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    08-24-2012 08:56 AM #1751
    Prime example of why it is a decent idea to keep the MK2 harness and comp and retrofit the fuel rail wiring and the distributor. Change wheel inside the distributor and you are good to go. Super simple
    Believe me...If it has wheels or an engine I can blow it up!

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    08-24-2012 10:32 AM #1752
    Quote Originally Posted by THE GUY ON THE INTERNET View Post
    Prime example of why it is a decent idea to keep the MK2 harness and comp and retrofit the fuel rail wiring and the distributor. Change wheel inside the distributor and you are good to go. Super simple
    Are you really advocating running an ABA on Digifant just because I have a loose wire? Motronic offers better throttle response, drivability, responsiveness to upgrades, diagnostic capabilities, and emissions. What are the benefits of Digifant compared to Motronic beside the fact that it's already in the car?

    Of course the method you suggest is feasible, but you're leaving a lot on the table for very little savings of effort.
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    I think Scirocco owners are just a little dense in the head...
    I, uhh... well, ok.

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    08-24-2012 12:19 PM #1753
    Nah man it was a slight joke. I am a fan of it but I would say if you have the ability then just do the swap. MK2 are not racecars so for me it makes more sense to run Digi. I dont suggest you stay with Digi I think you have everything covered.
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    08-25-2012 09:21 AM #1754
    Everyone has the ability to do any swap. This is hands down the most stright forward swap I've done. Asking what three wires are isn't a big enough deal to keep digi. If i had any faith in that wiring harness, ecu, or capability of that system I wouldnt have done a swap at all.

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    09-12-2012 06:33 PM #1755
    got my tach working finally all i have left is my cts. does anyone have any idea how to do this?

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    09-13-2012 08:39 AM #1756
    Quote Originally Posted by iamdurkee View Post
    got my tach working finally all i have left is my cts. does anyone have any idea how to do this?


    LOL IF you left it Digi it wouldbe running rite now!
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    09-20-2012 12:25 PM #1757
    Everything in my car works 100% the car is now more powerful efficient and dependable. Unlike digi.
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    09-20-2012 12:27 PM #1758
    By the way where in NH? i used to live in Windham

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    10-03-2012 05:15 PM #1759
    How would i run a3 ac on a ce2 car?

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    10-23-2012 08:50 PM #1760
    I need some help please. I will post permenant good pics in exchange.

    OBD2 aba into ce2 91 Jetta

    I need to know what to splice or connect in this pic. 30/30b to Y or something right?


    Then I have already fused this to get it to crank, so good there, right?


    Also, what is this and do I need it?




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    10-23-2012 09:03 PM #1761
    connect the jumper from 30-30B

    Connect single blue to W1

    Brown connector is OBD port

    That relay is for SAI. Valve is for Recirc flap or AC.

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    10-23-2012 09:18 PM #1762
    Quote Originally Posted by bonesaw View Post
    connect the jumper from 30-30B
    So the way my wires are now I just somehow connect 30 and 30b like this?
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    10-23-2012 09:21 PM #1763
    Quote Originally Posted by dOWa242 View Post
    So the way my wires are now I just somehow connect 30 and 30b like this?
    Yes just move that jumper to that empty position.

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    10-23-2012 09:34 PM #1764
    Quote Originally Posted by bonesaw View Post
    Yes just move that jumper to that empty position.
    so can I just move it over or do I need to bridge them together, power from Y to both?

    Also,
    Quote Originally Posted by bonesaw View Post

    Connect single blue to W1
    This single blue


    Thank you
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    10-23-2012 09:43 PM #1765
    You want the jumper going from 30 to 30b on the fuse panel. It has nothing to do with Y.

    Yes that gets connected to w1

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    10-23-2012 09:52 PM #1766
    Quote Originally Posted by bonesaw View Post
    You want the jumper going from 30 to 30b on the fuse panel. It has nothing to do with Y.
    So I can un-plug the wire from Y3 and re-connect it to 30. Do I just leave Y3 open afterwards?
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    10-23-2012 09:58 PM #1767
    Yes yes yes. How many different ways would you like me to tell you?

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    10-23-2012 10:05 PM #1768
    Quote Originally Posted by bonesaw View Post
    Yes yes yes. How many different ways would you like me to tell you?
    Sorry, I have went thru so many threads and just confused myself even more. Trying to distinguish the differences between obd1 wiring and obd2 into ce2. I really apreciate the help. I was going to IM you for help but saw you online.

    I might have more Q's tomorrow.
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    10-25-2012 01:46 PM #1769
    Is there a good thread for OBD2 to US wired mk2 golfs anywhere??

    I need to get Fuel. Everything else is working great.

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    10-28-2012 07:27 PM #1770
    Quote Originally Posted by bonesaw View Post
    Yes yes yes. How many different ways would you like me to tell you?
    Ok, so I got all those moved and this is what it looks like now.




    Here is a vid of it trying to start. You can see the fire out the exhaust.


    Any ideas?
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    10-28-2012 07:45 PM #1771
    Maf may be in backwards

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    10-30-2012 09:06 PM #1772
    ****. So... what exactly does the D8 to E2 jump do? Do I need that to make it actually run?

    Also, I have verified switched ign power to ECU pin 23 but the constant power to pin 54 is hiding from me.
    Pin 54 on the ECU side is a solid red wire.. but I cannot find it on the fuse box side. Does it change to red/blue maybe?

    Can you tell me where to locate pin 54 on the fuse box side and where to connect it to constant power?
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    10-30-2012 09:25 PM #1773
    Quote Originally Posted by President Lincoln View Post
    ****. So... what exactly does the D8 to E2 jump do? Do I need that to make it actually run?

    Also, I have verified switched ign power to ECU pin 23 but the constant power to pin 54 is hiding from me.
    Pin 54 on the ECU side is a solid red wire.. but I cannot find it on the fuse box side. Does it change to red/blue maybe?

    Can you tell me where to locate pin 54 on the fuse box side and where to connect it to constant power?
    D8-E2 is for your gauge cluster. Solid red out of pin 54 would should be solid red in the cabin but don't quote me on that.

    Here is your fuse box diagram: http://www.a2resource.com/electrical/CE2.html
    Here is your ECU Pin-Out: http://www.a2resource.com/electrical...nicvr6aba.html

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    10-30-2012 09:27 PM #1774
    Single red/yellow with red connector on obd1. On obd 2 may be in G connectors.

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    10-31-2012 07:32 PM #1775
    Well I got constant power to pin 54 and switched power to pin 23 and the ground on pin 1 etc..

    Sounds the same.

    Missed the bid on a good Bentley on Ebay Anybody got a good DIY for timing? It was checked multiple times but that is all I can think of.

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    cyl 1 at TDC, cam sprocket(dot) at O.T on plastic timing cover near valve cover. distributor rotor pointed to cyl 1 which is marked on the dizzy with a fine line notched into the aluminum housing. use cyl1 on cap as a reference point and look for the mark on the dizzy. you will need someone to watch the rotor and maybe even hold it for you as u slide the timing belt on to ensure none of these settings move. if you follow this exactly, your motor will be timed mechanically, and distributor timing set to 0D BTDC. good luck
    P.S check your current set up against what i just said before your rip it apart again.
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    11-04-2012 10:28 PM #1778
    so ive got everything hooked up but I dont have 30 bridged to 30b. When I turn the key on my throttle body whines for about 10 secs and my fuel pump isnt kicking on at all

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    11-05-2012 01:58 PM #1779
    Motronic does not prime the fuel pump.

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    11-07-2012 09:50 PM #1780
    haha never mind
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    11-07-2012 09:51 PM #1781
    haha nevermind
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    11-09-2012 01:21 PM #1782
    why does everyone say to not swap a obd2 into a mk2? besides the forged rods and oil squirters

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    11-09-2012 01:30 PM #1783
    Quote Originally Posted by cll2993 View Post
    why does everyone say to not swap a obd2 into a mk2? besides the forged rods and oil squirters
    Well the wiring is slighly different.
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    11-09-2012 01:54 PM #1784
    Quote Originally Posted by cll2993 View Post
    why does everyone say to not swap a obd2 into a mk2? besides the forged rods and oil squirters
    Everyone doesn't say that. Go for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post
    I think Scirocco owners are just a little dense in the head...
    I, uhh... well, ok.

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    11-09-2012 02:18 PM #1785
    because people believe you HAVE to have oil squirters and forged cranks. It is absolutely not necessary. It is prob better to have OBD2 as the motor is newer and has less mileage. Wiring is so similar it is a mute point.

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