Source for new drain plug in 020 transmission

[limbeer]

Hi, am trying to locate a mail order source for a new drain plug (takes a 17mm allen wrench) for my Mk1 020 transmission. If anyone has a spare, or know where I could get one, please let me know? Thanks!

[Broke]

Quote, originally posted by limbeer »

Hi, am trying to locate a mail order source for a new drain plug (takes a 17mm allen wrench) for my Mk1 020 transmission. If anyone has a spare, or know where I could get one, please let me know? Thanks!

Singapore I see.... our engineer at work is from Singapore. I can think of one place that would have them (VW part number is 111.301.127.E), http://www.worldimpex.com/sear...01127

They're under $5 new, but I have a few used kicking around...I could send you a couple if you want. IM me your address, they'll fit in a flat rate global envelope.

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[animaniac]

i'm affraid that 17mm plug is of the new type tamperproof ones, vw stopped making the 17mm allenkey ones and upgraded them for some tamper proof plug ( so that you have to take it the dealer) which is either a 12, 13 or 14mm splined bit with a hole drilled in the middle so that it fits the plug, i was going to make a home made tool until i knew draper made the tool for a few quid..

vw dont sell the special vw tool, but a few manufacturers make them, draper make the tool.

part number HDPK1
1/2 SQUARE DRIVE DRAIN PLUG KEY FOR VW OR AUDI

i hope this helps.......

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Quote, originally posted by animaniac »

i'm affraid that 17mm plug is of the new type tamperproof ones, vw stopped making the 17mm allenkey ones and upgraded them for some tamper proof plug

Yeah, I see that they have changed the part but kept the old part number. I assumed the old part number would still get the old style plug, and the new plugs would have a new number, but it looks like the old plugs are gone then.
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Quote, originally posted by animaniac »

either a 12, 13 or 14mm splined bit with a hole drilled in the middle so that it fits the plug

I wasn't sure what size it is, I saw somewhere that said it was a 16mm XZN (12-point), but it wasn't a VW source that said that.

Quote, originally posted by animaniac »

vw dont sell the special vw tool, but a few manufacturers make them, draper make the tool.

VW sell it VW3357 is the "multi-point bit" used on the new drain plugs, runs about $30 or so for the VW tool.
VW don't make most of the VW tools, the tools are Matra, Kukko, or some other (usually German) Mfg. making the tools for them. I do have one VW tool out of the UK, but 99% of them are German made.
There are a couple other places that make the tool, Draper as you've shown, MetalNerd, and I'm sure a few others as well for the aftermarket buyers.

The original poster is in luck, as the plugs I was going to send are the old 17mm hex style. I didn't know I couldn't replace them with new 17mm hex plugs, but that's OK

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[animaniac]

I really should say my local dealer wont sell them, other than forcing non mechanical minded people to let the dealer service the car, i dont see any other reason why vw have made that daft plug.

But 99% of people dont check their engine oil, so i'm pretty damn sure if people cant pull a dipstick out, then i seriously dont think there going to lie on the floor and start undoing 17mm hex plugs on the gearbox!

No it just makes things harder for mechnicaly minded people like myself who give a s*** about what goes on inside the engine and transmission....

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Quote, originally posted by limbeer »

If anyone has a spare...

I'll send these 2 over. I had a bag of them that I had sandblasted clean, then zinc plated to protect from corrosion a few years back.
They're both plated in zinc, but the shiny one was hit with a wire brush after plating. The dull one will shine up if you want it to, just use a wire brush on it.

The portion of the plug that is exposed to the inside of the trans hasn't been sand blasted or plated, just the 2/3rds of the plug that sticks out of the trans has been re-finished.

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[tjsean0308]

Broke,

Thanks for your awesome website. If I ever need my trans built I will be turning to you.
You wouldn't happen to have found another source for those drain plugs would you? I have one that seems to have been put on with a impact wrench and it actually just cracked and split apart instead of loosening up. I know I can get it out just not without getting evil. Thanks.

[Broke]

Broke,

Thanks for your awesome website. If I ever need my trans built I will be turning to you.
You wouldn't happen to have found another source for those drain plugs would you? I have one that seems to have been put on with a impact wrench and it actually just cracked and split apart instead of loosening up. I know I can get it out just not without getting evil. Thanks.

Thanks for the kind words on the site, I appreciate it!
Yes, I have a good condition used plug if you need it.
I've had a plug so bad that I ended up drilling the center out of it, then hammering it on the side to collapse it in once the walls were thin enough.
Some do need hit with the chisel to drive them out, but most of them come out with the 17mm tool.
They are a real PITA when they split and fall apart flush with the casing, so you can't chisel on it to spin it out, so you might have a fight on your hands but once you get it out I have a used plug if you need it.

I just thought of this old thread a few days ago actually... that guy in Singapore that I sent those plugs to never said 'Thanks' or 'They arrived' or anything... I never heard from him again.

[tjsean0308]

well that's probably a good thing. he probably got them and is back on the road. You know if they never got there he would have hollered.

I was able to weld a 7/8 bolt head to what was left of the plug. Got it to loosen up so I think i'll be good to go. I had tried the chisel first but it was just pealing the plug apart like a sardine can. You would think it would be made of a little bit harder alloy. I know they want it soft as it threads into AL, but still it just pealed apart with not a lot of hammering.

Thank you Broke!
your a stand up guy.

[MacGruber]

Who knows maybe he needed the plug to manufacture without authorization.

Here is a source for VW# 012301127F from a Milwaukee located ebay seller:

mjphilips1 on ebay or http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-NEW-Trans...896974&vxp=mtr

[cuppie]

I'll throw this in, too:
Also works: BMW man trans plugs. They're also a 17mm hex head, instead of socket head. More to grab, and no more breakage of the plug!
Part# 27-11-1-226-798
MSRP: $5.24

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I'll throw this in, too:
Also works: BMW man trans plugs. They're also a 17mm hex head, instead of socket head. More to grab, and no more breakage of the plug!
Part# 27-11-1-226-798
MSRP: $5.24

THANK YOU!
I kept reminding myself to ask you again about those plugs, didn't you mention something about them also having a magnetic version?
I've not forgotten about your trans either, I'm working on getting it sorted out

[cuppie]

No...
You had asked if there was a magnet in them; I said "no, there isn't." AFAIK, there isn't a 'with magnet' version of that plug.
Now, I will say this:
The factory plugs I pulled out of Wilda's trans? Neither had a magnet on it....

About my box:
no worries - yet.
Hell, it's late August now. Driving season for Wilda is rapidly coming to a close (sniffle!)
So long as I have a rebuilt box before spring.....

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No...
You had asked if there was a magnet in them; I said "no, there isn't." AFAIK, there isn't a 'with magnet' version of that plug.

Wishful thinking on my part

Now, I will say this:
The factory plugs I pulled out of Wilda's trans? Neither had a magnet on it....

Yeah, VW didn't use them if the trans had an internal magnet. The 020 syncro angle drive I rebuilt had one, but there was no internal magnet inside that angle drive housing.