Current News on the "New" Scirocco (Feb.06.2007)

[jamie@vwvortex]

A new Scirocco is going to be built and sold in Europe and a few other markets in 2008 (barring any delays due to some design changes to the front end that Walter DeSilva is doing right now). The basic car will look very similar to the IROC Concept and utilize Golf/Eos components on a new body-on-white chassis unique to the car. It will also be built in Portugal alongside the Eos.

There are currently *no* plans to offer this *new* Scirocco in the U.S. market. That *might* change with Winterkorn coming on board at VWAG, but I wouldn't hold my breath at this point.

We have added this forum to facilitate any discussion on the new model.

- jamie

[TheTimob]

I say it's only a Scirocco when It comes from Karmann Coachworks in Osnabrück, Germany. That's where the Ghia was built, where the Roccos, Cabriolets, Corrados, Jetta Wagons were built.

[MK1roccin77]

Is it actually going to be called a Scirocco? Or are they really going with Iroc?

[red16vman]

Iroc, as inappropriate sounding a name as it is, is almost better than scirocco to keep the confusion between the old ones and the new one. c'mon, it's not the same car at all.

[Rays-Rocco]

Quote, originally posted by red16vman »

Iroc, as inappropriate sounding a name as it is, is almost better than scirocco to keep the confusion between the old ones and the new one. c'mon, it's not the same car at all.

It might not be the same car but it deserves to have the Scirocco name.

[6cylVWguy]

This is good news.

There are so many unanswered questions though. I am very much interested in what this vehicle looks like. If it's like a squished rabbit instead of having it's own unique lines, I'm not sure I would be a fan.

However, if VW can pull this off correctly, this is likely to be the only VW I would consider buying in the future. Though judging by how recent VWs are priced and equipped, features on this car are going to be crucial. If they basically do the opposite to what the USDM mkV R32 is going to be like, they could have a winner.

Just some harmless fantasy, but I would love to see new rocco that harkens back to design cues of either the mkI rocco or Corrado, equipped with a 240hp 2.0t. Have a package 0 car equipped identically to a package 0 GTI, though allow for AWD to be a standalone option. If I could get a package 0, 240hp, traditional 6 speed manual, and AWD for 26-27k, I will own one. Assuming of course, it's available in the US when the lease of my GTI is up. This would be the ideal situation IMO.

[webthread]

I keep looking at it, and I want to make myself like it but I can't. I just don't like the way it looks. Maybe if they do some design tweaks, then I'll be on board.

I'd still rather have an Audi TT or a GTI, or import a two door Audi A3.

[gti-marv]

Quote, originally posted by 6cylVWguy »

This is good news. There are so many unanswered questions though. I am very much interested in what this vehicle looks like. If it's like a squished rabbit instead of having it's own unique lines, I'm not sure I would be a fan. However, if VW can pull this off correctly, this is likely to be the only VW I would consider buying in the future. Though judging by how recent VWs are priced and equipped, features on this car are going to be crucial. If they basically do the opposite to what the USDM mkV R32 is going to be like, they could have a winner. Just some harmless fantasy, but I would love to see new rocco that harkens back to design cues of either the mkI rocco or Corrado, equipped with a 240hp 2.0t. Have a package 0 car equipped identically to a package 0 GTI, though allow for AWD to be a standalone option. If I could get a package 0, 240hp, traditional 6 speed manual, and AWD for 26-27k, I will own one. Assuming of course, it's available in the US when the lease of my GTI is up. This would be the ideal situation IMO.

Sounds like your almost describing the new Audi S3. If it's like that than I'd be all for that

[6cylVWguy]

Quote, originally posted by gti-marv »

Sounds like your almost describing the new Audi S3. If it's like that than I'd be all for that

That would be great. Think S3 with a sleek body, powerful drivetrain, and none of the frills associated with an Audi. At least, that's how it is in my dreams!

[Jpics]

we want it and we want it NOW!

[jamie@vwvortex]

This new Scirocco will look like this:

Winterkorn has ordered a revised front end that Walter DeSilva (new head of VW design) is reportedly working on.

So it will be a hatchback form however keep in mind that this thing is nearly 3 inches shorter than a GTI and nearly 3 inches wider yet the wheelbase on the production car will be the same as the GTI.

So it will have a very short, squat and wide look to it... which would be great as a very aggressive GTI but I'm also a little disappointed that VW didn't take the opportunity to build a true coupe in the spirit of the original Scirocco or Corrado.

-jamie

[Chris16vRocco]

Quote, originally posted by jamie@vwvortex »

So it will have a very short, squat and wide look to it... which would be great as a very aggressive GTI but I'm also a little disappointed that VW didn't take the opportunity to build a true coupe in the spirit of the original Scirocco or Corrado. -jamie

That's exactly what I don't like about it as well. I mean, it looks good, but it doesn't look like a Scirocco should. The Scirocco and Corrado were both sport coupes, not a GTI hatchback with the roof chopped.

[MisterKris]

Finially a decent looking front end design from VW and they want to change it.

[kr964]

I think it'll look more like this :

[staticlizfail]

thats hot. i want one.

[JonnyPhenomenon]

the first one looks like a chopped gti. the second one looks like a jetta or passat hatchback.

would be nice to have something in between. altho I rrrrrrrReally like the way they both look. heh.

and as soon as my fince graduates college, I might be able to actually start entertaining the idea of owning one....

[JonnyPhenomenon]

actually, the second one looks a lot like a corrado. and Id rather have the green one. hah.

[DutchVDub]

Quote, originally posted by JonnyPhenomenon »

actually, the second one looks a lot like a corrado. and Id rather have the green one. hah.

Well the Corrado was, for all intents and purposes, a SciroccoIII with a different name.

I say keep the rear end of the red one, but incorporate the front end of the green one. And I totally agree, this thing should come with a beefed up 2.0T and the ability to get AWD without the thousands of dollars in extra b.s. that we don't want or need. Personaly I would like to see an SLC (higher-end VR6 option) as well though. I know the 2.0T is like th perfect melding of the 1.8T and VR6, but I love the sound of a VR6 exhaust.

[wachuko]

That is what I want... I sent VW a couple of emails to make sure they know people in the USA are interested in getting their hands on this car... and I want one...

I just hope it stays close to the IROC concept they have been showing... and I would not mind the green color at all... but would be nice to see it in a few different wild colors (lambo metallic orange for example)...

Quote, originally posted by jamie@vwvortex »

This new Scirocco will look like this: Winterkorn has ordered a revised front end that Walter DeSilva (new head of VW design) is reportedly working on. So it will be a hatchback form however keep in mind that this thing is nearly 3 inches shorter than a GTI and nearly 3 inches wider yet the wheelbase on the production car will be the same as the GTI. So it will have a very short, squat and wide look to it... which would be great as a very aggressive GTI but I'm also a little disappointed that VW didn't take the opportunity to build a true coupe in the spirit of the original Scirocco or Corrado. -jamie

[Twin Turbo V10]

They are sweet

[scirocco1800]

Green one = Scirocco IROC
Red One = Scirocco GTI

[classicvw]

To make it perform like a true IROC and like the Scirocco and Corrado could have, they need to drop in the 350 hp V8. Then, offer 4Motion, and true dual exhaust, could you imagine, all that power in such a small frame and 324 ft lbs torque?!?! That would be one fun ride and still NA, just think of all the upgrades a person could do. Oh, and don't forget the F1 style Tiptronic shifting. OOOHHH, that could mean an eight speed tranny?...... Thoughts

[Mr. Hahns]

Is that suppose to be the Corrado or Scirroco..I know its a Scirroco thread, but I can't make out what is say on the hatch?

Modified by Mr. Hahns at 5:46 PM 3-20-2007

[Rays-Rocco]

The hatch says Scirocco

[Mr. Hahns]

[upper90deg]

niiiiiiiiice

[Mr. Hahns]

Wa wa wee wa you like.........

[flygliii]

Remember the Jetta Coupe concept from some years back, CJ, or something? I vaguely remember it from European Car Magazine (RIP). It almost looks like that, the red one does. The green one...meh.

And it's similar enough to the Mk5 VW's to fit in, you know, not too outlandish. I still miss my '81 Scirocco S

[Epibenji]

definatly a fan of the red. It looks nice and clean. But I've seen the green is the only one pictured in any mags.... eww.

[vw mkII]

I like the red one.
but the green one looks like a totaly different car.

[sirAQUAMAN64]

Quote, originally posted by kr964 »

I think it'll look more like this :

I wish.

The IROC is nice, but not different enough from the GTI concept for me. And I bought a GTI for the amount of interior space... I'm not keen on losing any headroom since I'm 6-4.

[iluvmyveedub]

Why are people so down on the new Scirocco? It's sleek, sporty, and just drop dead gorgeous.

I've heard the whole "But it doesn't look like a Scirocco" thing, and you know what, you can cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it. Why on earth would you want cars that all look the same? Besides, the the Mk1 & Mk2 models are no more dissimilar from each other than the Mk3 is from the previous models.

And if we want to be really anal about this, we could bring up the fact that the Corrado looks like a smoother Mk1. Now why on earth would they name it that if the design implication are that obvious?

Oh, and that red thing is a Scirocco that will never see production.

[Edifi]

Just to add two more cents, that red scirocco looks more like a modern day corrado than anything, with me people?!

[L.Williams]

Played around with photoshop, what you think of these colors?

[JonnyPhenomenon]

Quote, originally posted by L.Williams »

Played around with photoshop, what you think of these colors?

I think that blue one is making my pants TIGHT...