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    Thread: DIY: Cleaning up Engine bay...Removing SAI, N249, PCV, EVAP

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      07-10-2012 09:46 PM #1526
      I have all emissions deletes...

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      07-10-2012 11:10 PM #1527
      is the computer flashed for emissions delete?
      Doesnt matter if you have resistors in the solenoid plugs or not, The programming still sees that there is incorrect secondary and evap flow.
      the car is on an inclined driveway and up on jack stands in the front only
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      07-10-2012 11:59 PM #1528
      Yes the magical Ecu box was sent out to santa's workshop for emissions deletes.
      Like I just said. I have emissions deletes.

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      07-11-2012 07:27 PM #1529
      so the answer is, NO, you have not had your ecm programmed for emissions deletes
      the car is on an inclined driveway and up on jack stands in the front only
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      07-12-2012 11:31 PM #1530
      done the diy now dv makes whip like noise when letting off of heavy boost. but not at 5 lbs. cant find any vacuum leaks either. i have not done any resistors yet. could that throw it off?
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      07-13-2012 12:24 AM #1531
      Quote Originally Posted by Slimjimmn View Post
      so the answer is, NO, you have not had your ecm programmed for emissions deletes
      The answer is yes numb nuts.
      I swear whenever I have a technical question people here give advise like calling tech support....."try rebooting the computer"

      The Ecu has all emissions deleted. Yes yes and yes.

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      07-13-2012 06:59 AM #1532
      Quote Originally Posted by speed51133! View Post
      The answer is yes numb nuts.
      I swear whenever I have a technical question people here give advise like calling tech support....."try rebooting the computer"

      The Ecu has all emissions deleted. Yes yes and yes.
      Speed51133 - your answer is HERE.

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      07-13-2012 08:28 AM #1533
      Awesome. Thank you!

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      07-13-2012 12:02 PM #1534
      Quote Originally Posted by speed51133! View Post
      sorry..that is 2 prong ,and who said anythign about N80?!

      I am talking about the evap pump that is behind the wheel liner. You have to jack the car up, remove the wheel well liner, and it is behind the liner. It is the pump for testing the system, and the pump is THREE pronged, NOT TWO......sorry to be annoyed, but you are annoyed at me for assuming something incorrect.

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      the above link has one for sale on ebay, and you can CLEARLY see the three prongged plug

      I am not annoyed, I was assuming you had the incorrect flow CEL which is caused by the N80 valve (Evaporative Vacuum Purge Valve) since you have all the emission deletes. Most people don't remove the LDP rather cap the hose that runs into the engine bay:



      I have all emission deletes and I still had to resistor the N80 valve much like or jump the pins, whatever works.

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      07-13-2012 02:00 PM #1535
      yep, thats the bastard pump i removed!

      ill try jumping an outer to middle pin and hope i dont fry something....

      this LDP removal jumping of the pins should go up on page 1.....
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      07-13-2012 09:00 PM #1536
      just an FYI, the leak detection pumps only purpose is to pressurize the gas tank and charcoal canister to check for leaks.
      the car is on an inclined driveway and up on jack stands in the front only
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      07-13-2012 09:27 PM #1537
      Quote Originally Posted by vr6_nocorrectway View Post
      done the diy now dv makes whip like noise when letting off of heavy boost. but not at 5 lbs. cant find any vacuum leaks either. i have not done any resistors yet. could that throw it off?
      You need the resistors
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      07-14-2012 12:17 PM #1538
      This question was probably already asked but do you need the resistors if your running say Maestro with the emissions components disabled?

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      08-07-2012 02:58 PM #1539
      can i use this to delete evap and not throw code?
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      08-08-2012 02:32 AM #1540
      Quote Originally Posted by travis_gli View Post
      This question was probably already asked but do you need the resistors if your running say Maestro with the emissions components disabled?
      This.

      I was told you dont need resistors. I dont have any running maestro all deletes. I was also wondering if it could be messing with me.
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    16. 08-08-2012 09:33 AM #1541
      The ecu needs the circuit completed, so yes, you need resistors.
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      08-08-2012 09:35 AM #1542
      Quote Originally Posted by 20VCanuck View Post
      This.

      I was told you dont need resistors. I dont have any running maestro all deletes. I was also wondering if it could be messing with me.
      From what I've been reading if you don't use resistors your LTFT's go way out of whack. However I haven't had this experience personally.

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      08-08-2012 10:27 AM #1543
      it has been said a million times....

      YOU ALWAYS NEED RESISTORS!!!!!!!!

      now only two components actually need them.......

      you can read to find out which ones....

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      08-08-2012 01:45 PM #1544
      Quote Originally Posted by speed51133! View Post
      it has been said a million times....

      YOU ALWAYS NEED RESISTORS!!!!!!!!

      now only two components actually need them.......

      you can read to find out which ones....

      I was told by cts with the big turbo maestro 7 files with emissions deletes you do not need resistors.

      I will toss some in for peice of mind. Anyone with maestro want to chime in on their experiences?
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      08-08-2012 01:47 PM #1545
      cant you just keep the sensors plugged in and to the side?

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      08-08-2012 01:50 PM #1546
      Quote Originally Posted by speed51133! View Post
      it has been said a million times....

      YOU ALWAYS NEED RESISTORS!!!!!!!!

      now only two components actually need them.......

      you can read to find out which ones....
      This may have been the case from everybody but Maestro users. I haven't heard from any Maestro users about resistoring off such components.

      Quote Originally Posted by halchka99 View Post
      cant you just keep the sensors plugged in and to the side?
      Sort of defeats the purpose of cleaning up your engine bay.

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      08-08-2012 03:29 PM #1547
      I did a SAI,Evap,PCV, kombivalve, n249, n112, vac-resv delete the other day on my german B6 tank



      nevermind the toilet-paper where the filter sits


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    23. 08-08-2012 03:39 PM #1548
      You will need resistors on everything for fuel trims. 330 ohm 1 watt. You don't need a 10 watt resistor! I have been using 1 watt for almost 4000 miles now with no issues.

      However, even though the SAI and EVAP N80 circuits have been resistored, you will still get a code for them. Like this:

      SAI- Improper flow
      EVAP- EVAP leak detection

      They will need to be written out of the tune. Then your check engine light will be off and you will pass readiness

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      08-08-2012 05:05 PM #1549
      So will u still get a cel when u put a resistor in the evap sensor?

    25. 08-08-2012 05:15 PM #1550
      Yeah, you will. The EVAP emissions test that is run by the ECU uses a pump to create a vacuum in the fuel tank. Since the purge valve (N80) is not present, it detects a leak and throws the code.

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