Edition that will be available on three separate DVD/Blu Ray releases spaced out about three months from each other

  4. 07-31-2012 07:56 AM #389
    Quote Originally Posted by MeineFolks'wagen View Post
    That will be saved for the Special Director's Cut Unedited Extended Edition that will be available on three separate DVD/Blu Ray releases spaced out about three months from each other
    total running time...15 hours.

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    07-31-2012 12:37 PM #390
    Quote Originally Posted by J-Tim View Post
    Well, that's what "fans" whinged about when it came to LOTR.

    Now, he is doing his best to please them... well, those "fans" still ain't happy.

    As a big fan of Peter Jackson's work, I say bring it on!

    Edit: Looks like they are bringing some stuff from appendices of TLOTR.
    Yes they are. I am AMPED. You cant be a "fan" of Tolkien and not want to see as much of his writing as possible translated to the big screen by Jackson.

    LOTR was superb.

    All three films about the Hobbit will be as well.

    Cant wait!!!
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    07-31-2012 03:42 PM #391
    Quote Originally Posted by beng View Post
    LOTR was superb.
    It had 3 lengthy books to pull material from for 3 movies.

    The Hobbit has 1 short book to cover 3 movies.

    Hoping for the best, but Jackson is far from infallible. Remember, um... everything he's done since LOTR?
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    07-31-2012 03:50 PM #392
    Quote Originally Posted by Karma View Post
    It had 3 lengthy books to pull material from for 3 movies.

    The Hobbit has 1 short book to cover 3 movies.
    This.

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    07-31-2012 06:57 PM #393
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
    I was at Best Buy the other day and they were showing Tron on a 70" LCD with Truemotion turned on. It looked so stupid and cheesey, I asked the salesman why they had it turned on and he said he thought it looked better. I almost called him an idiot. I am glad my plasma doesn't have that crap. from what I read a lot of the people that saw the 10 minute footage said it looked pretty bad compared to 24 fps.
    You just have to get used to it. Right now your brain has learned that 24 fps = movies and that's why faster rates feel wrong. But once you get used to it, you won't be happy to go back to 24 fps choppyness and bluriness.

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    07-31-2012 07:07 PM #394
    Quote Originally Posted by impact View Post
    You just have to get used to it. Right now your brain has learned that 24 fps = movies and that's why faster rates feel wrong. But once you get used to it, you won't be happy to go back to 24 fps choppyness and bluriness.
    I'm not going to get used to it. It really looks like crap. I was at dinner the other day and the restaurant's TV had smooth motion turned on and I almost asked them to fix it. It makes everything look like it was filmed with a camcorder.

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    07-31-2012 07:19 PM #395
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
    I'm not going to get used to it. It really looks like crap. I was at dinner the other day and the restaurant's TV had smooth motion turned on and I almost asked them to fix it. It makes everything look like it was filmed with a camcorder.
    Uncalibrated TV in diner with Truemotion turned on playing a TV broadcast != Digital theater natively playing source material filmed at 48fps with RED cameras.

    I'm not saying 48fps won't suck, but we simply can't compare to what we've seen on TVs and read online about the 10 minute 48fps demo. Let's all give it the 3 hours in the theater and provide our reviews on 12/14...
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    07-31-2012 10:09 PM #396
    Quote Originally Posted by Karma View Post
    The Hobbit has 1 short book to cover 3 movies.

    Hoping for the best, but Jackson is far from infallible. Remember, um... everything he's done since LOTR?
    1. There is more than enough additional material in LOTR appendices which covers what has happened in Hobbit.

    2. What about King Kong and The Lovely Bones ? Both are fantastic!
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    07-31-2012 10:11 PM #397
    Quote Originally Posted by Karma View Post
    Uncalibrated TV in diner with Truemotion turned on playing a TV broadcast != Digital theater natively playing source material filmed at 48fps with RED cameras.

    I'm not saying 48fps won't suck, but we simply can't compare to what we've seen on TVs and read online about the 10 minute 48fps demo. Let's all give it the 3 hours in the theater and provide our reviews on 12/14...
    My original post about this was in regards to a 70" LCD calibrated playing a Tron Blu Ray. It still looked awful.

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    07-31-2012 10:14 PM #398
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
    My original post about this was in regards to a 70" LCD calibrated playing a Tron Blu Ray. It still looked awful.
    Tron is not a movie, filmed in 48fps. Anything upconverted/upscaled will never look as good as good.
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    08-01-2012 10:18 AM #399
    Quote Originally Posted by J-Tim View Post
    1. There is more than enough additional material in LOTR appendices which covers what has happened in Hobbit.

    2. What about King Kong and The Lovely Bones ? Both are fantastic!
    Fact of the matter is Jackson is working with less than 1/3 of the material he was for the first 3 movies, but producing the same amount of content. It's a valid concern, but one I'm hopeful proves to be a non-issue.

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    08-01-2012 10:19 AM #400
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
    My original post about this was in regards to a 70" LCD calibrated playing a Tron Blu Ray. It still looked awful.
    A 70" calibrated LCD at a restaurant? I need dining establishments with these A/V standards in my area.
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    08-01-2012 11:44 AM #401
    Quote Originally Posted by Karma View Post
    A 70" calibrated LCD at a restaurant? I need dining establishments with these A/V standards in my area.
    You are confusing two different posts.



    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
    I was at Best Buy the other day and they were showing Tron on a 70" LCD with Truemotion turned on. It looked so stupid and cheesey, I asked the salesman why they had it turned on and he said he thought it looked better. I almost called him an idiot. I am glad my plasma doesn't have that crap. from what I read a lot of the people that saw the 10 minute footage said it looked pretty bad compared to 24 fps.
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
    I'm not going to get used to it. It really looks like crap. I was at dinner the other day and the restaurant's TV had smooth motion turned on and I almost asked them to fix it. It makes everything look like it was filmed with a camcorder.

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    08-01-2012 12:42 PM #402
    Jesus Chr!st, can we start a new Hobbit thread and rename this one?

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    08-01-2012 01:06 PM #403
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
    You are confusing two different posts.
    Got it. Point holds though, you can't compare either to 48fps source material displayed via a calibrated digital projector.
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    08-01-2012 03:58 PM #404
    Quote Originally Posted by FlashRedGLS1.8T View Post
    Jesus Chr!st, can we start a new Hobbit thread and rename this one?
    The 48fps talk is relevant to the topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karma View Post
    Got it. Point holds though, you can't compare either to 48fps source material displayed via a calibrated digital projector.
    I said I would hold final judgement until I saw it. I am just worried. They were supposedly going to show the 48 fps trailer before TDKR, but they didn't, at least in my theater.

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    08-01-2012 04:18 PM #405
    There is no 48fps trailer (yet), to my knowledge.
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    08-01-2012 04:29 PM #406
    Quote Originally Posted by Karma View Post
    It had 3 lengthy books to pull material from for 3 movies.

    The Hobbit has 1 short book to cover 3 movies.

    Hoping for the best, but Jackson is far from infallible. Remember, um... everything he's done since LOTR?
    There is enough material in LOTR to cover at least 6 more hours of screen time. It could have been 5 movies. Maybe 6. So I could see the Hobbit and the appendices/unwritten material making it to 3. They don't all have to be 3 hours either.
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    08-01-2012 04:35 PM #407
    Yep, shorter movies would help here.
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    08-02-2012 08:10 AM #409
    So, part one will be the background to the whole Hobbit/LOTR universe?

    I can see it now... three months before release they decide to push it back so PJ can make The Silmarillion.

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    08-03-2012 09:37 AM #410
    Great analysis of the decision by TORN. My pessimism is slightly curbed

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    08-12-2012 11:18 AM #411
    We need a full trailer for this thing already. Last one was 8 freaking months ago!
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    08-14-2012 10:41 PM #412
    Quote Originally Posted by NoDubJustYet View Post
    So, part one will be the background to the whole Hobbit/LOTR universe?

    I can see it now... three months before release they decide to push it back so PJ can make The Silmarillion.
    I would be OK with that.

    And I would love to see a new trailer aswell. Haven't seen the original one in the theater since Batman. That's always what i'm most excited for besides the movie >.>

  28. 09-09-2012 10:50 PM #413
    release dates...

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey arrives on Dec 14 this year as planned, and The Hobbit: The Desolation Of Smaug hits screens on December 13, 2013, as was always the schedule for the second film. Then the freshly retitled The Hobbit: There And Back Again will be in cinemas on July 18, 2014.

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    09-10-2012 04:24 PM #414
    3 straight years of Hobbit awesomeness.



    Just saw the latest preview on an IMAX screen before Raiders of the Lost Ark. Holy **** this looks awesome. I didnt have any issue with the preview. Effects look awesome. Preview as very polished.
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    09-11-2012 12:34 PM #415
    It's going to be a good three years.
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    09-11-2012 01:31 PM #416
    Quote Originally Posted by EK20 View Post
    It's going to be a good three years.
    I loved the feeling of looking forward to December every year for a new LotR movie. I'm looking forward to these Hobbit movies much the same. The Hobbit is THE movie I'm looking forward to for the rest of the year.

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    09-11-2012 02:21 PM #417
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
    I loved the feeling of looking forward to December every year for a new LotR movie. I'm looking forward to these Hobbit movies much the same. The Hobbit is THE movie I'm looking forward to for the rest of the year.
    No doubt. My son is almost three.. so he'll still be too little even when the third one comes out. ...but at some point, I really look forward to watching all of these with him. ...but first, I want to read him the books
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    09-11-2012 06:29 PM #418
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
    I loved the feeling of looking forward to December every year for a new LotR movie.
    Yep, brings back fond memories. Can't wait.
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    09-11-2012 09:15 PM #419
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
    I loved the feeling of looking forward to December every year for a new LotR movie. I'm looking forward to these Hobbit movies much the same. The Hobbit is THE movie I'm looking forward to for the rest of the year.
    Same here. It's 2001-2003 all over again!
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    09-13-2012 07:47 AM #420
    3 long books = 1 movie each, with a re-release of an extended movies a year after...

    1 short childrens book = 3 movies

    Milk it for what you can I guess.

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