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    Thread: DIY: Installing speakers in a mk4 golf/jetta

    1. Member Pat @ Pitt Soundworks's Avatar
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      03-23-2011 10:11 AM #76
      Please don't quote pictures. If you could edit that out I would really appreciate it.

      The rings were held in using 2" 6-32 machine screws. The factory wiring is a 2-pin connector for monsoon, 4-pin for non-monsoon IIRC and it's not "inside" the door, but rather next to the cone of the speaker.

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      05-12-2011 05:33 PM #77
      do you have more pics of the rest of the car ? and where you the rest?took the wiring to the back?

      also why did you chose 2 3/4 ring when 1 was enough? it worked for me...i would like to know the reason of this. maybe your gettin better bass or sound quality from the speaker when its closer to the panel.

      thank you

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      05-12-2011 06:48 PM #78
      No more pictures.

      Two rings are necessary when you run real speakers that actually have some meat to their motors and more than 3mm xmax

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      06-14-2011 03:49 PM #79
      Can anyone tell me if I use Autoleads SAK 3103 standard spacers... what is the max depth of speaker will fit it in the rear door of a MK4 Golf?
      Does the window go far enough down to touch the speaker?

    5. 06-26-2011 04:33 PM #80
      just a note, I took my door panel off today to deal w/ a door handle issue and found my mdf baffle with a giant gash in it. Doesn't look like water damage (i sealed mine too). It's pretty stiff too, I can't push the mdf in to cover the gash or anything. Not sure if it's heat, weight of the speaker or what. Had it installed for about 2 years now. Just wanted to throw the warning out there.

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      06-26-2011 10:45 PM #81
      Most likely moisture soaked in and it doesn't look like it because it's dried. See it all the time. This needs re-done. I recommend only using cutting boards when moisture could be a concern.

    7. 06-26-2011 11:04 PM #82
      yup yup, going to redo it tomorrow. I've seen water destroy mdf before. The typical swollen up look. It's not swollen at all so it couldn't have been a crazy amount of moisture. Do you think it's from humidity or rain water? And what do you mean by 'cutting board'?

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      06-26-2011 11:07 PM #83
      It's mostly from moisture coming between the window and the seal then finding it's way along the back side of the window regulator and up to the mdf. It's always very humid around here and my MDF pile doesn't have any problems unless it comes in direct contact with water.

      http://www.google.com/search?um=1&hl...l118l468l2.3l5

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      06-27-2011 12:31 PM #84
      These are the adapters I bought:

      http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Scosche+...&skuId=7200575

      They work great, nice fit, no fuss installation and great price. If you don't want to mess w/ MDF rings these work great, I've had them for two and a half years w/ no problems.

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      06-27-2011 12:43 PM #85
      Premade adapters are great until you start installing real speakers

    11. 08-04-2011 01:57 PM #86
      So i have a 2 door gti, i have 6.5 speakers all 4 ends? Also is it best to go with componat speakers or buy tweeters sperate?

    12. 08-07-2011 12:04 AM #87
      Do you have any pictures of how you routed the speaker wire into the driver side door? I triend to insert it from the door into the car but I couldn't.

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      08-07-2011 05:00 AM #88
      Quote Originally Posted by VDubieU View Post
      Do you have any pictures of how you routed the speaker wire into the driver side door? I triend to insert it from the door into the car but I couldn't.
      Seriously?

      And how did you try?

      Seriously? Wow.

      Route the wires with the rest of the door wires.


      ^drunk post. I'm not always an *******.

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      08-07-2011 10:38 AM #89
      It's MUCH MUCH easier to get the wires through the door guide if you take pull the rubber boot off of the clip on the body side. Then you can feed the wire through the body, then down through the rubber. And when you're done, slip the rubber boot back over it's clip.

    15. 11-08-2011 03:35 PM #90
      are the speaker grilles directly attached the the door panel? i want to put different grilles in but i want to know if all have to cut the current ones out of the door panel

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      11-08-2011 09:45 PM #91
      they are held in by large plastic rivets. to remove, take a very large drill bit and spin it on the back side of the door skin where the rivet attaches at medium speed and very light pressure. This will cut the head off quickly and cleanly.

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      12-10-2011 06:52 PM #92
      Hey guys.
      I have a 2002 Jetta that I bought used around 3 years back when I was in high school. It came with an aftermarket head unit installed in it (older model Pioneer Mosfet 50Wx4 I think). The speakers didn't get swapped out, so I was left with all stock. No more than 6 months after I started driving my Jetta, pretty much all of the speakers were blown. It's probably because I had them blasting all the time... the only sound I had for a while came from both tweeters in the front that are mounted in the A-pillar near the side mirrors. They actually sounded pretty good and I saw no need to replace them.

      Another 2 or 3 months went by until I got the money to buy some new speakers to swap out the old ones. I got 4 Sony X-Plode coaxial speakers on sale for like $80 when Circuit City was going out of business. (not quite sure, but probably an earlier model of one that looked like this: http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...52921665804573)
      I didn't really research what I needed before I scooped them up because they were on sale and I was young and just wanted music in my car. Eventually, I got some of the plastic spacers so I could mount them in my doors and the VW speaker harness to convert the black and red wires to that European plug format.

      Now with everything I thought I needed, I proceeded to take off all of the door panels, and rip out the rivets and old woofers with back of a hammer. Mounting the spacers to the doors was pretty easy. I didn't use any clay like I saw one of you put between your spacers and the door (I don't really hear any vibrating so its cool with me). After mounting all of the new speakers in the doors on their spacers and connecting them their speaker harnesses I ran into a problem.

      The coaxial speakers in the front doors played both high and lows, utilizing the whole speaker, while the front tweeters continued to sound great. The problem I encountered was that the rear door speakers only were playing the lows, not utilizing its built in tweeter, while the tweeters that are mounted in the door panel near the door handle remain broken. I have been rolling around with this setup ever since. Honestly, I have a nice sound quality projecting from the front of me, but the back just sucks. When you sit in the back seat it sounds like my stereo is real whack.

      Wow that was kind of a long story just to get to that point. My question to you DIY dudes out there is, What do you think the best way to approach solving this situation?

      • Since I have a coaxial speaker mounted in the back already, would it be easier to just divert the signal going to the tweeter mounted in the door to the speaker I installed using a crossover?
        ----This is probably the easiest and cheapest solution to my problem right? I'd like this a lot because it would actually put those rear speakers to use for once.
        ----I really don't feel like buying a component speaker set to replace those speakers in the rear doors and put in new tweeters if I don't have to. Broke college student...
      • Do you think it is going to be necessary to get an amp to pump up the power delivered to those rear speakers?.....This will probably be much more expensive and a pain the ass to install I'm guessing



      Honestly, I don't know too much about car audio and wiring, but I have been reading up a little on it in forums the past few days. I think I can tackle it by myself or with a buddy. If you think you have some sort solution or advice to me that'd be awesome.

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      12-28-2011 12:38 AM #93
      Really useful! I had something similar to this, but I used foam and it wasn't quite as sturdy so I think I am going to try this method. Do you have any rattling at all?

    19. 01-01-2012 07:45 PM #94
      http://www.honeydohardware.com/comer...dProduct=60673


      Drill 4 holes 90 degrees apart to attach to car door. The speaker holes on my Jetta are 6.2" / 156mm apart.
      Drill 4 holes offset 45 degrees from above to attach speaker to grate. My Pioneer TS-A1604C speaker holes have a 6" diameter.
      mount speaker to grate with #6x2 screws ( or whatever is appropriate )


      The inside depth of the grate 1.8 in so if your speaker is deeper than that you will need to cut a 2" or 3" hole for the speaker to protrude a drop.
      I am going to use a 7" piece of rubber shower base to make a seal between door cavity and drain which will eliminate the need for caulk and also will help keep the little bolts in place before inserting them into the bottom part of the drain.

      I would attach photos but I do not think Vortex has a photo hosting process.


      $3.40 and about 10 minutes worth of work.
      Last edited by chicago_audi; 01-01-2012 at 08:00 PM. Reason: photo text

    20. 04-25-2012 03:06 PM #95
      So I know nothing about stereo systems. With that said if this is a stupid question... im sorry.

      Im running the stock non monsoon stereo with four blown speakers, is there a way to use the factory wiring to install aftermarket speakers? or would this be really bad way to do it?

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      04-25-2012 05:06 PM #96
      Quote Originally Posted by DFreshh View Post
      So I know nothing about stereo systems. With that said if this is a stupid question... im sorry.

      Im running the stock non monsoon stereo with four blown speakers, is there a way to use the factory wiring to install aftermarket speakers? or would this be really bad way to do it?
      Audiophiles would probably say that the factory wiring isn't thick enough or high enough quality, but I don't think most people would be able to tell the difference.

      That said, you can use the factory wiring, but you'll have to clip the factory speaker connector off the wires making it difficult to go back to OEM speakers later if needed. However, it's the easiest thing to do if you're running a factory head unit or factory Monsoon amp as running speaker wires to them would involve clipping the harness and splicing there.
      Last edited by FigureFive; 04-25-2012 at 05:40 PM.

    22. 04-25-2012 09:00 PM #97
      Quote Originally Posted by FigureFive View Post
      Audiophiles would probably say that the factory wiring isn't thick enough or high enough quality, but I don't think most people would be able to tell the difference.

      That said, you can use the factory wiring, but you'll have to clip the factory speaker connector off the wires making it difficult to go back to OEM speakers later if needed. However, it's the easiest thing to do if you're running a factory head unit or factory Monsoon amp as running speaker wires to them would involve clipping the harness and splicing there.
      Ok fair enough! Do I have to worry about the new speakers being underpowered or anything like that??

      Also the factory wiring has 4 wires. How do I address this seeing that aftermarket speakers utilize only two?

      Thanks in advance!

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      04-26-2012 02:18 PM #98
      Do all four wires connect to the woofer in the door or do you have separate tweeters up in the corner of the window, so 2 wires into the woofer and 2 wires into the tweeter?

      I've only worked with MkIV's with a Monsoon amp which a pair of wires to each woofer and tweeter, so there's a total of 8 pairs of wires.

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      08-19-2012 08:53 PM #99
      8/19/12 and this guide was an amazing help! I basically followed every instruction and I am very pleased. With all the proper tools this guide is the best for front door speakers, thanks for posting!

    25. 01-07-2013 06:05 AM #100
      I installed the following speaker from amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o00_s00_i00





      I suggest removing the outer styrofoam, It caused massive rattling after installing my bass drivers. Remove seat cushions then work on the panels, it is connected at the trunk area by a clip so don't break your trunks parcel shelf's rails. No baffle or spacers used or needed here. I used kicker 6.5 mid bass drivers to replace the blown woofers, and bolted Pioneer 6x9s to the back of the seat, the bass drivers are completely free air (gain @ 50% & bridged) and the 6x9s have vented boxes, (still running stock veewee speakers in the front doors at partial volume to minimise distortion and a future blow out). Everyone asks me if I have a giant sub box in the back, I do not .

      Just a tip for those wanting to go the bass driver route instead of normal component speakers, set your amps settings up before putting the panels back on your car, your going to want your component speakers to max out before your subs, your not going to hear the subs distorting over your mids and highs, expetually if they are unsealed or unboxed like mine are. I tried to use Styrofoam baffles, it was an epic fail, they rattled more then a blown speaker and limited movement and muffled the smooth bass, they are now in the recycle Styrofoam bag where they belong. Stick to solid baffles and you should be good if you care that much, I prefer free air anyways.

      I would love to stick a bigger sub in but kinda iffy without any instruction or diy, if i know ahead of time I am gunna have to do sheet metal work I can plan accordingly.

      I will have better pictures and an actual diy soon, I think im gunna go for different speakers anyways, maybe even size up and take pics of my process so you can copy my procedure.
      Last edited by Aeroproz; 01-07-2013 at 08:19 AM.

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