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    1. Member ginster86roc's Avatar
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      02-13-2007 10:39 AM #1
      so maybe you've been waiting to see how my tail lights turned out...read on and you shall see. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      after reading in other shaved tail light threads about tinting the finished product...it got me to thinking.
      i saw several folks recommend the "krylon fusion" brand of spray paint. so i went about finding some for myself. upon finding it at my local auto parts chain and reading the label, i just wasn't too convinced that this was the product for me. i just wasn't comfortable with the fact that it didn't seem to be a *clear* paint, and that would require a certain degree of "feathering" which takes a special touch... to achieve "even-ness" in the final coat.
      so what to do?
      i harkened back to my many years of plastic model building and remembered a company by the name of tamiya....a superb japanese company that cranks out an outstanding line of scale models/remote control vehicles and hobby supplies...paints and so forth. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      with this in mind, i drove down to colonial photo & hobby, a favorite local hobby shop of mine for the last, ohhh 20 yrs or so, knowing full well that they'd have what i wanted.
      indeed they did. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      so...back to business....
      i took my nicely shaved lenses and blew them out with compressed air. this is important to get ALL the sanding residue out of the nooks and crannies, lest it be blown up into my nice, fresh wet coat of tint. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      those that build plastic models will be familiar with the next step: washing the soon-to-be-painted surface to rid it of oils and contaminants.
      without immersing the lenses, i ran a pail of sudsy water and washed the lens faces and anywhere i had gotten the oils from my skin on the plastic. this will prevent 'fisheyes'/etc. in your finish coat. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      then i blew them dry and let 'em sit for a couple hours to air dry.
      so here are my cleaned, dried and blown lenses taped up with blue painters' tape...ready for some spray action...notice the reverse lenses covered up. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      this is the product i used...clear red from tamiya's line of model paints...availabe from your local hobbyist for ~6 bux a can. kinda spendy, but these folks IMHO offer among the best money can buy. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      after waiting for the rain to stop yesterday, i was hot to paint. took the lenses out back and laid 2 thin coats...this is what they looked like after that.... [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      you can ^see^ just how thin the clear red went on by looking at the overspray on the masking tape...2 thin coats and i had the darkness (shade) that i wanted.
      i let the red dry for about 2 hours. lookin' groovy at this point!
      and though i liked the red, that wasn't "exactly" where i wanted it. enter the next product: tamiya's smoked clear. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      i removed the masking from the reverse lenses while leaving the rest of the tail lights covered in tape...thereby allowing me to shade over the red as well.
      i didn't wanna smoke my tails so dark that following drivers would have trouble detecting my braking intentions, so 2 light coats here got me the results i wanted. note the treatment of the reverse lenses. again, i was impressed by the results....

      i let the assemblies dry for an hour or so before removing the tape, at which time it was possible to marvel at my shaved, tinted, smoky goodness! [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]


      diggin' the side-view...red t/sigs that'll blink amber...YUMMY!

      now....some folks mighta stopped there and called it a successful project completion.
      but not me.
      keen eyes will note in the pics ^above^ that the black portions of the tail lamps are kinda funny looking against the nice glossy reflector areas. this would not sit with me, so i brought in the last of the "tamiya trifecta"... clear gloss. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      before doing this last step, i again took the lenses out back to blow them free of any traces of dust that might've otherwise found their way into my finish coat. once this was done, i was ready to shoot the complete assemblies with a gloss coat....this is what we get...

      mmm-mmmm-mmmm! smoky tinted shaved euro goodness!
      mind you...that's only 1 coat of gloss. i plan to see what it looks like after one, maybe two more coats...and then i'll consider the project done. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      one last time...this was the team of players that i used...

      i'll let 'em sit aside undisturbed for about a week once i get the last gloss coat on. this, to let the paint fully harden. then and only then will i consider them safe to handle.

      comments? questions? critiques? send 'em my way. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      i good vibes... and sciroccos.
      Quote Originally Posted by sciroccojim
      Yes. Follow the adjustment procedure in the Bentley. Works like "magic."

      Quote Originally Posted by punchbug
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      02-13-2007 10:46 AM #2
      great work [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      you need more for a job well done
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      02-13-2007 10:51 AM #3
      Ginster. Your attn to detail is AmAaaaaazing!!!
      [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] cookie for you

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      02-13-2007 10:52 AM #4
      I'm thuroughly impressed. I think mine will end up a bit darker, though. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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      02-13-2007 10:59 AM #5
      Quote, originally posted by RoccoRacer »
      I'm thuroughly impressed. I think mine will end up a bit darker, though. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]


      i'm quite happy where they turned out: subtle, but noticeable.
      no need to:
      a) draw attention from the fuzz [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif[/IMG]
      b) confuse trailing drivers as to my braking intentions [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      i good vibes... and sciroccos.
      Quote Originally Posted by sciroccojim
      Yes. Follow the adjustment procedure in the Bentley. Works like "magic."

      Quote Originally Posted by punchbug
      That's just how we roll.

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      02-13-2007 11:10 AM #6
      [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] those look sweet
      Job well done
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      02-13-2007 11:13 AM #7
      Very Nice end results look amazing!

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      02-13-2007 11:15 AM #8
      Now get them on your car and take some new pictures
      "Everything is possible to the man who does not have to do it for himself"

    9. 02-13-2007 11:26 AM #9
      Quote, originally posted by ginster86roc »


      mmm-mmmm-mmmm! smoky tinted shaved euro goodness!

      i'll let 'em sit aside undisturbed for about a week once i get the last gloss coat on. this, to let the paint fully harden. then and only then will i consider them safe to handle.

      comments? questions? critiques? send 'em my way. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]


      Oh My God that is soooooooooooo hawt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Well that about covers it for me [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    10. 02-13-2007 11:54 AM #10
      I'd be interested in seeing how well that paint sticks to that plastic as time goes on... wonder if you could have used a clear etching primer first.

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      02-13-2007 12:13 PM #11
      They look fantastic! They'll look great on your car. I would have gone darker with the smoke look since you car is yellow, but you are right about the Po-PO.
      Perhaps he has a point. Have them gloss clearcoated with automotive-grade spray paint. Model paints aren't for outdoor use..
      I used to build 1/48 planes in my young teens. I took it pretty seriously with modified kits , battle damage, smoothed seams, airbrush camo patterns, and clearcoat to seal the decals. Great hobby. I wonder if all those Testors fumes got to me , though

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      02-13-2007 12:22 PM #12
      You rule, Carl!!

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      02-13-2007 12:23 PM #13
      exactly how I did mine!

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      02-13-2007 12:23 PM #14
      Quote, originally posted by jimmi_james »
      I'd be interested in seeing how well that paint sticks to that plastic as time goes on...


      you know, this thought occurred to me as well.

      and i've seen units on other cars (my buddy's slc f'rinstance) where over time the paint's come off. this pic doesn't show the effect b/c he'd already taken it off w/ a scotchbrite pad, they looked so shatty...he'd tinted the top 1/2 of each lens...

      i was present when he shot his lenses and i'll offer up these 2 things:
      1) i b'lieve it has to do w/ the product being applied: some'r better'n others.
      and
      2) it's all in the surface prep: to give a good surface to bond to.
      when shooting dan's tails IIRC he did nothing more than wipe the surface w/ windex, mask em off, and shoot.
      a'course...if i'da known then what i know now.....
      besides....i believe (and hope) that i've got numbers 1 and 2 nailed.

      time will tell.
      i good vibes... and sciroccos.
      Quote Originally Posted by sciroccojim
      Yes. Follow the adjustment procedure in the Bentley. Works like "magic."

      Quote Originally Posted by punchbug
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      02-13-2007 12:24 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by misterwahoo »
      exactly how I did mine!

      and how did/do they hold up?
      i good vibes... and sciroccos.
      Quote Originally Posted by sciroccojim
      Yes. Follow the adjustment procedure in the Bentley. Works like "magic."

      Quote Originally Posted by punchbug
      That's just how we roll.

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      02-13-2007 12:53 PM #16
      sweet [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] i will be sure to fallow part I and II step by step

    17. 02-13-2007 01:12 PM #17
      sexy beyond belief . haha within the next few days there's gonna be about 30 posts about people's newly shaved/tinted/painted tails thanks to ginster, of course.

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      02-13-2007 01:20 PM #18
      looks great
      [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] thats the look i was going for but i used Krylon Stained glass paint
      its way too dark , 1coat , and i worry about getting rear ended [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif[/IMG]
      I recently p/u'd a can of SEM candy red and a can of Testors candy red and did a test panel w/ all 3 and the candies are close and the Krylon coverage was way too opaque
      i'll be redoing another set soon
      Thanx for the inspiration and a [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] for the walnuts to modify such a rare commodity(perfect tails)
      look at link below for the stained glass results
      Modified by VWsEatRice at 10:23 AM 2-13-2007


      Modified by VWsEatRice at 10:24 AM 2-13-2007

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      02-13-2007 01:48 PM #19
      Quote, originally posted by ginster86roc »
      and how did/do they hold up?


      3+ years of summer only driving, and the look the same as the day I did them. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      02-13-2007 02:38 PM #20
      Very fine work, Carl!
      I have/had the same concern about long term adhesion, but your wet sanding work should provide a great surface for the paint to adhere to.
      Some good bakin' in the FL sun should seal the deal!

    21. 02-13-2007 03:39 PM #21
      great guide!!
      cheers m8

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      02-13-2007 04:26 PM #22
      Quote, originally posted by timbo2132 »
      You rule, Carl!!

      Timbo, get off yer ass and add both of these procedures to the tech notes.
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      02-13-2007 04:40 PM #23
      Quote, originally posted by veetarded »
      Timbo, get off yer ass and add both of these procedures to the tech notes.
      Carl: You sir, are a motherf'n gangstuuurr.

      Oh, It'll get added, (with your permission, Carl!)

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      02-13-2007 05:06 PM #24
      Quote, originally posted by timbo2132 »
      Oh, It'll get added, (with your permission, Carl!)

      what?? Timbo don't take that guff from the veetard! E-bitchslap that SoCal bully!!!

    25. 02-13-2007 05:54 PM #25
      That's one Hot piece of Tail..lights
      Sick job!!!!!!!!!!!!! [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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