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    1. 10-01-2012 09:06 PM #16201
      Quote Originally Posted by Das Pike View Post
      FYI Verizon users, update fixes mobile data use on WiFi bug.

      http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/01/v...-data-bug-fix/
      There are reports of similar issue over at AT&T:

      http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/01/tech...-data-overage/

      People seem to be so surprised they are going over, whether or not affected by the bug, one word, LTE - sure, it is super fast, so is data consumption.

      Status check, almost 9GB used so far, and about half way to go in my billing period. $29.99 unlimited data plan ftw

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      10-02-2012 02:37 PM #16202
      Are you on AT&T? And they haven't throttled you? I hit 5GB a few times and they hit me a few times

      Regarding the new Maps, I used it yesterday along with Siri and turn by turn. Decided to test it out and see how well it directed my commute home so I said, "Siri, take me home."

      Though I don't have a mount for my phone, I placed it in my shirt pocket so I could hear Siri. It detected all the streets, gave ample time before each turn and decent range in approach; even pronounced the exit names correctly. I picked it up here and there to look on the map where it placed my car and it was spot on. Street names were correct but some landmarks were missing and/or out of date. Granted the entire drive was per-meditated and I knew where I was going, but overall I'd say it did a well enough job.

      Would I use it on a long trip? Probably not.
      Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Just not their own facts.

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      10-02-2012 05:39 PM #16203
      Quote Originally Posted by Das Pike View Post
      Are you on AT&T? And they haven't throttled you? I hit 5GB a few times and they hit me a few times

      Regarding the new Maps, I used it yesterday along with Siri and turn by turn. Decided to test it out and see how well it directed my commute home so I said, "Siri, take me home."

      Though I don't have a mount for my phone, I placed it in my shirt pocket so I could hear Siri. It detected all the streets, gave ample time before each turn and decent range in approach; even pronounced the exit names correctly. I picked it up here and there to look on the map where it placed my car and it was spot on. Street names were correct but some landmarks were missing and/or out of date. Granted the entire drive was per-meditated and I knew where I was going, but overall I'd say it did a well enough job.

      Would I use it on a long trip? Probably not.
      5GB? Really? Hell, I've gotten two texts (one on 9/2 & one on 9/27) telling me I've exceded 3GB. Limiting 'unlimited'? Really?
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      10-02-2012 08:24 PM #16204
      Quote Originally Posted by Das Pike View Post
      Would I use it on a long trip? Probably not.
      Waze is where it's at for long trips. Saved a buddy's ass headed to Ocean City this past weekend since someone tagged a cop hiding behind some trees ahead. I use it everyday.

    5. 10-02-2012 08:59 PM #16205
      Quote Originally Posted by Das Pike View Post
      Are you on AT&T? And they haven't throttled you? I hit 5GB a few times and they hit me a few times
      Verizon.

      Unlimited is unlimited. There would be no reasons for carriers to remind you your data usage for unlimited plans. I have not gotten one msg from Verizon regarding my data usage, nor I would want to Verizon to, since it is unlimited.

      On the other hand, it would be very beneficial to remind tiered data plan customers to be reminded of their usage, and I hope Verizon and other carriers are doing that by default so customers are jot surprised when they would go over.

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      10-02-2012 09:26 PM #16206
      AT&T clearly has their own definition of unlimited. last month, I hit more than 3GBs on my iPhone 4. I got the text saying that if it happens in the next month, they'd throttle my data. and within 5 days of having my iPhone 5, I get another message stating I was over the 5GB soft cap of my LTE plan. I'm definitely feeling the slowdown right now.

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      10-02-2012 10:23 PM #16207
      nobody should be surprised about being throttled on "unlimited" data plans.

      at the end of the day, it's a business.
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      10-03-2012 12:54 AM #16208
      I'm having a problem with my iPhone 4, tried going to the telus store where I got it, they had no idea, tried taking it to a guy that does cell phone repairs (a sign in the window claimed he "specializes" in iphone repairs), and no one has ever heard of the phone acting like this.

      So here it is, its doing a few strange things. First, I noticed when I go into my contacts, and go into an individual contact, the "edit" button that should be in the top right corner is no longer there. So I cannot edit contact information. As a result, I have multiple contacts in there for quite a few people, as they have changed phone numbers, email addresses, etc. I don't know exactly when this happened, but I first noticed it sometime after I had updated to ios5. I am currently running ios6.

      Another strange thing, is in the "Mail, Contacts, Calendars" menu, under "My Info", it has the contact for some random people in my phone. I tried to switch it back to my name, but when I did that, it wouldn't display ANY of my contacts. They all disappeared. When I switched back "My Info" to my name, all of the sudden they all came back.

      Another thing is the bluetooth appears to not be working anymore either. It was working fine, I had it paired with the stereo in my truck as well as a motorolla roadster in my work vehicle until a few weeks ago when although it said it was paired, wouldn't work.

      Does anyone have any idea what might be going on with it? Its out of warranty, and the nearest Apple store is a few hours away to go there and get them to look at it, but I am thinking I might end up having to do that.

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      10-03-2012 01:13 AM #16209
      and you've restored it?

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      10-03-2012 01:56 AM #16210
      Apple's marketshare up 2.4 points in the latest round of data versus an increase of only 1.7 points for Google's Android.


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      10-03-2012 03:01 AM #16211
      Quote Originally Posted by joe97 View Post
      Verizon.

      Unlimited is unlimited. There would be no reasons for carriers to remind you your data usage for unlimited plans. I have not gotten one msg from Verizon regarding my data usage, nor I would want to Verizon to, since it is unlimited.

      On the other hand, it would be very beneficial to remind tiered data plan customers to be reminded of their usage, and I hope Verizon and other carriers are doing that by default so customers are jot surprised when they would go over.
      AT&T sends messages to tiered data users at 65%, 90%, and a final warning at 100%. People who claim to be surprised they've gone over are either being lied to by their kids or lying themselves.

      You've got two evils in the unlimited data thing between the two major carriers. One is telling customers that if they want a phone at subsidized pricing, they'll be forced to get rid of their unlimited data. The other is telling customers they can keep it; they'll just have to deal with a soft cap and throttling over a certain usage. Personal feelings dictate which is worse.

      I've always wondered how the hell people can regularly exceed 5GBs of data use in a month. I don't ever put my phone on wifi, watch at least a half-hour of Netflix or Hulu Plus daily, stream from Google Music for an hour or so, and have all my emails and notifications set to push and I've never gone over 3.8GBs.
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      10-03-2012 10:06 AM #16212
      Quote Originally Posted by SchrickVR6 View Post
      I've always wondered how the hell people can regularly exceed 5GBs of data use in a month. I don't ever put my phone on wifi, watch at least a half-hour of Netflix or Hulu Plus daily, stream from Google Music for an hour or so, and have all my emails and notifications set to push and I've never gone over 3.8GBs.
      I've heard of people trying to use their 3G connection to power their entire home network (playing Xbox Live on it, streaming Netflix instead of cable, etc). That, on top of whatever else they do on the phone when they're out and about. I'd imagine those are the people that the carriers are targeting.

      I currently have unlimited through a grandfathered Alltel plan (yes, Alltel ) and while I'm loathed to give it up on principal, I don't think it would honestly matter. I just checked and my wife and I average less than a GB a month and we both have all of the usual things hooked up (email, FB, maps, etc). A 5 GB limit would be no big deal at this point.
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    13. 10-03-2012 12:53 PM #16213
      Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
      Apple's marketshare up 2.4 points in the latest round of data versus an increase of only 1.7 points for Google's Android.

      Any latest data globally?

    14. 10-03-2012 01:06 PM #16214
      Quote Originally Posted by SchrickVR6 View Post
      I've always wondered how the hell people can regularly exceed 5GBs of data use in a month.
      It's actually not that hard, especially on the LTE network.

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      10-03-2012 01:18 PM #16215
      Quote Originally Posted by joe97 View Post
      It's actually not that hard, especially on the LTE network.
      Using the iPhone 4 on 3G, I never went over 2 GB/month. With the iPhone5 on LTE 85% of the time, I am at 2 GB after a week of usage.

      I don't watch any videos.. just fb, email, imessage, web browsing, and some streaming over spotify.

      Note, my LTE is so much faster than my wifi internet connection at home, so I have yet to connect to wifi.

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      10-03-2012 02:52 PM #16216
      Quote Originally Posted by Angina View Post
      Using the iPhone 4 on 3G, I never went over 2 GB/month. With the iPhone5 on LTE 85% of the time, I am at 2 GB after a week of usage.

      I don't watch any videos.. just fb, email, imessage, web browsing, and some streaming over spotify.

      Note, my LTE is so much faster than my wifi internet connection at home, so I have yet to connect to wifi.
      There's your problem...

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      10-03-2012 03:22 PM #16217
      Quote Originally Posted by joe97 View Post
      There are reports of similar issue over at AT&T:

      http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/01/tech...-data-overage/

      People seem to be so surprised they are going over, whether or not affected by the bug, one word, LTE - sure, it is super fast, so is data consumption.
      I wouldn't be surprised if this is shown to affect more carriers. I've noticed recently that if my phone goes into its low-power mode that when I wake it with the power button I see the 3G indicator for a few seconds before the wi-fi icon appears. That would lead me to believe that the whole time the phone is sitting there unattended that background tasks like checking email are happening over cellular data.
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      10-03-2012 03:39 PM #16218
      Quote Originally Posted by robr2 View Post
      There's your problem...
      actually i've done zero streaming over spotify with my iphone5 (i use an option for offline caching, meaning the songs I put in the playlist i listen to are cached so i don't need to stream).

      I'm guessing a lot of data was used when updating apps over LTE, rather than wifi.

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      10-03-2012 05:22 PM #16219
      Quote Originally Posted by bora.the.explora View Post
      and you've restored it?
      No not yet... how do I do that?

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      10-03-2012 06:00 PM #16220
      This is interesting

      http://www.examiner.com/article/coul...pulled-feature

      Verizon customers were treated to a carrier settings update on Sunday, one that was designed to eliminate a bug on the device, in which an iPhone 5 might have used Verizon cellular data while connected to a Wi-Fi network. There is speculation that the issue may be related to the "Wi-Fi Plus Cellular" feature that was found in iOS 6 betas, but that didn't make it to the final release.
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      10-04-2012 12:12 AM #16221
      Quote Originally Posted by F1_Fan View Post
      already discussed

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      10-04-2012 06:43 AM #16222
      Quote Originally Posted by F1_Fan View Post
      I wouldn't be surprised if this is shown to affect more carriers. I've noticed recently that if my phone goes into its low-power mode that when I wake it with the power button I see the 3G indicator for a few seconds before the wi-fi icon appears. That would lead me to believe that the whole time the phone is sitting there unattended that background tasks like checking email are happening over cellular data.
      This has always been the case. Wifi uses far more battery power in stand-by than cellular.
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      10-04-2012 10:18 AM #16223
      Quote Originally Posted by zhenya00 View Post
      This has always been the case. Wifi uses far more battery power in stand-by than cellular.
      And when you say "stand-by" you mean active but not actually connected to a network correct?

      I swear I used to turn off my WiFi when I came into work b/c the signal at my desk was ****ty compared to just using AT&T's 3G. But using the 3G seemed to drain the phone faster than if I was sitting on WiFi the whole day.

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      10-04-2012 04:43 PM #16224
      has anyone seen lines on their iphone5 screen...its like static horizontal lines.. it'll show up for a quick second and disappear..

      ive seen it on my phone and 2 of my friend's iphone5s...

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      10-04-2012 05:30 PM #16225
      Quote Originally Posted by zhenya00 View Post
      This has always been the case. Wifi uses far more battery power in stand-by than cellular.
      Hm. Interesting, I never knew my 4s did that. The 5 must come to life just a little quicker and now I see the 3G icon flicker.
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