Twin 24V Lupo

**RipCity Euros** · 10-14-2009 06:26 PM

Good work

**Rallye 1.8T** · 10-14-2009 07:59 PM

It's official :
90 HP direct port on 24V - no problem

It's working almost perfect on both engines.

**give_it_to_dem** · 10-14-2009 08:51 PM

Quote, originally posted by Rallye 1.8T »

It's official :
90 HP direct port on 24V - no problem

It's working almost perfect on both engines.

Vids plsssssssssssss

**Rallye 1.8T** · 10-15-2009 09:14 AM

**thewhitsnpt** · 10-15-2009 09:33 AM

Oh man.

**JettaGetUpandGo** · 10-15-2009 10:57 AM

Slow.

**Breadfan5968** · 10-17-2009 10:02 AM

Can't see ****!

Sounds sweet though!

**Rallye 1.8T** · 10-18-2009 04:52 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMzTdYRxdd4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHadSiZ5-DQ

fried clutch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMzTdYRxdd4

Best time 11.9 with fried clutch and 90 BHP NOS.

Next race, new clutches, 150BHP NOS

**koko5869** · 10-18-2009 05:14 PM

Quote, originally posted by Rallye 1.8T »

Next race, new clutches, 150BHP NOS

so odd to hear.

**Apsik** · 10-18-2009 05:41 PM

Quote, originally posted by Rallye 1.8T »

Best time 11.9 with fried clutch and 90 BHP NOS.
Next race, new clutches, 150BHP NOS

I know you will improve the "time"

**mescaline** · 10-18-2009 06:11 PM

It should run low 10s with 150hp NOS

**bwell01** · 10-19-2009 02:02 AM

Quote, originally posted by mescaline »

It should run low 10s with 150hp NOS

traction is the enemy

**Rallye 1.8T** · 10-20-2009 11:41 AM

Few pics from race

Malo slika sa drugih foruma:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_YmkUGvrK...1.JPG

**rigger** · 10-20-2009 06:45 PM

Bump because this is the sickest thread ever.

**gtiiiiiiii** · 10-20-2009 11:48 PM

Well, I just read this whole thread, at least the important posts anyhow. Really cool idea, it will be nice to see it on the 150 shot for each motor.
Seems like everybody gets so caught up on one engine making more power than the other, but it doesn't matter at all.
If one engine is making 200 horsepower and the other is making 150, then the 200 hp engine would be taking more load off the 150 hp engine. The speed wouldn't be an issue at all to control.

Consider a 1000 kilo car with 300 horsepower and a 2000 kilo car with 300 horsepower.
The accelerative force required to move the 2000 kilo car is theoretically twice that of the 1000 kilo car. Were you to double the power of the 2000 kilo car by adding another 300 horsepower engine to it, it will be the same power to weight ratio as the first car and function exactly like it in all regards (within reason of course).

So, with one engine producing less power, the other motor will take up the slack so to speak, and allow the "weaker" engine to rev with a lighter load. It will not slow the other engine down because it is producing power and trying to accelerate, not slow down like in decel where engine compression and inertia is slowing down the internals.

Ever taken a go kart up to top speed then gone down hill and it went even faster? It's because more load was taken off the engine allowing it to use its horsepower more effectively, due to the force of gravity.
A second engine also creates force.

Modified by gtiiiiiiii at 8:56 PM 10-20-2009

**stascom** · 10-21-2009 12:26 AM

Well noted. The engines are the same. So their speed limit is the same, they will max out at the same velocity (in different amount of time based on the power, if they were taken independently). It's just that the one with more power output will end up doing most of the work.

**Rallye 1.8T** · 10-22-2009 05:47 PM

Quote, originally posted by gtiiiiiiii »

Well, I just read this whole thread, at least the important posts anyhow. Really cool idea, it will be nice to see it on the 150 shot for each motor.
Seems like everybody gets so caught up on one engine making more power than the other, but it doesn't matter at all.
If one engine is making 200 horsepower and the other is making 150, then the 200 hp engine would be taking more load off the 150 hp engine. The speed wouldn't be an issue at all to control.

Consider a 1000 kilo car with 300 horsepower and a 2000 kilo car with 300 horsepower.
The accelerative force required to move the 2000 kilo car is theoretically twice that of the 1000 kilo car. Were you to double the power of the 2000 kilo car by adding another 300 horsepower engine to it, it will be the same power to weight ratio as the first car and function exactly like it in all regards (within reason of course).

So, with one engine producing less power, the other motor will take up the slack so to speak, and allow the "weaker" engine to rev with a lighter load. It will not slow the other engine down because it is producing power and trying to accelerate, not slow down like in decel where engine compression and inertia is slowing down the internals.

Ever taken a go kart up to top speed then gone down hill and it went even faster? It's because more load was taken off the engine allowing it to use its horsepower more effectively, due to the force of gravity.
A second engine also creates force.

Modified by gtiiiiiiii at 8:56 PM 10-20-2009

**Rallye 1.8T** · 10-22-2009 05:48 PM

I'm in Germany this week. So I visited KW factory

At KW they decided to make a photosession for their homepage.

Preparing for fotoshooting

A little detailing

Fotoshooting

Remapped ECUs for more NOS and rev limiter moved from 6800 to 7500RPM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUkVxaPvMg4

**autotragik b3attlewagen** · 10-23-2009 08:45 AM

congrats on the photoshoot.. Car is outstanding.

**Rallye 1.8T** · 10-23-2009 07:38 PM

Photos by KW-suspension photograph

**koko5869** · 10-23-2009 09:32 PM

widebody
drag radials

what is it you do for a living. you dont have to answer that, but im intrigued.

**Apsik** · 10-24-2009 01:18 AM

I'm speechless

Great pictures!!

**mujjuman** · 10-25-2009 11:20 PM

is it fast?

**optiks** · 10-26-2009 12:03 AM

run those dump tubes out of the car lol

**vr6jettagli** · 10-26-2009 12:36 AM

WOW ! Im speachless

**eurovw95** · 10-26-2009 12:47 AM

This has a very high WOW factor.. Just awesome..

**jstone09** · 10-26-2009 12:54 AM

Quote, originally posted by mujjuman »

is it fast?

Are u serious??

**Rallye 1.8T** · 10-26-2009 09:07 AM

Quote, originally posted by mujjuman »

is it fast?

Not enough

**autotragik b3attlewagen** · 10-26-2009 09:18 AM

Quote, originally posted by Rallye 1.8T »

Not enough

We you

**pennswoods** · 10-27-2009 08:53 PM

interesting project.

**orange1218** · 10-27-2009 08:58 PM

Quote, originally posted by Rallye 1.8T »

What do people (who haven't been watching this thread for ages) have to say about your car? What is the most common question you hear?

**Rallye 1.8T** · 10-28-2009 09:35 AM

Quote, originally posted by orange1218 »

What do people (who haven't been watching this thread for ages) have to say about your car? What is the most common question you hear?

When they see Lupo , first words : '' Oh , Lupo V6! '' and then they see rear engine and there is no words, they just started laughing

Common question are about syncronising engines

**Anniekins** · 10-29-2009 04:51 PM

Freaking amazing. I love looking at this thread, keep it comin'!

**vdubchop2k4** · 10-29-2009 07:57 PM

amazing question wat kinda of engine management are u using ?

**Rallye 1.8T** · 10-30-2009 05:05 AM

Stock 24V ECUs

VWVortex

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