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    03-28-2010 11:09 PM #71
    just did this this weekend, your instructions made it easy, thanks bro
    oh yeah and i think ive got everyone beat $32 from the stealership, but at least they didnt charge me for the oring


    Modified by makeluvtomyvw at 10:10 PM 3-28-2010

  2. 04-05-2010 07:17 PM #72
    being the great mechanic that I am, I overtightened and stripped the thread on the block. anyone have any suggestions?

  3. 04-09-2010 04:17 PM #73
    i replaced 2 coolant flanges and i also got new o rings and used the high temp gasket sealer and i still have pink putty building around there....and now i have a serious leak but i have no idea where it is...no g12 on ground and im filling up 1L of g12 every 3 days

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    04-28-2010 01:27 AM #74
    DIY helped me much! No more leaking coolant!!!!

    Next up is replacing the front oxygen sensor @ the exhaust manifold! I know there's a DIY for this somewhere too!


  5. 06-24-2010 03:01 PM #75
    Just completed the job. I did not loosen the bolt on the bar. There was enough play in it to move up up a couple of inches to get it out. Thanks for the write up.

  6. 07-26-2010 11:03 AM #76
    Helping my son do this job on his 2004 GLI. The bottom stud mounting for the coolant flange is also holding a bundle of aluminum fuel lines. The bracket holding the fuel lines needs to come off that stud before the flange can come off. Is it safe to push the lines that far (about 3/4 inch) without causing trouble, or do I need to back the stud out, or am I missing some trick? Any suggestions, would be much appreciated.

    BTW, this is an excellent DIY post. Thanks for doing it.

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    09-13-2010 06:44 PM #77
    Haven't checked the thread in a while - glad to see it's still useful!
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    01-13-2011 08:49 AM #78
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeWire View Post
    Haven't checked the thread in a while - glad to see it's still useful!
    Thanks Mike. Im getting ready to do this now. What is the best way you found to clean the metal on the head? I was thinking fine grit paper or small wire brush.

    Thanks
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    01-13-2011 11:52 AM #79
    I'm assuming you mean what you would clean the gasket area with? I would use some carb cleaner on a rag to remove any dirt etc. It should be pretty clean already, but you always want to make sure the mating surface is really clean.

    To clean up the oozing and crusty G12, I use a 50/50 mix of simple green and water, after everything is repaired and leak free. I actually use this on my entire motor and engine bay.

    Good luck!
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    01-13-2011 12:00 PM #80
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeWire View Post
    I'm assuming you mean what you would clean the gasket area with? I would use some carb cleaner on a rag to remove any dirt etc. It should be pretty clean already, but you always want to make sure the mating surface is really clean.

    To clean up the oozing and crusty G12, I use a 50/50 mix of simple green and water, after everything is repaired and leak free. I actually use this on my entire motor and engine bay.

    Good luck!
    I pulled the flange off and there is crust around the hole in the block. The gasket and flange going back on is new, so I assume I don't need to clean that. I will try the ol' simple green. Thanks!

    Mark

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    01-16-2011 01:31 PM #81
    thanks a lot, took me about hour and half, make sure u get all hoses and air box out of the way makes it much easier.

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    02-14-2011 05:45 PM #82
    i tryed autozone and they dont have it and dont even know what im talking about. is there some where i can order it? or is there a different name for it? alls i know is people at auto zone are ****ing retared and i dont know how they got jobs there

  13. 02-14-2011 06:06 PM #83
    Quote Originally Posted by ledgebutta View Post
    i tryed autozone and they dont have it and dont even know what im talking about. is there some where i can order it? or is there a different name for it? alls i know is people at auto zone are ****ing retared and i dont know how they got jobs there
    The flange?

    If you want to order online. GermanAutoParts.com , ECSTuning.com, Or my personal favorite due to the cheaper prices, brand of part disclosure and free shipping on orders over $50 .. AutoHausAZ.com.

    If you want to pick it up locally, I would go to a local VAG shop that also sells parts. Or the VW dealer.

    My local NAPA carries Pentosin G12. They could also most likely order G12+ or G12++ if you prefer those. I just recently did a complete coolant system overhaul this last week and went with G12++.


    Also..

    This may or may not have been mentioned, but i wouldnt put any type of gasket sealant in my coolant system.
    Volkswagens love REAL Volkswagen parts.

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    02-15-2011 12:16 AM #84
    Quote Originally Posted by ledgebutta View Post
    i tryed autozone and they dont have it and dont even know what im talking about. is there some where i can order it? or is there a different name for it? alls i know is people at auto zone are ****ing retared and i dont know how they got jobs there
    It's all in the DIY...I even gave you the part #'s from ECS (unfortunately I just noticed they have updated their part #'s, so I will update appropriately). No local FLAPS will be able to help you with either the flange or G12, so Kaie is correct...order online, or visit your dealer. And, yes, please buy the OEM - the OEM part is much heavier duty than the aftermarket design. I ended up changing it a second time when I changed the clutch on this car.

    ECS - Meyle coolant flange

    ECS - 1 gallon of Pentosin G12


    Quote Originally Posted by Kaie View Post

    Also..

    This may or may not have been mentioned, but i wouldnt put any type of gasket sealant in my coolant system.
    It has been mentioned, and I stated it as optional in step #9. Do what you want, but I prefer to take out a little insurance - the aluminum head is very porous and the cast is rough, plus the aluminum and plastic flange will expand and contract at different rates and over time I feel that a small amount of high temp sealant on the rubber seal would not be out of line for this type of repair.

    To be exact and point out the flaw in your statement - no sealant is going IN the cooling system, just on the rubber seal that will contact the head material.

    I have heard statements like this before, and I would like to hear some concrete facts as to why any type of sealant would be "bad". If you make a contradictory statement, be prepared to back it up. I'm not talking opinion, but FACT.

    I also would like to state that this car is still running, coolant flange leak free.
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  15. 03-03-2011 10:19 PM #85
    I am fixing to fill mine up with quickcrete and sink it.

  16. 06-13-2011 10:58 AM #86
    Hi hope someone can help with mine 2001 jetta 1.8 turbo i change the coolant flange but when i took out the screws for it they were like a four point head not a flange head bolt how do you get them tight so it does not leak . I try the way i took them out use a four point screw driver but leak bad. i did go get 10 mm flange head bolts so i can use a torque i think 5 to 7 lbs. thanks if someone can help

  17. 08-22-2011 10:50 PM #87
    So do any of you know the difference between these two parts? The part that I took off of my car (Audi TT quattro 2000) is 1j0 919 506 E, which was under the battery, but I can't find anywhere online that has that item number...the only one I keep on running into is the one ending in K. Are they the same thing? Please help...I am knew at diy on my car, but determined, since I don't want to get robbed my the dealer.
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    08-22-2011 11:08 PM #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Vmjacinto-sanchez View Post
    So do any of you know the difference between these two parts? The part that I took off of my car (Audi TT quattro 2000) is 1j0 919 506 E, which was under the battery, but I can't find anywhere online that has that item number...the only one I keep on running into is the one ending in K. Are they the same thing? Please help...I am knew at diy on my car, but determined, since I don't want to get robbed my the dealer.
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    Not related in the slightest to the thread content or DIY, but I'll bite

    Looks like a model year split - E is a 10 pin module and K is a 14 pin module, so they are different. Get the E version, ECS sells it:

    http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/1j0_919_506_E/
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  19. 09-30-2011 11:42 PM #89
    i bought my flange from german auto parts, is this an OEM part? I did not see any manufactures stamp of any kind on it.

    Should I send it back and buy from the VW dealer?

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    10-01-2011 03:03 AM #90
    Quote Originally Posted by my11g View Post
    i bought my flange from german auto parts, is this an OEM part? I did not see any manufactures stamp of any kind on it.

    Should I send it back and buy from the VW dealer?
    GAP usually sells OEM parts, but if you can't verify that it's and OEM replacement, then send it back and get the OEM.
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  21. 10-01-2011 11:21 AM #91
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeWire View Post
    GAP usually sells OEM parts, but if you can't verify that it's and OEM replacement, then send it back and get the OEM.
    So how do I verify that? Is it just by VW logo stamped on the part or is there some other difference as well.

  22. 10-18-2011 01:14 PM #92
    Hey,

    My first time changing this infamous flange. The directions seem helpful but I can't see the pictures anymore and I think they would really make this job easier. I'm a newbe at this mechanic stuff

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    10-18-2011 01:33 PM #93
    Quote Originally Posted by my11g View Post
    So how do I verify that? Is it just by VW logo stamped on the part or is there some other difference as well.
    If you can't verify the part, then it's more than likely not OEM. It should have some stamping and/or come in the OEM box.

    Quote Originally Posted by ianeLay View Post
    Hey,

    My first time changing this infamous flange. The directions seem helpful but I can't see the pictures anymore and I think they would really make this job easier. I'm a newbe at this mechanic stuff
    My primary DNS host is refreshing, so give it a bit and try again in about an hour.
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    10-18-2011 03:07 PM #94
    Pictures back up
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    10-24-2011 02:33 PM #95
    thanks for posting this diy.

    my 2.slow sprung a leak this morning.

    What is the part number (or link to ECS,) for the "small" o-ring and clip on the temp sensor?

    thanks again.
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    10-25-2011 10:47 AM #96
    Quote Originally Posted by endersm View Post
    thanks for posting this diy.

    my 2.slow sprung a leak this morning.

    What is the part number (or link to ECS,) for the "small" o-ring and clip on the temp sensor?

    thanks again.
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    Ok guys, I made the DIY but I can't hold your hand. Go to ECS and look it up. FYI, the o-ring usually comes with the sensor.

    What I found:

    Clip - http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...Sensor/ES3055/

    Sensor O-ring - http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...nges/ES264172/
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    10-26-2011 03:39 PM #97
    Thanks for the reply - didn't mean to come off like a q q whiny baby, was just thrown off by ECS saying "...O-Ring that is on most clip-in cooling sensors/senders..." rather than "this totally fits the temp sender in your Mk4".

    at any rate, the part is on the way and I appreciate your confirmation of the correct part number!



    Quote Originally Posted by MikeWire View Post
    Ok guys, I made the DIY but I can't hold your hand. Go to ECS and look it up. FYI, the o-ring usually comes with the sensor.

    What I found:

    Clip - http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...Sensor/ES3055/

    Sensor O-ring - http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...nges/ES264172/

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    10-27-2011 09:22 AM #98
    No problem, I wasn't trying to be a dick, although I think I did a pretty good job at it

    That sensor clip and o-ring fits a lot of different models and gens of VW and Audi and you should be good with it. ECS could be a little more specific on what part fits, for sure.

    Glad the DIY helped, and good luck with your work
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    12-02-2011 02:32 AM #99
    Did this repair yesterday after a month plus of leaking and topping off with water. Since the temp dropped to 8* tonight glad I got all that water out the radiator and everything locked back up.

    My only suggestion and maybe it was just my bad luck, but I would say spend the extra $.69 and pick up a new coolant sensor clip. Mine snapped as I put it back on.

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    12-26-2011 10:31 PM #100
    Ordering the part now, very excited to get rid of this leak that has caused me so much grief!
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    01-15-2012 07:35 PM #101
    Thanks for the great DIY!

    I just did it and taking my time it took me about an hour.

  32. 03-05-2012 12:29 AM #102
    Thanks so much for this DIY! I've been systematically replacing hoses since one burst, and I think I might have inadvertently cracked the seal on the flange when I was replacing the top heater hose while trying to wrestle it off the flange.

    Your instructions were really clear and easy to follow. I don't do a ton of my own work, but was able to knock this one out no problem.

    I wasn't able to walk away after 2 hours...I spent the bulk of the day doing it, but I was also doing a lot of clean up along the way, and I swapped out a few more hoses while I was there (bottom heater, and the pair of oil cooler hoses).

    Thanks again for the great DIY!

  33. 05-06-2012 08:11 PM #103
    Did this myself a little over a week ago. It's the most involved DIY I have done so far. I typically stick with brake and oil changes with no problem. I made sure to put twist ties on hoses that I disconnected as a visual reminder. I have pictures of the crack that was causing the leak and where I finished off the smaller hose inlet on the bottom of the flange. Whole thing was looking fragile.

    No more adding distilled water every 3 or so days!

    Thanks for the informative thread!

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    05-30-2012 02:19 PM #104
    Special thanks to MikeWire and all of the contributors for helping me do this repair yesterday. It's obviously an infamous problem, and many more will need help to the future. I did a Youtube video of this repair, for the benefit of those to come. In the video description I included a link back to this thread as well.

    http://youtu.be/3ShCTe8YzMI

  35. 05-30-2012 03:58 PM #105
    just wrapped this up.. only issue is I CANNOT get the plastic clip back in on the flange to hold the sensor in? everything is back on the car and set to go but this is a no go... Ideas?

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