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    Thread: THE OFFICIAL X-FLOW SWAP POST!!!!!!

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      10-15-2008 01:58 PM #1201
      if you get an obd1 aba the headlight and engine harness are seperate. just use the ABA engine harness.

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      10-15-2008 02:06 PM #1202
      Quote, originally posted by bonesaw »
      if you get an obd1 aba the headlight and engine harness are seperate. just use the ABA engine harness.

      DAMN IT. I have an OBD2 swap already.
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      10-15-2008 02:51 PM #1203
      use it an extend a few wires or split it into two harnesses.

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      10-22-2008 04:40 PM #1204
      Quote, originally posted by urogolf »
      just for ****s & giggles set the bottm end to TDC (or 6 before) and check the distributor.. happened to me where i set it all correctly and when it went to fire the dizzy was off 180 degrees... i have no idea on how it could happen but it did... twice.. i reset the distributor and it fired right up
      hasnt happened since then but it did happen

      Thanks for the suggestion. I never touched the engine as far as timing goes. Basically it was running really strong when pulled from the mk2, and placed into the mk1 a few weeks later. All i had to do was put the mk1 mounts on it and convert the shift linkage.

      Anyone think a bad ignition switch could cause intermittent nonstarting?
      How about a bad ecu? It does the throttle body adaptation and stuff so i dont think so.

      The PO thinks it could be a voltage drop somwhere, or a bad ground? when I get a chance to check I will, but the days are running out and i have no time or garage

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      10-27-2008 10:25 AM #1205
      does anyone know how to delete the power steering pump?

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      10-27-2008 12:27 PM #1206
      take out the pump. loop lines. or switch to manual rack. need to source knuckle and boot.

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      10-28-2008 01:56 AM #1207
      ya ive got a manual rack in now i was just lookin for the least cost effective way to retain the manual rack what do you think is the easiest and cheapest?

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      10-31-2008 08:57 PM #1208
      when i swapped over to a manual rack i just swapped the whole k frame.
      also, jsut a little advice to the X-flow swappers, mine wasnt running good at all. went through hell trying to figure out what was wrong. it ended up being my MAF sensor wires, they got stripped bair from rubbing on the air cleaner, which made them short out and kill my car...
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      11-04-2008 01:46 PM #1209
      I know it is probably in here somewhere but, how hard is it to swap in the tranny allong with the aba.

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      11-04-2008 01:53 PM #1210
      i assume you mean a mk3 tranny... just need the right clutch/axles AFAIK

    11. 11-16-2008 04:06 AM #1211
      Hi all, great thread. I've just wired up OBD2 ABA Motronic onto my ABF 16vT, which was previously running Euro ABF Digifant 3 OBD2 in NA form.
      First issue was the lack of cranking, which I fixed by adding a 25A fuse to the 'red/black & red' connector. I still have no fuel pump priming with the ignition on, though.
      I've check ground at T68 pin1, switched 12v at pin23 and constant 12v at 54 and all that is fine.
      Strangely, I'm getting just 6v of power at my fuel pumps with the ignition on and no priming I don't have my t/b, MAF or 02 sensors connected yet, though - could this be causing the problem (?).
      What should I check and would a few pics of fuse box help anyone?
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      11-16-2008 02:10 PM #1212
      Quote, originally posted by MattP »
      Thanks for the suggestion. I never touched the engine as far as timing goes. Basically it was running really strong when pulled from the mk2, and placed into the mk1 a few weeks later. All i had to do was put the mk1 mounts on it and convert the shift linkage.

      Anyone think a bad ignition switch could cause intermittent nonstarting?
      How about a bad ecu? It does the throttle body adaptation and stuff so i dont think so.

      The PO thinks it could be a voltage drop somwhere, or a bad ground? when I get a chance to check I will, but the days are running out and i have no time or garage

      Well, be sure to check your grounds
      I knew it was somthing stupid

    13. 11-17-2008 11:25 PM #1213
      I just finished getting a OBD1 X-flow into my 91 jetta. I have a couple questions though. There is a port on top of the throttle body for a hose. Does this run to the charcoal canister? I had it hooked up that way but it ran like crap. I plugged the hole and it ran good. Where is the line from the charcoal canister supposed to go?
      Also, the ECU wire that needs to go to the fuse box, does it need constant power or just ignition on power?
      Thanks.

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      11-18-2008 09:29 AM #1214
      what ECU wire? the red/yellow with red connector that goes to pin 54? if so then constant

    15. 11-18-2008 10:35 AM #1215
      Quote, originally posted by bonesaw »
      what ECU wire? the red/yellow with red connector that goes to pin 54? if so then constant

      That's the one. Thanks. Anyone know about the small port on the throttle body?

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      11-18-2008 10:45 AM #1216
      evap valve.

    17. 11-18-2008 11:18 AM #1217
      Thanks again.

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      12-01-2008 10:45 AM #1218
      "I am out of ideas on my swap...
      Mk1 Jetta, OBD2 ABA, full CE2 conversion.
      I had the car running well enough to drive it up the street a bunch of times. Then parked it to plug in the VSS and e2>d8 jumper to power the cluster. The next morning on startup the car wouldn't start, just backfired real loud a few times and that was it. Pulled the plugs to find them really fouled out, and one even had the ceramic piece missing. (I'm hoping it shot out the exhaust). I have the front o2 sensor plugged in and in the exhaust stream, and the rear one is plugged in but resting in the raintray because my downpipe does not have a bung for it yet.
      Currently the car will turn over, has fuel, and weak spark. It sounds as if it wants to start, but does not. Timing should be dead on, but retarted 3 degrees on the adjustable cam gear for the 276 cam. I bought this swap from a guy using it in his mk2, and he is assisting with getting it going in my jetta, he is stumped as well.
      Replaced cap and rotor, new spark plugs gapped to bentley specs. have 5 coils that I have been swapping about. Everything required to start and run the car is plugged into the ce2 fuse box.
      I'm currently trying to track down an obd port so I can scan the ecu.
      Any suggestions, help would be greatly appreciated. "
      Still having that problem? I know its been a month but in case you are, I had a strangely familiar problem back when i did this swap into my GTI 4 or 5 years ago. Turns out it was the crank sensor. Thats the one down in the block by the front mount bracket/starter. Like yours mine also backfired and fouled the plugs as well as having a very weak looking spark. I dont have my bentley handy but what you do is check the resistance at the crank sensor connector and it should be within it's specified range. I don't remember exactly what it was but it was only one ohm off or something like that. That made me believe it couldn't have been the problem so I passed it up a few times until I finally got the gumption to go and buy one from the junker. Fixed it right away. I accidently crushed the sensor when I was putting the engine in turns out. Hope that helps. Oh yeah, check your oil its probably full of fuel.


      Modified by truckosaurus at 7:50 AM 12-1-2008

    19. 12-13-2008 10:02 PM #1219
      thats crazy mate, i just found your post, about to check it. i am just trying to find out how to make my motronic 9a 2l 16v fully electronic. originally mk2 16v 1.8 kr. not played wi it for ten year, dont even know what obd stands for let alone if its standard kit or what, gonna check your follow on now!

    20. 12-13-2008 10:07 PM #1220
      definitely

    21. 12-13-2008 10:15 PM #1221
      mate, i just remembered that i aint got no tach either, i got bosch motronic 9a 2l 16v wired into a 1.8 16v kr kjet, if memory serves me correct, the purple wire i got taped up was for the tach, if i find out anythin i will post somethin somewhere, i dont know if i have to use the corrado digi? clocks or if i can fool the digi signal into ticklin my analogue mk2 golf counters

    22. 12-13-2008 10:18 PM #1222
      can sum1 clarify for the ignorant, what is x flow. it cant be dual point or multi point or even single point ignition, surely it refers to fuelling

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      12-14-2008 01:29 PM #1223
      xflow refers to crossflow. intake in the front, exhaust in the back.

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      12-18-2008 09:38 PM #1224
      Quote, originally posted by truckosaurus »
      Still having that problem? I know its been a month but in case you are, I had a strangely familiar problem back when i did this swap into my GTI 4 or 5 years ago. Turns out it was the crank sensor. Thats the one down in the block by the front mount bracket/starter. Like yours mine also backfired and fouled the plugs as well as having a very weak looking spark. I dont have my bentley handy but what you do is check the resistance at the crank sensor connector and it should be within it's specified range. I don't remember exactly what it was but it was only one ohm off or something like that. That made me believe it couldn't have been the problem so I passed it up a few times until I finally got the gumption to go and buy one from the junker. Fixed it right away. I accidently crushed the sensor when I was putting the engine in turns out. Hope that helps. Oh yeah, check your oil its probably full of fuel.

      Modified by truckosaurus at 7:50 AM 12-1-2008

      Funny thing... I did get the car running, and driving. The nonstart issue was incredibly stupid, like i had thought. Didnt ground the negative terminal to the body AND engine, just to the engine. All I did was run a jumper to a ground point on the body and she fires right up every time now.
      I actually moved 2 weeks ago and haven't had any time to work on the car. Now it is in my new garage and I'm working out the interior CE2 Conversion. It will get done eventually.

    25. 01-14-2009 11:40 PM #1225
      does anyone have a full wiring run down for a CE2 car, i have a 92 that im doing an ABA ob1 swap in and well wiring is not my strong point. i have a Bentley manual to so if anyone can help me out that would be great. i wanna have the car done by dust off at the end of april

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