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    Thread: Long term reliability?

    1. Geriatric Member absoluteczech's Avatar
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      12-14-2006 12:20 PM #1
      Just curious as to how may GTI, Rabbit, and Jetta 2.5 owners out there have more then 40,000+ miles on their cars and, if so what issues have you had, im talking like mechanical issues not rattles

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      12-14-2006 12:35 PM #2
      i was wondering this too. when I buy my MKV with DSG next year I plan to keep it for 10 years. no keeping a VW for that long is thas a good plan? or should I look at something else for long term reliability? yes Im fully expecting some standard maintance issues thats common with all cars. But will the MKV have more than others?

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      12-14-2006 12:51 PM #3
      hehe i aint planning on keep this 1 for that long, but i was wanna see if i should get rid of it at 50k or keep it maybe a bit longer like till almost 100

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      12-14-2006 01:10 PM #4
      Based on many years, many VWs, and having VWs for over 100,000 miles, how long the VW lasts depends on how you treat it. If yoy highly modify the powertrain, drive the bejeesus out of your VW, and give it poor/minimal/no maintence you can expect it to wear out and break down sooner.
      (putting on fire retardent suit) The current MKV series of VWs have ample perfomance right from the factory. Modifiying for performance has a price which comes in the form of early mechanical failure with no VW's manufacturer's warranty to bail you out financially.
      To keep your VW for 10 years, make no mechanical changes that would invalidate the warranty, drive sensibly, and follow factory recommended maintenance. Your VW will go at least 100,000 miles and probably more.
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      12-14-2006 01:11 PM #5
      i got a rabbit 2.5 so im safe on the performance side that engine should last forever esp since they say its detuned.

    6. 12-14-2006 01:44 PM #6
      jeremy clarkson of top gear commented that the mkv build quality is worse than the mkiv.

    7. 12-14-2006 01:48 PM #7
      Quote, originally posted by bani »
      jeremy clarkson of top gear commented that the mkv build quality is worse than the mkiv.

      Clarkson says a lot of things.

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      12-14-2006 01:49 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by IchBinDarren »

      Clarkson says a lot of things.

      x2


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      12-14-2006 02:54 PM #9
      Quote, originally posted by SilverArrow GLI »
      Based on many years, many VWs, and having VWs for over 100,000 miles, how long the VW lasts depends on how you treat it. If yoy highly modify the powertrain, drive the bejeesus out of your VW, and give it poor/minimal/no maintence you can expect it to wear out and break down sooner.
      (putting on fire retardent suit) The current MKV series of VWs have ample perfomance right from the factory. Modifiying for performance has a price which comes in the form of early mechanical failure with no VW's manufacturer's warranty to bail you out financially.
      To keep your VW for 10 years, make no mechanical changes that would invalidate the warranty, drive sensibly, and follow factory recommended maintenance. Your VW will go at least 100,000 miles and probably more.

      X2

      (putting on flame retardant suit) Too true!


    10. 12-14-2006 06:12 PM #10
      I had a 94 Golf III that went 168K and never even started to burn oil. I bought it used in 97 and drove it until august of this year. Never a problem. I got 1K$ in trade for it in on the Rabbit.

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      12-14-2006 07:08 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by bani »
      jeremy clarkson of top gear commented that the mkv build quality is worse than the mkiv.

      And what exactly qualifies "Jeremy" to make such an assinine statement?

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    12. 12-14-2006 07:11 PM #12
      its not the engine thats gonna go, its everything around it

    13. 12-14-2006 07:20 PM #13
      Quote, originally posted by bani »
      jeremy clarkson of top gear commented that the mkv build quality is worse than the mkiv.

      You crack me up. NOT




      Modified by Mike Gordon at 4:21 PM 12-14-2006


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      12-15-2006 02:12 AM #14
      Quote, originally posted by SilverArrow GLI »
      Based on many years, many VWs, and having VWs for over 100,000 miles, how long the VW lasts depends on how you treat it. If yoy highly modify the powertrain, drive the bejeesus out of your VW, and give it poor/minimal/no maintence you can expect it to wear out and break down sooner.
      (putting on fire retardent suit) The current MKV series of VWs have ample perfomance right from the factory. Modifiying for performance has a price which comes in the form of early mechanical failure with no VW's manufacturer's warranty to bail you out financially.
      To keep your VW for 10 years, make no mechanical changes that would invalidate the warranty, drive sensibly, and follow factory recommended maintenance. Your VW will go at least 100,000 miles and probably more.


      well the only things I was going to do to the car were put in an aftermarket intercooler and possibly the APR chip upgrade. I do drive my cars a little on the hard side, But I never dog on them. I am very meticulous when it comes to car maintance. I never miss oil changes, tune-ups, and other things etc..

      My concern is that the Mkv may suffer the same fate as my beloved Starion, that it will turn into a money pit.


    15. 12-15-2006 03:32 AM #15
      Quote, originally posted by bani »
      jeremy clarkson of top gear commented that the mkv build quality is worse than the mkiv.

      And you believe him


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      12-15-2006 04:31 AM #16
      Quote, originally posted by ycchan »
      And you believe him

      Well, Jeremy Clarkson is perfectly fine --- bani is another thing.

      Anyway, my two pre-MkV VWs have a combined 250,000 miles, and will likely see a combined 400,000 unless I get rid of of one of them. Both have had average to very good reliability, improving with miles and time (absolutely contrary to my prior two Subarus).

      My point: one of the strengths of VWs is their long-term reliability and very low cost of ownership, after the warranty expires.

      YMMV. Some auto trans models from a few years ago excluded. Only applies to owners who like their cars. Narrowly-minded Mazda enthusiasts excluded. Availability of a reasonable or good (VW or independent) service place required (difficult).

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      12-15-2006 04:36 AM #17
      Quote, originally posted by bani »
      jeremy clarkson of top gear commented that the mkv build quality is worse than the mkiv.

      Mr. Clarkson can piss up a rope.

      I've had both, and I have to say I don't see a decrease in build quality between my 09.01-built MkIV Jetta and my 08.05-built MkV Jetta.

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      12-15-2006 05:00 AM #18
      24,000km thus far on my 2.5 with zero issues.


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      12-15-2006 05:08 AM #19
      Had a 2001 GTI VR6 with 130K and it ran like a new car. Just how you take care of the maintenance. It's buit to last.

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      12-15-2006 05:13 AM #20
      You're going to have a hard time finding people with that many miles logged into their cars.

      Maybe only one or two.

      I've had my MkV for almost 14K miles with zero issues at all, and the quality overall is better than my MkIV; fit and finish is superior. I have experienced absolutely no rattles whereas there were always annoyances with the MkIV.


    21. 12-18-2006 11:28 PM #21
      Quote, originally posted by BRM10984 »
      Mr. Clarkson can piss up a rope.

      including when he says the gti is a great car? gotcha. clarkson's positive gti review is summarily dismissed.


    22. 12-18-2006 11:30 PM #22
      Quote, originally posted by IchBinDarren »
      Clarkson says a lot of things.

      not just him though. many of the euro reviewers commented the mkv build quality is not up to par with the mkiv.

      could all just be a grand conspiracy by all the euros to make vw look bad though.


    23. 12-18-2006 11:46 PM #23
      I have 76,000 km on my Mk5 TDI, and it is chipped, and I frequently tow a trailer with it.

      I have had three things gone wrong.

      The inside cover for the sunroof rattled. Dealer replaced it but the new one made the same noise. I fixed it by stuffing a 0.5mm dia piece of wire along/above the rear edge of the vent, tucked in between the plastic vent and the fabric of the rest of the cover (you can't see it, but it took up the gap, and stopped the noise).

      The fuel temperature sensor went bad a couple of weeks ago, tripping the MIL. Replaced under warranty. $18 part, and it's easy to replace. (If it happens again, no big deal.)

      And a taillamp bulb burned out yesterday.

      THAT'S IT.

      I don't get where the build qualty comments are coming from. This car is very tight and solid. I ain't concerned about piddly little stuff. I'm hoping the big stuff is good for half a million kilometers. I sold my last TDI, still running well (and it was chipped, and I towed the same trailer with it) at 462,000 km.


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      12-19-2006 12:29 AM #24
      ^ Now that is some impressive stuff.

      I can now be confident that my low-tech 2.5 is probably going to at least pace GoFaster's "higher tech" TDI.


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      12-19-2006 12:35 AM #25
      i thought the gti was european car of the year in 2005/2006?

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      12-19-2006 02:58 AM #26
      Quote, originally posted by bani »
      including when he says the gti is a great car? gotcha. clarkson's positive gti review is summarily dismissed.

      Sure?

      At the end of the day, he's just another opinion- perhaps a well-known one, but one nonetheless.

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