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    Thread: *** Official iPhone thread - PLEASE KEEP GENERAL IPHONE CHIT-CHAT IN THIS THREAD ***

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      04-24-2007 02:48 PM #1
      This thread will serve as the official iPhone thread. All other threads will be locked and pointed to this thread, or merged up. Please post all iPhone questions, comments, links, etc. in this thread.

      Official Apps thread: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4868371

      Please note: this is NOT a PC vs. MAC thread. Some leway in relevant discussion is allowed if it specifically relates to one platform or the other vis a vis the iPhone, but outside of that all PC vs MAC posts will be deleted.


      Modified by iThread at 9:11 AM 4-28-2010


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      06-21-2007 08:56 AM #2



      Modified by robbyb413 at 6:51 PM 11/13/2007

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      06-21-2007 11:04 AM #3
      lol, i saw that on engadget.com this morning, and lolled.


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      06-21-2007 02:07 PM #4
      Boy...That's hilarious.

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      06-21-2007 03:08 PM #5
      Quote, originally posted by passatrcr »
      Boy...That's hilarious.

      Shouldn't you be camped out in front of the Apple Store right now?


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      06-21-2007 04:26 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by passatrcr »
      Boy...That's hilarious.

      Hey guys, easy... the federal govermnent has raised us to thread level yellow as people realize how much they are about to pay for another iProduct


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      06-21-2007 05:25 PM #7
      Quote, originally posted by ROCK AND ROLL CHEVY »
      Shouldn't you be camped out in front of the Apple Store right now?

      Quote, originally posted by robbyb413 »
      Hey guys, easy... the federal govermnent has raised us to thread level yellow as people realize how much they are about to pay for another iProduct

      You should take your acts on the road, seriously. Your both a riot.

      Maybe I should spend my time camped in front of an Apple store so I can get one. At least then I can make an intelligent opinion, rather than "e-evaluating" on something nobody has yet and is pretty much speculation as to how well it's really going to work.

      No, I won't be getting one. It's not where I need it to be to be worthwhile. Maybe the next rev it'll be there. But at least I'm mature enough to look at the phone for it's specs, and not what logo is on it.


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      06-21-2007 10:56 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by passatrcr »

      You should take your acts on the road, seriously. Your both a riot.

      Maybe I should spend my time camped in front of an Apple store so I can get one. At least then I can make an intelligent opinion, rather than "e-evaluating" on something nobody has yet and is pretty much speculation as to how well it's really going to work.

      No, I won't be getting one. It's not where I need it to be to be worthwhile. Maybe the next rev it'll be there. But at least I'm mature enough to look at the phone for it's specs, and not what logo is on it.

      Calm down. It's responses of that type that get people labeled as a Fanboy.

      But really: it's GSM. It can have all the features in the world, but in the US it's barely going to be able to make calls. Even if it can it will still not sound as good as CDMA phones. Why do the other features matter? It's a phone.


      Modified by robbyb413 at 11:19 PM 6/21/2007


    9. 06-22-2007 12:11 AM #9
      What's the iPhone?
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    10. 06-22-2007 12:47 AM #10
      Quote, originally posted by robbyb413 »

      But really: it's GSM. It can have all the features in the world, but in the US it's barely going to be able to make calls. Even if it can it will still not sound as good as CDMA phones. Why do the other features matter? It's a phone.


      THat is the most idiotic statement ever.

      Sounds like you've bought into the CDMA propaganda


      Modified by tmerc at 11:00 PM 6-21-2007


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      06-22-2007 09:08 AM #11
      Quote, originally posted by robbyb413 »

      Calm down. It's responses of that type that get people labeled as a Fanboy.

      But really: it's GSM. It can have all the features in the world, but in the US it's barely going to be able to make calls. Even if it can it will still not sound as good as CDMA phones. Why do the other features matter? It's a phone.

      Uh oh, it looks like you've riled up not only the Mac fanboys, but the GSM fanboys as well


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      06-22-2007 10:06 AM #12
      Quote, originally posted by tmerc »

      THat is the most idiotic statement ever.
      Sounds like you've bought into the CDMA propaganda

      Propaganda? That's awfully assumptive. The fact is I've owned GSM and CDMA phones. They both pull comprable coverage in the city, but when you try to use them out in the hills or in less dense parts of the country the network just isn't there when you're using a GSM phone. I like to make calls with as much clarity and consitency when I'm in the middle of my office building in Cambridge, when I'm at the ski resorts, and when I'm out in Western Massachusetts and GSM networks just arn't at that point. Even when I am in the city I have a much better CDMA signal and the voice quality is superior. Most people can't claim to have had both types of provider, but I can. Don't lump me in with the proles who bandwagon onto the coolest trend or the latest series of commericals.

      [edited for a glaring gramatical error]


      Modified by robbyb413 at 10:07 AM 6/22/2007


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      06-22-2007 10:12 AM #13
      ive had both and i get better reception in general with gsm.

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      06-22-2007 11:38 AM #14
      I travel all over the country and rarely have any reception problems with my ATT (formerly Cingular) GSM phones. I get reception at even some of the most remote racetracks. Ask anyone how well Verizon works at Lime Rock compared to Cingular.

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      06-22-2007 11:44 AM #15
      I usually get better reception with my GSM phone than my friends with Verizon.

      Then again, it all depends on where you are. Is it really worth fighting about? Get what works best for you.

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      06-22-2007 01:28 PM #16
      gsm has alot more limitations then CDMA, theres no getting around it.

      however, like i told everyone, if you can reliably make and receive calls, no reason to switch


    17. 06-23-2007 05:03 PM #17
      iDEN > CDMA > GSM if you're talking about reception retention

    18. 06-23-2007 05:14 PM #18
      Regardless of whether CDMA or GSM gets better reception (it varies by area anyways) this is not 3G and yet it's a data device thus it's as useless as a 3rd nipple.

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      06-23-2007 08:00 PM #19
      Quote, originally posted by teriba »
      Regardless of whether CDMA or GSM gets better reception (it varies by area anyways) this is not 3G and yet it's a data device thus it's as useless as a 3rd nipple.

      and you know this how??


    20. 06-23-2007 11:04 PM #20
      Quote, originally posted by teriba »
      Regardless of whether CDMA or GSM gets better reception (it varies by area anyways) this is not 3G and yet it's a data device thus it's as useless as a 3rd nipple.


      Have you ever dated a chick with a 3rd nipple? Hot, I'll just leave it at that.


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      06-24-2007 01:22 PM #21
      I think once it's out for a week it'll be forgotten and the "cool" factor will fade....it's simply not in the same game changing sphere as the ipod was for music, the i phone doesn't do anything new as far as phones go...it's just a sleek looking pda.

      beh...


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      06-24-2007 02:23 PM #22
      Quote, originally posted by hugoaswho »
      I think once it's out for a week it'll be forgotten and the "cool" factor will fade....it's simply not in the same game changing sphere as the ipod was for music, the i phone doesn't do anything new as far as phones go...it's just a sleek looking pda.

      beh...

      Thats a little short. I'll give it maybe a year. You'll need to allow at&t to offer (which the will eventually have to) discounts since the initial price to play is steep. Plus over time (hopefully) someone will hack it so you can load real 3rd party apps on it. Then it will become popular.

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    23. 06-24-2007 02:36 PM #23
      Quote, originally posted by 16v »

      and you know this how??

      Because it's a dog slow connection?


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      06-24-2007 05:33 PM #24
      Yeah, known fact that the first generation of iPhone doesn't have high-speed data capabilities. But it won't be long before it's available as well as on other carriers. Verizon is scheduled to get it in 2015.
      I always plug in USBs right the first time.

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      06-24-2007 05:54 PM #25
      Quote, originally posted by theevilshiftkey »
      Yeah, known fact that the first generation of iPhone doesn't have high-speed data capabilities. But it won't be long before it's available as well as on other carriers. Verizon is scheduled to get it in 2015.

      LOL, well it will at least get new features.... like additional thickness and the kick ass verizon interface

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      06-24-2007 08:13 PM #26
      Verizon will also let you play Bejeweled on it for just $5/month. That's going to rock! Take that AT&T!
      I always plug in USBs right the first time.

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      06-24-2007 09:30 PM #27
      Quote, originally posted by teriba »

      Because it's a dog slow connection?

      and you know how that will play out on the iphone based on??

      Point being, until youve tried it i dont see how you can pass judgement.


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      06-24-2007 09:51 PM #28
      Quote, originally posted by 16v »

      and you know how that will play out on the iphone based on??

      Point being, until youve tried it i dont see how you can pass judgement.

      because it is on a slow connection...

      Anyway, should be interesting to see the price plan set out for the iPhone and whether or not AT&T forces a data plan on the end user


      Modified by green tea at 6:53 PM 6-24-2007


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      06-24-2007 11:37 PM #29
      Quote, originally posted by green tea »

      because it is on a slow connection...

      Again, having not used this device how can you pass judgement on the user exprience??


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      06-25-2007 12:54 AM #30
      Quote, originally posted by green tea »

      Anyway, should be interesting to see the price plan set out for the iPhone and whether or not AT&T forces a data plan on the end user

      Oh, c'mon, of course they will, or at least they certainly will try. This is a profit-driven company answering to shareholders, after all.

      It seems the government is currently saying, "While we're conducting this unspecified, unwarranted surveillance, we're totally thinking about how to not violate the 4th Amendment that we're currently violating. Because terrorism."

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      06-25-2007 01:11 AM #31
      Quote, originally posted by DonL »
      This is a profit-driven company answering to shareholders, after all.

      So yeah people, go out and buy for my stake.


    32. 06-25-2007 01:44 AM #32
      I have some reservations about this phone. It's not 3G capable. How good is it at receiving over-the-air streaming video (not uploaded iTunes) ? If it's as easy to scratch as the iPod, then that's a little bit of a problem for me, especially with the $600 price tag. I'm also curious about the monthly service cost. I'll look into it once the hype goes down a bit BTW, what's the battery life on that thing and is it user-replaceable or forever sealed? So many questions, so few answers...so many dollars

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      06-25-2007 11:42 AM #33
      Quote, originally posted by QuackDuck »
      If it's as easy to scratch as the iPod, then that's a little bit of a problem for me, especially with the $600 price tag.
      BTW, what's the battery life on that thing and is it user-replaceable or forever sealed? So many questions, so few answers...so many dollars

      apparently it's going to made with optical glass, so less scratches, they say. we'll see, i guess.

      and battery life is said to be 8 hours of talk time, 6 hours of internet, and 7 of video playback.

      the battery is sealed, like the ipod.


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      06-25-2007 12:28 PM #34
      Quote, originally posted by DonL »

      Oh, c'mon, of course they will, or at least they certainly will try.

      way to sum up what i questioned chief


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      06-25-2007 09:53 PM #35
      Quote, originally posted by hugoaswho »
      I think once it's out for a week it'll be forgotten and the "cool" factor will fade....it's simply not in the same game changing sphere as the ipod was for music, the i phone doesn't do anything new as far as phones go...it's just a sleek looking pda.

      beh...

      multi-touchscreen
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      How many of those things have previously been offered, simultaneously, in a phone?


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