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  1. 04-19-2007 08:06 AM #1
    Lots of peeps are doing the powergasket..so i thought i'd post a DIY...didn't take any pics..but if you look at the car it's pretty straightforward...this mod does work..intake mani on my car stays cool after driving it hard....

    Here is my quick DIY for you....

    tools needed:
    5mm long T- handle allen head key
    7mm allen key
    short 5mm allen head key
    10mm deep socket and ratchet and extension
    flat head screwdriver
    extendable magnet
    string
    clamp to replace the one on the intake mani on the right side

    Disconnect battery
    Open gas cap to release pressure
    Take engine cover off
    take the front engine cover off
    disconnect your fuel pressure regulator
    take off your intake hose from your throttle body
    cut the one time use clamp from the tube that goes into the right side of the intake manifold, the one that branches..you only need to take that one off...have a clamp to replace it.
    under the front engine cover there are 3 allen head bolts..two 5mm and one 7mm holding the front bracket to the manifold - remove
    loosen the metal tray that holds the oil dipstick, lift it up and unclip the dipstick bracket
    Under the throttle body is a small rubber hose that may need to be disconnected...can be squeezed and pulled out.
    The fuel rail has a black strip holding the wires to the rail..look at it and unclip it from the rail..this give you acccess to the two 5mm fuel rail allen bolts...
    using the magnet at the same time you use the 5mm allen to take those 2 bolts out...if you don't use a magnet you WILL drop them
    Once the rail is loose...unclip the fuel injectors, and then pull the whole rail up pulling the injectors out of their seats...take some string and tie the rail up at a 45 degree angle to the hood clip..it needs to be out of the way.
    now take your 10mm deep socket and remove the 2 10mm nuts on the bottom front corners of the manifold where it mounts to the head..again, use the magnet at the same time so you don't drop them.
    Use the long T-Handle 5mm allen ket to then remove the rest of the manifold bolts..again..USE THE MAGNET!!!

    Once all those are out..the manifold should come away from the head..just pull it off the 2 front studs..slide the old gasket out..and then put the new power gasket back on. Have a friend hold the manifold away while you do this.
    then re-install the reverse of removal...i'd use the magnet to put the bolts back and and try to start them...so you don't drop them.

    When putting the injectors back in push them till there is resistance...when you put the 2 bolts back in and tighten them back down it will seat the injectors fine.

    Make sure you re-connect everything and put all the bolts back...the manifold bolts can just be hand tightened, i used about 80% of my strength so as not to strip them...

    not having any idea what i was doing me and a freind got this done in about an hour and 15 minutes.

    Dan


    Modified by JettaManDan at 1:32 PM 5-2-2007


    Modified by JettaManDan at 9:21 AM 7-30-2007

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  2. 04-19-2007 09:48 AM #2
    Nice Writeup!

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    04-19-2007 12:04 PM #3
    you forgot:

    Remove gas cap to release pressure in fuel system.

    Maybe I am old school but I have always done that when working on anything involving the fuel system.


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    04-19-2007 12:05 PM #4
    Quote, originally posted by 3ur0Tra$h »
    you forgot:

    Remove gas cap to release pressure in fuel system.

    Maybe I am old school but I have always done that when working on anything involving the fuel system.

    fuel in yo face ftl


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    04-19-2007 12:09 PM #5
    Quote, originally posted by SAVwKO »

    fuel in yo face ftl

    try brake clean or gum cutter in "yo eye" that SUCKS. Eye teared for almost 2 days, my girlfriend loved it "It is nice to know my man is sensative" LOL


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    04-19-2007 03:09 PM #6
    Did you install the newer Powergasket that seals itself or something like that? I remember them coming out with a newer revision of it.

  7. 04-19-2007 03:53 PM #7
    never took off the gas cap..had no issues..still a good tip...

    the powergasket plus is the newer one and does not require a sealant...it is a fiberous material that crushes a little bit i think and seals well...have had no issues....

    Dan

    Am I OG status yet? Close to 40 years old and still driving a slammed and Boosted 'Dub...cool or sad?

  8. 04-19-2007 03:57 PM #8
    weren't there some issues a while back and the dangers of the power gasket to the engine??? I don't remember for sure, but I thought I read that somewhere

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    04-19-2007 04:39 PM #9
    Quote, originally posted by skibum525 »
    weren't there some issues a while back and the dangers of the power gasket to the engine??? I don't remember for sure, but I thought I read that somewhere

    Older spacer gaskets were melting. I don't know if it was the Powergasket or another brand though. I believe it has been taken care of in newer versions.

    JMD, what are your thoughts about the product since you installed it?


  10. 04-19-2007 07:05 PM #10
    the older power gasket melted on some cars on BT ones specificially...and then casued issues...

    so far i am very happy...have tested it several times..hard boost run and then popping the hood..and the mani is cool...can't give any better endorsement..seems a tad longer before heat soak sets in....not really much else to say...combine this with a front mount and you will have the coolest intake charge you can get..and "preserve" all the power you can make...

    Am I OG status yet? Close to 40 years old and still driving a slammed and Boosted 'Dub...cool or sad?

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    04-19-2007 07:07 PM #11
    what abotu pics, i like pics

  12. 04-19-2007 07:29 PM #12
    Quote, originally posted by _leo_ »
    what abotu pics, i like pics

    don't have any...sorry......

    Am I OG status yet? Close to 40 years old and still driving a slammed and Boosted 'Dub...cool or sad?

  13. 05-02-2007 01:32 PM #13
    bump for others....
    Am I OG status yet? Close to 40 years old and still driving a slammed and Boosted 'Dub...cool or sad?

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    05-02-2007 05:22 PM #14
    Added to the DIY!
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    05-02-2007 06:39 PM #15

    I know its a little late but I installed my PowerGasket today and forgot the damn camera , so here is the OE gasket, and you can clearly see how thin and wimsy it is...NewSouth did a great job with the Plus in comparison...

    -J


  16. 07-29-2007 07:28 AM #16
    bump for people who were asking....
    Am I OG status yet? Close to 40 years old and still driving a slammed and Boosted 'Dub...cool or sad?

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    07-29-2007 09:48 PM #17
    i put one of these on my apr stage 3+ AE, no problems yet! its been on for about a month now! so far so good!

  18. 07-29-2007 10:20 PM #18
    what's the difference with the "power gasket" & "power gasket plus"?

  19. 07-29-2007 11:44 PM #19
    Quote, originally posted by 3ur0Tra$h »
    you forgot:

    Remove gas cap to release pressure in fuel system.

    Maybe I am old school but I have always done that when working on anything involving the fuel system.

    hahaha yea for sure...and disconnect batt. - if you open a door the injectors spurt some fuel all over


  20. 07-30-2007 09:21 AM #20
    Quote, originally posted by Blue20thAE »

    hahaha yea for sure...and disconnect batt. - if you open a door the injectors spurt some fuel all over

    yep...added.....i just kept the door shut

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  21. 07-30-2007 09:25 AM #21
    Quote, originally posted by shred_65 »
    what's the difference with the "power gasket" & "power gasket plus"?

    powergasket plus is a different material from the orginal...can take higher temps and does not require sealant...

    Am I OG status yet? Close to 40 years old and still driving a slammed and Boosted 'Dub...cool or sad?

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    07-30-2007 10:35 AM #22
    Quote, originally posted by 3ur0Tra$h »

    try brake clean or gum cutter in "yo eye" that SUCKS. Eye teared for almost 2 days, my girlfriend loved it "It is nice to know my man is sensative" LOL

    Yeah sensitive to brake cleaner. Spary some in her eye and call here an "overly sensitive wowan" for the next to days...


  23. 03-28-2008 05:02 PM #23
    I recently did this, but the support bolt for the front of the intake manifold will not go in because the powergasket is thicker than the OE gasket, so the intake is a raised and no longer in line with the holes, how do you fix this issue?

  24. 03-28-2008 05:46 PM #24
    nice write up!

  25. 03-28-2008 05:56 PM #25
    Just spoke to a support person on NewSouth Performance who confirmed what my mech said, which was the widen the hole for the support bolt.

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    03-28-2008 05:57 PM #26
    The fix is to enlarge the hole in the bracket just enough so that the bolt will slide in and then everything should line up properly.
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  27. 03-28-2008 10:54 PM #27
    i never had a problem with the support bolt...wierd...
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    03-31-2008 02:05 PM #28
    This was a mod I was looking at doing, but isn't this gasket working against you. Yeah the intake mani stays a little cooler, but at what price. If no or little heat is transfering into the intake mani, then it all is being held in the head. The intake mani serves as an outlet for all of that heat, and now it is being trapped in?

    Just my .02


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    03-31-2008 02:19 PM #29
    Quote, originally posted by Boosted96GSX »
    This was a mod I was looking at doing, but isn't this gasket working against you. Yeah the intake mani stays a little cooler, but at what price. If no or little heat is transfering into the intake mani, then it all is being held in the head. The intake mani serves as an outlet for all of that heat, and now it is being trapped in?

    Just my .02

    ohh, are we on to something here?


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    04-02-2008 03:47 PM #30
    Quote, originally posted by Boosted96GSX »
    This was a mod I was looking at doing, but isn't this gasket working against you. Yeah the intake mani stays a little cooler, but at what price. If no or little heat is transfering into the intake mani, then it all is being held in the head. The intake mani serves as an outlet for all of that heat, and now it is being trapped in?

    Just my .02

    We were concerned about that also as we developed the PowerGasket.

    1. The head does is not designed to be cooled by the intake manifold
    2. The head is designed to be cooled with antifreeze in your radiator system. With coolant flow of 10-20 GPM, the head does not need the intake manifold for cooling.

    Our testing also showed that the head temperature did not change when a PowerGasket was installed.

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  31. 04-02-2008 07:44 PM #31
    there is absolutely no way the intake mani is designed as a heat sink for the head....if it was, it would have cooling vanes all over it...so how do you explain the MK5 2 liter turbo's with plastic intake manifolds? or VR'S with plastic intake manifolds? so they aren't being cooled then? sorry...but that was the most ridiculous thought i have heard on vortex in a while....the truth is that the cooled air going into the head does more for the heat issues than the heat being transferred out...if the intake mani is hot, and the head is hot..guess what? the intake charge is hot and cools nothing....but with a cool intake mani the air going into the cylinder head is cooler and keeps that cooler in turn....do me favor and take your intercooler out of your car and run a straight metal pipe to your intake mani, becasue hell, the pipes are connected and it must not be drawing enough heat from the head with it in there...right? i don't rant often..but geez that was dumb as hell....

    thanks steve for your informed explanation of how a head is trully cooled


    Modified by JettaManDan at 7:48 PM 4-2-2008

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    04-02-2008 11:08 PM #32
    correct me if i'm wrong,

    steve said "" Our testing also showed that the head temperature did not change when a PowerGasket was installed.""

    SO that means the powergasket is a Gimmick?

    Yes or no?


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    04-02-2008 11:35 PM #33
    Quote, originally posted by 1.8Tjettta01 »
    correct me if i'm wrong,

    steve said "" Our testing also showed that the head temperature did not change when a PowerGasket was installed.""

    SO that means the powergasket is a Gimmick?

    Yes or no?

    its not supposed to keep the head cooler, its supposed to keep the intake mainfold cooler


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    04-02-2008 11:55 PM #34
    Alright thanks, i just read it backwards. no worries. thank you.

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    04-03-2008 07:54 AM #35
    Wow hope you feel better

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