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    11-19-2012 12:47 PM #1787
    So I know that I have got the car wired correctly. This next bit may be off the subject of this thread a bit..

    The cam and flywheel marks just were just barely off again.
    So I slipped the belt off, turned the crank clockwise and lined it all up again. Put the belt back on and hand cranked it few rotations to make sure the marks lined up and they did.. tried to start it. Same. So I checked my marks and sure enough, they are off again. I think it's slipping on the crank somehow.

    I am being told it could be a problem with the woodruff keys or keyways. Possible that they sheared off.

    Anybody else have any experience here?
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    11-19-2012 12:53 PM #1788
    Quote Originally Posted by President Lincoln View Post
    So I know that I have got the car wired correctly. This next bit may be off the subject of this thread a bit..

    The cam and flywheel marks just were just barely off again.
    So I slipped the belt off, turned the crank clockwise and lined it all up again. Put the belt back on and hand cranked it few rotations to make sure the marks lined up and they did.. tried to start it. Same. So I checked my marks and sure enough, they are off again. I think it's slipping on the crank somehow.

    I am being told it could be a problem with the woodruff keys or keyways. Possible that they sheared off.

    Anybody else have any experience here?
    Happens all the time.

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    11-19-2012 12:59 PM #1789
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    Happens all the time.
    Does the Bentley cover this? I guess I just need to take it apart? Drain the oil, remove the 19mm crank bolt.. what else am I missing? Thanks
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    11-19-2012 06:14 PM #1790
    what the hell are these? top 3 wire brown/green(ground)red/blk(switched 12V), and white/blue??? this is not on other ABA engine side harness that i have. second one is oval/flat plug goes up to the throttle body but is just a 2 wire(ground, and black yellow) i have no idea what its is. anyone know what they are before i cut them out

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    11-19-2012 06:46 PM #1791
    what year did the harness come out of? usually brown/green is AC related but not positive on those.

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    11-19-2012 06:51 PM #1792
    Quote Originally Posted by bonesaw View Post
    what year did the harness come out of? usually brown/green is AC related but not positive on those.
    someone pulled it off a car for me and their not sure. they think it was 98 or 99. brown green is also ground on engine side of harness. like i said i have a few CE2 ABAs around the yard(one we just put in my cousins 87 rabbit cabriolet;full CE2 swap) these cars do not have these two plugs in the pics. im almost positive they are not needed i just want to know what they are before i cut them and re tape harness. thanks for your time guys
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    11-19-2012 07:36 PM #1793
    Where exactly do they sit? The two pin could be breather heater element. The other one is not VSS or automatic TPS?

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    11-20-2012 07:10 AM #1794
    Just found out the oval/flat two wire is a PCV sensor. and the 3wire is possibly and automatic thing but not sure... so anyone who knows the three wire plug in my picture please chime in.
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    02-21-2013 06:05 PM #1795
    So i have a OBD1 motor and an OBD2 harness. Other than the throttle body what other parts will I have to switch/add on to the motor?

    This is all going in a 91 Golf.

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    02-21-2013 06:42 PM #1796
    intake manifold needs to be plugged where ISV was
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    03-03-2013 04:03 PM #1797
    Hey guys I'm trying to finish up a swap I'm doing for a friend and we are only having one issue, the fuel pump won't kick on with the ignition. If you remove the relay and jump the fuel pump it will kick on and I can start the car. Anyone run into this issue?

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    03-04-2013 07:57 AM #1798
    Quote Originally Posted by Denniswhat View Post
    Hey guys I'm trying to finish up a swap I'm doing for a friend and we are only having one issue, the fuel pump won't kick on with the ignition. If you remove the relay and jump the fuel pump it will kick on and I can start the car. Anyone run into this issue?
    http://www.a2resource.com/electrical/CE2.html
    Take a look at 30/30B this has been covered a few times on here(just a few pages ago i think)
    your very close,
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    03-04-2013 07:23 PM #1799
    Quote Originally Posted by JettaG60MK2Rider View Post
    http://www.a2resource.com/electrical/CE2.html
    Take a look at 30/30B this has been covered a few times on here(just a few pages ago i think)
    your very close,
    good luck
    Yes you need the Jumper wire, which is in there and plugged in. With that out the fuel pump will not kick on at all.

    However I do not have anything plugged into Z1. All the info on here says a single connecector plugs into it. I cannot find that wire in the harness. Where does that trace back to? the ECU?

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    03-05-2013 07:47 AM #1800
    believe its yellow with a blue trace from ECU. it should be there somewhere. thats ECU ground signal to F/Pump relay
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    03-05-2013 08:38 AM #1801
    Quote Originally Posted by JettaG60MK2Rider View Post
    believe its yellow with a blue trace from ECU. it should be there somewhere. thats ECU ground signal to F/Pump relay
    Can you confirm this? Or which pin on the ecu it traces back to? On a2resource it says its a red/blk or red/Yellow. It doesn't say where it traces back too.

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    03-05-2013 10:04 AM #1802
    Quote Originally Posted by Denniswhat View Post
    Can you confirm this? Or which pin on the ecu it traces back to? On a2resource it says its a red/blk or red/Yellow. It doesn't say where it traces back too.
    Z1 is obd2 only. It powers the injectors Etc. do you have anything on the engine harness not connected? Also is the correct ecu relay installed?

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    03-05-2013 10:47 AM #1803
    I do not have the single w1 pin connected yet. I think that's everything.

    If I take the relay out and jump pins 30 and 87 the fuel pump runs and the car starts and runs perfect. The fuel pump just won't come on with the key.

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    03-05-2013 10:49 AM #1804
    And there used to be a 32 relay in it. Bought a new 109 and an using that.

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    03-05-2013 11:05 AM #1805
    Quote Originally Posted by Denniswhat View Post
    I do not have the single w1 pin connected yet. I think that's everything.

    If I take the relay out and jump pins 30 and 87 the fuel pump runs and the car starts and runs perfect. The fuel pump just won't come on with the key.
    the ecu grounds out the F/P relay via yellow/blue wire. not sure which pin on ECU side. it goes back to the fues box and should be connected to your F/P relay. this is likely the issue. i cant be anything else crank sensor/maf/injector/ so on +12V power. everything works when u jump it... thus becoming the ECU when u bridge it.
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    03-05-2013 12:11 PM #1806
    Quote Originally Posted by JettaG60MK2Rider View Post
    the ecu grounds out the F/P relay via yellow/blue wire. not sure which pin on ECU side. it goes back to the fues box and should be connected to your F/P relay. this is likely the issue. i cant be anything else crank sensor/maf/injector/ so on +12V power. everything works when u jump it... thus becoming the ECU when u bridge it.
    I'm seeing PIN number six. I traced that wire to one of the white connectors in the fuse box and its plugged in.

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    03-05-2013 12:43 PM #1807
    Quote Originally Posted by Denniswhat View Post
    I'm seeing PIN number six. I traced that wire to one of the white connectors in the fuse box and its plugged in.
    plugged into the correct spot? are you receiving a ground signal from this ecu at this pin? you should see a ground signal as soon as the ECU sees the crank spinning via trigger wheel.
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    03-06-2013 09:47 AM #1808
    Quote Originally Posted by JettaG60MK2Rider View Post
    plugged into the correct spot? are you receiving a ground signal from this ecu at this pin? you should see a ground signal as soon as the ECU sees the crank spinning via trigger wheel.
    Yes it was plugged into the correct spot. It's in one if the white connectors.

    I figured out the problem and now the car starts and runs with the key :thumb up: A single blue wire near the battery was not connected to the positive terminal. I'm not sure what that wire is for but hooked that up and fuel pump came on with the key.

    Thanks for the help

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