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    1. 04-13-2007 03:20 PM #51
      No hemming, FTW.
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      04-13-2007 03:55 PM #52
      this may be REALLY stupid of me...but, why don't you wash your jeans? whats the benefit of not washing them and wearing them so many times?

    3. 04-13-2007 04:00 PM #53
      Quote, originally posted by sej683s »
      this may be REALLY stupid of me...but, why don't you wash your jeans? whats the benefit of not washing them and wearing them so many times?

      They end up developing natural creases due to wearing-down. Fading as well, which will look cool, depending on your style. Go google or wiki, I'm sure you'll find something.
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      04-13-2007 04:04 PM #54
      Quote, originally posted by Dreizehn »
      They end up developing natural creases due to wearing-down. Fading as well, which will look cool, depending on your style. Go google or wiki, I'm sure you'll find something.

      oh that makes sense. i asked the resident girl here at work and she didnt know either.
      Quote, originally posted by Dreizehn »
      nd sucks

      damnit, man!

    5. 04-13-2007 05:20 PM #55
      nudies come in a 30, 32, and 34 inseam... im not positive on the 30, but pretty sure. soo im not sure why you havent seen anything besides 34s.
      as far as hemming, that is up to you, but make sure it is right or else you have messed up a pair of nice denim. also, there is no such thing as too much stacking you could just double cuff them?!
      well, i dont have any problem w/ jeans being too long cuz im a string bean, but my next pair of dry denim will be a 35 or 37 inch inseam

    6. 04-13-2007 05:49 PM #56
      Quote, originally posted by steez »
      BMP: With any, and every raw jean, your going to have to settle with 2" longer than your used to. because when you wash it will shrink.. you dont want to risk high-water $200 jeans.
      Mono.. why do you hate them?
      I get mine done at the cleaners and its an exact replica of the oem hem.. maybe you want to try another tailor.

      apc are sanforized so they won't shrink much after the wash. the strange thing about them is that they come true to size but they stretch a lot. thats why people size down 2 sizes cause they know they will stretch in few days.
      any good tailor will hem them for you and they will look just like before. i say hem them enough so you dont have to cuff (unless you like to have a cuff all the time)

    7. 04-13-2007 06:02 PM #57
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      apc are sanforized so they won't shrink much after the wash. the strange thing about them is that they come true to size but they stretch a lot. thats why people size down 2 sizes cause they know they will stretch in few days.
      any good tailor will hem them for you and they will look just like before. i say hem them enough so you dont have to cuff (unless you like to have a cuff all the time)

      yeah, thats another thing... i noticed a couple people soaking jeans that dont need to be soaked for any reason other than cleaning dirt off of them, but they are brand new or hardly even worn. sanforized denim (what most dry denim that yall speak of is) will not shrink more than like 2% when soaked, which is hardly noticeable, but it will stretch way more than that with normal wear.
      not to sound rude or anything, but i think some of yall hopped on the dry denim bandwagon w/o knowing anything about it. there is tons of info about dry denim on superfuture and there is all the info you would ever need to know... like what needs to be soaked, what different kind of denims there are, the affects from soaking, the different things you can do to maintain denim, etc. i just find it funny that several people on here have bought dry denim because they saw it on here, yet seem to only have bought it cuz it is sort of a new 'trend'.
      well, im done ranting... i just wanted to get that out there

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      04-13-2007 06:06 PM #58
      Quote, originally posted by mike p »
      apc are sanforized so they won't shrink much after the wash. the strange thing about them is that they come true to size but they stretch a lot. thats why people size down 2 sizes cause they know they will stretch in few days.

      I confused them with STF's on the length thing. But either way.. I wouldnt hem to a perfect fit knowing they can shrink.. Id cry if they were ruined heheh

    9. 04-13-2007 06:26 PM #59
      Quote, originally posted by dub-ghord »
      not to sound rude or anything, but i think some of yall hopped on the dry denim bandwagon w/o knowing anything about it. there is tons of info about dry denim on superfuture and there is all the info you would ever need to know... like what needs to be soaked, what different kind of denims there are, the affects from soaking, the different things you can do to maintain denim, etc. i just find it funny that several people on here have bought dry denim because they saw it on here, yet seem to only have bought it cuz it is sort of a new 'trend'.


      You're not ranting. I agree with you. I think it's pretty evident from some of the latest posts around here...but of course, since I'm a nice guy, I won't say any names.
      But what do I know. Let me get back to soaking my Fubus and Karl Kani's...
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      04-13-2007 06:32 PM #60
      Quote, originally posted by monosylabik »


      so, is that the look you are going for? sorry, cant see any other pics here at work... i guess i just dont get it. the OP's look good IMO, but these just don't look right how they fall on his shoes/etc. im pretty much as much out of the fashion loop as it gets tho.

      O <---fashion loop me--->I

    11. 04-13-2007 06:35 PM #61
      That's what many people in here dress like. It's a style. I certainly don't agree with it but it's all relative to each person, so I've come to understand that. So should you.
      Now that I got that out of the way: I think it looks goofy as hell when someone has on tight jeans and big-ass feet popping out. Although, try saying that on superfuture and they will eat you alive. I guess you have to live that lifestyle.
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    12. 04-13-2007 07:35 PM #62
      Quote, originally posted by dub-ghord &raquo;
      yeah, thats another thing... i noticed a couple people soaking jeans that dont need to be soaked for any reason other than cleaning dirt off of them, but they are brand new or hardly even worn. sanforized denim (what most dry denim that yall speak of is) will not shrink more than like 2% when soaked, which is hardly noticeable, but it will stretch way more than that with normal wear.
      not to sound rude or anything, but i think some of yall hopped on the dry denim bandwagon w/o knowing anything about it. there is tons of info about dry denim on superfuture and there is all the info you would ever need to know... like what needs to be soaked, what different kind of denims there are, the affects from soaking, the different things you can do to maintain denim, etc. i just find it funny that several people on here have bought dry denim because they saw it on here, yet seem to only have bought it cuz it is sort of a new 'trend'.
      well, im done ranting... i just wanted to get that out there


      I'd venture to say that 95% of the people here, on Superfuture, etc didn't know what the hell selvedge was until this year. Does it matter? Not really. And what is there to 'know' about dry denim? I'm not gonna hate on the people who starch their jeans or anything like that, but raw denim is so simple yet people make it so freaking complicated. Buy your jeans, and wear the f*ck out of them. It doesn't get much more simple than that.
      Anyways, I really need to take pics of my Straight Svens. I've worn them about 6 days/week since August and they stink, but they are starting to show some nice wear. I might starch them a couple of times and finally wash them. It's time to move onto my next project - APC Hipsters. But its true what they say.. raw denim becomes like a second skin of sorts. My SSDS fit me so freaking perfectly and it sounds weird but I consider them a part of me. Now if I could only find a camera...

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      04-13-2007 10:34 PM #63
      To counter the rant on people buying raw denim because it's a "trend", I give you the definition of trend - "the general course or prevailing tendency". So by you saying that people are buying it because it's the new trend, well, that's kind of an obvious statement, by buying it we are making it the trend.......hope that made sense. Anyways the one thing I hate is when someone decides to do something and someone else who knows more about it than that first person, they act all high and mighty like they not only know it all, but they've always known it (never had to learn or ask these questions themselves)...
      I guarantee that everything anyone in this forum has worn has been worn before. So does that mean you are just copying someone else? Sorry, just hate it when I'm in a forum, regardless of topic, and when someone asks a question others jump on them for not knowing. Everyone has to start somewhere. I'm sure there was a time that you all didn't know what raw denim was either. We are all here to teach and subsequently learn.

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      04-13-2007 10:53 PM #64
      I commend those for venturing outside the box

    15. 04-13-2007 11:07 PM #65
      I commend skizzot on a fantastic speech. Two thumbs up. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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    16. 04-13-2007 11:45 PM #66
      Quote, originally posted by skizzott &raquo;
      To counter the rant on people buying raw denim because it's a "trend", I give you the definition of trend - "the general course or prevailing tendency". So by you saying that people are buying it because it's the new trend, well, that's kind of an obvious statement, by buying it we are making it the trend.......hope that made sense. Anyways the one thing I hate is when someone decides to do something and someone else who knows more about it than that first person, they act all high and mighty like they not only know it all, but they've always known it (never had to learn or ask these questions themselves)...
      I guarantee that everything anyone in this forum has worn has been worn before. So does that mean you are just copying someone else? Sorry, just hate it when I'm in a forum, regardless of topic, and when someone asks a question others jump on them for not knowing. Everyone has to start somewhere. I'm sure there was a time that you all didn't know what raw denim was either. We are all here to teach and subsequently learn.

      well played sir... but im not saying i know everything. i just think some people jumped into it rather quickly without knowing a few things first.

    17. 04-14-2007 12:01 AM #67
      what do they need to know though? raw denim > washed denim. simple as that.

    18. 04-14-2007 12:07 AM #68
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      what do they need to know though? raw denim > washed denim. simple as that.

      not all dry denim needs to be soaked is one of the things that comes to mind

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      04-14-2007 12:13 AM #69
      Quote, originally posted by dub-ghord &raquo;
      well played sir... but im not saying i know everything. i just think some people jumped into it rather quickly without knowing a few things first.

      I hear you, but some people learned to swim by being thrown in the deep end of the pool, and it's going to happen in every facet of life. We just have to be patient and pull those out that jump in on their own before learning to swim.
      **I think I used that metaphor quite well, and after reading it was quite suprised I still have the ability to think this late into a Friday evening***
      Anyway, I looked at the STFs and colorwise they look fine, and from visually looking at them and holding up to my body, they don't seem to have shrunk one bit!! Funny thing, they are stiff as hell now. Stiffer than my APCs were new. I'm going to buy another pair tomorrow to compare color side by side. Again, just kind of learning and playing around with some cheapies. I really like the 'sheen' of the raw denim, so I'm curious to see a side by side difference.

      To all, the weekend is upon us!!

    20. 04-14-2007 01:23 AM #70
      ok i'm probably going to get totally flamed here after reading all these posts (or maybe not?) but, first i thank everyone for the info, i've read it all and i'm learning. i accidentilly bought some sort of raw denim i think today, nothing special just some 501's, but i found them online as being "raw" so....i dont know what to do.they're not skin tight, actually perfectly comfy, and i'm totally down to not wash em as long as they stay rigid.
      my question is with levis, since they're cheaper jeans ($36 on salee to be exact) do i need to follow such strict guidelines? soaking right away or something? i've even read about people showering with them on and letting them dry on them to dry to their body. im not planning on washing and drying them, maybe a warm wash followed by some starch and air drying once every 2 weeks? i just hate when jeans get saggy. thanks guys, all the info is really good


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      04-14-2007 01:43 AM #71
      i agree with dub-ghord and cam separately. what i think is wrong is the bigger picture - limited shoes, raw denim, rare shirts/"big" small companies, etc etc. people are jumping on this because kids who are doing it are getting hyped up and dudes are feeling left out. it's amazing to see all these guys have multiple pairs of raw denim over the course of a few months, when before they were wearing cargos and old navy tees. it's the drastic change that's got me thinking... i'm absolutely not calling anyone out here, i just believe there's a big difference between following a trend and being a poseur.

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      04-14-2007 01:52 AM #72
      Quote, originally posted by sej683s &raquo;
      so, is that the look you are going for? sorry, cant see any other pics here at work... i guess i just dont get it. the OP's look good IMO, but these just don't look right how they fall on his shoes/etc. im pretty much as much out of the fashion loop as it gets tho.

      that picture isn't me, it's my buddy. he likes his **** skinny and can pull it off. i don't think anyones got a chiller style than him.

      cuso - if you can get an original style hem then do it! i've only been to one place long ago and they royally ****ed me.

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      04-14-2007 02:24 AM #73
      i've always been a fan of heavyweight/stiff denim, i just was never really able to come into contact with anything other than STF's. i knew about selvedge, but not much, and i really didn;t know anything about soaking or not washing or whatever. i just always hated paper thin denim, and levi's are the only jeans that i really like the fit.
      the fact the denim is 'trendier' means it's more accessible, which is both a good and a bad thing.
      i still don;t know a ton about denim, and i really don;t give a ****. i know how i like my pants to fit, and i'm starting to venture out and try different companies because i can find them, now. :shrug:
      but don;t get me started on the nike/"shoe-game" bull****.

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      04-14-2007 10:06 AM #74
      Quote, originally posted by monosylabik &raquo;
      that picture isn't me, it's my buddy. he likes his **** skinny and can pull it off. i don't think anyones got a chiller style than him.

      Quote, originally posted by Dreizehn &raquo;
      That's what many people in here dress like. It's a style. I certainly don't agree with it but it's all relative to each person, so I've come to understand that. So should you.

      i wasnt knocking the dude. i was just trying to clarify that that was what people were going for. i really dont care how people dress, im just trying to "broaden my horizons". honestly, that dude reminds me of what guys dressed like in europe while i was growing up/living there. but thats just because we got the 80's late and people in the east didnt even get jeans until like 1990
      dreizehn, i also agree with you on the shoes thing. i wear a 12 and i am pretty picky about how my jeans lay on my shoes. i could NEVER pull that style off.

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      04-14-2007 10:36 AM #75
      Id wear those Levis till you cant anymore then throw em out..
      In my experience they turn to **** when washed... think mid-west fashion

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