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    Thread: How to solve (or prevent) Eos Roof leaks

    1. 09-16-2007 06:31 AM #201
      I can see something got wet but can you elaborate on what this is?

    2. 09-16-2007 12:31 PM #202
      Quote, originally posted by dcoz »
      I can see something got wet but can you elaborate on what this is?
      The post about this is near the bottom of this page -- http://forums.vwvortex.com/zer...age=1

    3. 09-25-2007 08:07 PM #203
      It's worth noting that this new TSB apparently specifies a different type of lubricant than the G 052 172 A1 discussed in the owner's manual. After the unseasonably early rainstorm in Northern California this past weekend exposed the fact that my A-pillar was leaking, I took my car in today and, apparently based on this new TSB, the dealer is ordering new seals for the driver's side of the car and they also need a new adhesive and lubricant for them. Not sure I can get any more specific info out my dealer though. It'd be interesting to know if VW has decided there is something better to use than "krytox"...
      David Z.

    4. 09-27-2007 07:29 AM #204
      My EOS came with the following package in the glove compartment. It looks like krytox imbedded in a cloth. It says it is good for one application. The only thing which looks like a part number is 000 096 331

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      09-29-2007 03:51 AM #205
      Hey (PE) Michael,
      Brilliant post by you! The most informative post I've seen in any forum for any topic! Great photos and instructions. You cannot go wrong!
      I have been reading up on the Eos, and I plan to test-drive one shortly. I will just have to decide which one... the 2.0TDI or 2.0FSI.
      Anyway, due to the Eos being a hard-top convertible (huge bonus for obvious reasons), it's obvious that the whole mechanism/seals need more care than a leather roof. I remember my old '68 VW Beetle, and it doesn't compare.
      Joe.

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      09-29-2007 09:18 PM #206
      Chris
      Looking at where that water got in I'm wondering if the problem is the window seal at the bottom rather than the roof. Have you tried flooding the rear windows to see if water is getting in where the window meets the body.. I thiink you could unhook the carpet from the holder at the back of the trunk and get a light in there from the trunk while doing it...
      -Mark


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      09-29-2007 09:19 PM #207
      I like the look of this kit...

    8. 10-02-2007 12:09 AM #208
      The EOS has been in the shop for the past 2+ weeks so I'll give it a shot when they are done replace all of the seals and doing all of the TB's related to the roof. I knew you could remove that bit of carpet since that is how I traced the water from the spare tire well up into the trunk and into that pocket on the side of the car. I don't quite know how I could illuminate that portion of the car and have it be useful unless I can set up a remote camera. I don't particularly enjoy the thought of climbing into my trunk and closing the lid. Perhaps if I just leave the trunk open and not use so much water that it over flows the trunk trough.

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      10-02-2007 03:26 AM #209
      I was thinking of a video camera and light....

    10. 10-02-2007 08:13 PM #210
      Is anyone else waiting on "National Backorder" to get this TB resolved? I guess they didn't gauge the supply and demand quite right if they don't have a single one of the kits associated with the TB in the States. How long does it take to ship stuff from Germany any way?

    11. 10-05-2007 10:41 PM #211
      Quote, originally posted by Sammy »
      My EOS came with the following package in the glove compartment. It looks like krytox imbedded in a cloth. It says it is good for one application. The only thing which looks like a part number is 000 096 331

      Sammy:
      Is that what that is? LOL I've had my car for about 1 month. That
      envelope-looking thing has been sitting on my dining room table for
      a while.
      Hi, all. I'm a newbie. So how often should the seals be lubricated?
      I haven't had any problems thus far. I did come across one issue,
      but that was I believe the hand-wash car wash that I frequent
      didn't shut the door completely, leaving that little gap in the window
      when it went through. My seat, unbeknownst to me, was a little damp
      in the cracks and, well, that left a little dampness in my crack LOL
      Stephanie

      Modified by dct82me at 7:44 PM 10-5-2007


      Modified by dct82me at 7:45 PM 10-5-2007

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      10-05-2007 11:02 PM #212
      Stephanie
      Welcome to the forun.. Yes this is for lubricating the seals, is your car USA or Canada spec (CA could be interpreted either way).
      I'm want to get my hands on one these packages to see how well it works, it it's California I'll be bugging Brendan.
      -Mark

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      10-05-2007 11:58 PM #213
      Quote, originally posted by dct82me »
      Hi, all. I'm a newbie. So how often should the seals be lubricated?
      Stephanie

      Hi Stephanie, welcome to the forum,
      How often the seals require treatment is yet to be determined, and will likely vary from Eos to Eos depending on several factors.
      Here are my observations for our Eos:
      I lubricated the seals the day I brought the car home from the dealership, Feb 19/07. Since then I did a partial application to the exterior roof seals only (the ones around the outside of the sunroof and the fixed glass roof panel). That would have been near the end of May or early June I think.
      A couple weeks ago I washed the car and was thinking the seals should probably have another application of lubricant, but when I checked the seals they were all fine, still soft and supple and slightly "shiny" looking.
      So one thorough application and a touch up in 7.5 - 8 months and all is still good, but.....
      Our Eos hasn't seen a lot of use yet (just approaching 8000 km/5000 mi.), it is garaged most of the time, we live in a fairly temperate climate, and this summer, with the exception of July, we had a fair bit of rain so it wasn't very dusty for the most part.
      Owners that use their cars as daily drivers, live in hot and/or dusty climates, or are exposed to industrial pollutants, etc. may find it necessary to treat the seals more often.
      In general though, I think most of the feedback from forum members is suggesting that once or twice a year is all that will be required under most operating conditions.
      Kevin

      PS great color choice


      Modified by just4fun at 10:01 PM 10-5-2007

    14. 10-07-2007 01:42 AM #214
      My bad! I've modified my profile.
      Quote, originally posted by mark_d_drake »
      Stephanie
      Welcome to the forun.. Yes this is for lubricating the seals, is your car USA or Canada spec (CA could be interpreted either way).

      That would be Pomona, California (Los Angeles).
      Quote, originally posted by just4fun »
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    16. 10-18-2007 04:44 PM #216
      I had 10,000 mile service done on my car Tuesday, and also had them check my seals for a small leak in the front on both sides. They realigned the seals and told me if they used the Krytox it would make the seals leak more. Has anyone else been told this, and is it true? Both of the tech had been to training for the EOS, and said this is what they were told.

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      10-18-2007 06:05 PM #217
      Quote, originally posted by seakayfl »
      I had 10,000 mile service done on my car Tuesday, and also had them check my seals for a small leak in the front on both sides. They realigned the seals and told me if they used the Krytox it would make the seals leak more. Has anyone else been told this, and is it true? Both of the tech had been to training for the EOS, and said this is what they were told.

      This is the first I've heard of this.
      TB 61 07 08 was released on October 2nd, 2007 and is intended to inform VW technicians about the proper procedure for lubricating seals.
      It specifically states "to reduce noise fron convertible top operation , water/air intrusion due to dry seals" (i.e. leaks)
      You would think this is the most up-to-date information from VW.
      Kevin

    18. 10-20-2007 05:32 PM #218
      Well, Kevin, looks like I'm gonna have to inspect my seals. I got my
      car washed today, and this is the first time I noticed water - ugh!! It
      was on the driver's side top pillar (I guess you call it). It's where the
      black cloth is. I'll have to purchase that Krytox. Reading all of the
      past posts, I'm on overload regarding this topic. It looks like I'll have
      to print out the pics (instructions) on applying the lubricant.
      Stephanie

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      10-20-2007 06:57 PM #219
      Hi Stephanie,
      Don't let yourself get too worked up about lubricating the seals, it really is a lot simpler than all the "tech" talk makes it sound.
      After washing your Eos, was there water inside the car? or was it just sitting on top of the seal near the top of the pillar?
      Kevin


    20. 10-21-2007 09:12 PM #220
      Like I had stated, that horizontal pillar above my left shoulder was
      wet (almost soaked, I'd say). There were water drops dripping down
      onto my arm, and I also saw that the floormat was wet -- that's how
      much moisture there was. I'm going to purchase the lubricant and
      apply it to the seals (there was no moisture on the passenger's side).
      Also, where is it I can find the build date, as someone on the forum
      had mentioned before? Thanks.
      Stephanie

    21. 10-22-2007 05:52 AM #221
      Quote, originally posted by dct82me »
      Also, where is it I can find the build date, as someone on the forum
      had mentioned before? Thanks.
      Stephanie

      It will be on the vehicle info plate inside the driver's door below the B pillar.

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      10-22-2007 08:49 PM #222
      Quote, originally posted by dct82me »
      Like I had stated, that horizontal pillar above my left shoulder was
      wet (almost soaked, I'd say). There were water drops dripping down
      onto my arm, and I also saw that the floormat was wet -- that's how
      much moisture there was. I'm going to purchase the lubricant and
      apply it to the seals (there was no moisture on the passenger's side).
      Also, where is it I can find the build date, as someone on the forum
      had mentioned before? Thanks.
      Stephanie

      Hi Stephanie,
      I just wasn't 100% clear on your first explanation, but by what you describe above, that is definitely not right. Hopefully lubricating the seals will fix things up for you.
      Kevin


    23. 10-23-2007 08:35 AM #223
      Quote, originally posted by SoCalMan »
      It will be on the vehicle info plate inside the driver's door below the B pillar.

      Thanks!!
      Quote, originally posted by just4fun »
      I just wasn't 100% clear on your first explanation, but by what you describe above, that is definitely not right. Hopefully lubricating the seals will fix things up for you.

      Yeah, I'll have to do it shortly. Right now I just spent A LOT more time
      in my car on a commute from Vegas home b/c of these fires around
      here. They closed the main artery from Vegas to L.A. (15 fwy), so I had
      to take an alt. route 3-hours outta the way. Let's just say that my
      commute home took an extra 5 HOURS!!!! I had gotten a root canal
      done at a buddy's dental ofc. At one point during the night my meds
      had kicked in so my dad drove a portion of the way. At that time I
      "attempted" to lie down in the backseat. I'm 5-10 ... LMAO!!!!!!!!

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      10-23-2007 08:28 PM #224
      Sounds about as bad as a day can get.
      I heard on the news today that the wildfires have displaced over 250,000 people and destroyed 700 homes. That is a horrific impact they are having on many people.
      Kevin


    25. 10-24-2007 11:19 AM #225
      Quote, originally posted by just4fun »
      Sounds about as bad as a day can get.
      I heard on the news today that the wildfires have displaced over 250,000 people and destroyed 700 homes. That is a horrific impact they are having on many people.
      Kevin

      As of yesterday, a million people displaced, mostly in San Diego County. As of 8:10 am PDT, the sky is a strange orange color. Air smells of smoke. Dirt and ash everywhere. Some fires contained, some not. The good news is the high wind is virtually gone which should help the fire fighters. I don't know how they do what they do. And the high pressure weather system is breaking down...cooler weather and an on-shore breeze expected in the next 12 hours.
      Our Eos, even though garaged, has a layer of dust she never had before. A good bath is in order soon.

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