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    Thread: *** Official iPhone thread - PLEASE KEEP GENERAL IPHONE CHIT-CHAT IN THIS THREAD ***

    1. 06-28-2007 04:26 PM #101
      whats the big thing.. its just a phone .. i'm not really getting this.. it reminds me of all the nerds waiting in line to see star wars..
      before you know it, it will be surpassed by something else, better looking smaller with more features ..

    2. 06-28-2007 04:35 PM #102
      Quote, originally posted by -YZ- »
      Really, I'll spare the get a life comments but it's a fuxing phone for xrist sakes!


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      06-28-2007 05:00 PM #103
      Quote, originally posted by -YZ- »
      Really, I'll spare the get a life comments but it's a fuxing phone for xrist sakes!

      Truly, I agree. However, wasn't there the same type of lines/prices for Xbox/Xbox360/PS2/PS3? Could be said "It's just a fuxing video game console for xrist sakes!"
      Toys, regardless of what they do (phone/vid console/etc.) are something people will always pay a $ or time premium for.

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      06-28-2007 06:22 PM #104
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      And for all the people getting paid to wait in line for someone, why not instead just buy two phones, then throw it on ebay?

      um maybe because you have to get a contract when you get the phone?

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      06-28-2007 06:46 PM #105
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      um maybe because you have to get a contract when you get the phone?

      Um, not really? All of the activation and plan selection is after your unboxing (which you have to photograph and post on flickr) in the privacy of you own home .. Unless you're going prepaid or need your hand held.

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      06-28-2007 07:23 PM #106
      Where are all the people that said the iPhone would be a failure and that nobody would buy one?

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      06-28-2007 07:23 PM #107
      Quote, originally posted by devnull »
      Um, not really? All of the activation and plan selection is after your unboxing (which you have to photograph and post on flickr) in the privacy of you own home .. Unless you're going prepaid or need your hand held.

      wait what? are you talking about just buying the phone outright?

    8. 06-28-2007 07:26 PM #108
      So can I go buy one, bring it home non-acitivated and toss it on eBay?

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      06-28-2007 07:30 PM #109
      Correct - it gets activated through iTunes at your house.
      Gentlemen, you had my curiosity. But now you have my attention.

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      06-28-2007 07:33 PM #110
      so you can buy it for the 2-year contract price of $500-$600, not activate it, and sell it on ebay and not be in contract and not have to pay the retail price on the phone?

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      06-28-2007 07:35 PM #111
      Well if you don't have to activate it at the AT&T or Apple store then it certainly seems that way doesn't it?
      Gentlemen, you had my curiosity. But now you have my attention.

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      06-28-2007 07:39 PM #112
      Quote, originally posted by Karma »
      Well if you don't have to activate it at the AT&T or Apple store then it certainly seems that way doesn't it?

      i guess so im still confused about this whole ordeal

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      06-28-2007 08:11 PM #114
      Quote, originally posted by c_rod44305 »
      so you can buy it for the 2-year contract price of $500-$600, not activate it, and sell it on ebay and not be in contract and not have to pay the retail price on the phone?

      Something tells me that if his steveness feels comfortable enough to loosen up ~ 15k iphones for Apple employees within the first month, store availability will be juuuuuuusssssttt fine. Sure there are going to be some suckers and not-so-bright OCD kids with poor impulse control that buy a $1500 iPhone on ebay the first day of launch or something ... but the professional line sitters and scalpers waiting in line will be in for a rude awakening if the market is absolutly flooded.
      Product launches these days have just got out of hand ... I remember waiting for the wii, most of the people in line had absolutly no interest in the device itself, or really knew what it was .. they were just going to flip it.
      So, I've got this stack of PS3's here ... $300 a piece, who wants em

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      06-28-2007 08:26 PM #115
      WSJ Interview with Steve Jobs
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      On the eve of the iPhone's debut, The Wall Street Journal posts a Q&A with Apple CEO Steve Jobs and AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson (paid subscription required). Update: Samples from a USAToday interview have also been included.
      The two talk about many topics ranging from reflecting on the iPhone launch to discussing the decision to stick with AT&T's EDGE, to speculating about how the iPhone will affect the companies. We post a highlight of some of the discussion here. Note that some responses have been paraphrased for brevity.
      WSJ: What do you both envision being added over time to the iPhone, in terms of access to ringtones through Cingular's (now rebranded AT&T) platform and maybe through some other manner, like turning your iTunes songs into ringtones?
      Mr. Jobs: As you may know, iTunes is now the number three distributor of music in the U.S., ahead of Amazon and Target and behind Best Buy and Wal-Mart, and obviously the largest online distributor of music in the world. Of course, you can play that music now on your iPhone. One might imagine a lot of things down the road.
      WSJ: Is one of those things offering music purchases and video purchases directly from the phone?
      Mr. Jobs: There's a lot of things you can imagine down the road.
      WSJ: [Editor's contraction: Why did you choose EDGE over 3G?]
      Mr. Jobs: [Paraphrased] Every AT&T Blackberry gets its mail over EDGE. EDGE is great for mail, and it works well for maps and a whole bunch of other stuff. Where you wish you had faster speed is…on a Web browser. It's good enough, but you wish it was a little faster. That's where sandwiching EDGE with Wi-Fi really makes sense because Wi-Fi is much faster than any 3G network.
      When we looked at 3G, the chipsets were not low-enough power for what we were looking for. They were not integrated enough, so they took up too much physical space. We cared a lot about battery life and we cared a lot about physical size. Down the road, I'm sure some of those tradeoffs will become more favorable towards 3G but as of now we think we made a pretty good doggone decision.
      WSJ: Did you make enough of these to meet demand?
      Mr. Jobs: [Paraphrased] We're building a fair number of them... we've built factories to build these things... but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it ain't enough.
      USAToday: What if you are sold out by Saturday? Will you let people buy them, and pick them up later?
      Mr. Jobs: No, you're going to have to come back in. When you start taking people's money and can't deliver the product, there are lots of legal issues. It's easier to disappoint people.
      USAToday: What about corporate e-mail? I understand that's an issue for many consumers, who may not be able to hook up to their company networks?
      Mr. Jobs: You'll be hearing more about this in the coming weeks. We have some pilots going with companies with names you'll recognize. This won't be a big issue.
      USAToday: [Editor's contraction: Now that you've done it with the iPhone, will you begin pre-announcing products more?]
      Mr. Jobs: [Paraphrased] I don't think we will. We did this because of the FCC certification process and because we had to have hundreds of people test it because it was going to be on a network. We had no choice but to do it the way we did it, and I'm glad we did it this way. It worked well, but most of the time, we will do what we normally do.
      Gentlemen, you had my curiosity. But now you have my attention.

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      06-28-2007 08:30 PM #116
      Quote, originally posted by c_rod44305 »
      so you can buy it for the out the door price of $500-$600,

      they are all the same price. activated, not activated, in pieces, etc.

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      06-28-2007 08:44 PM #117
      a doctor at my work is paying someone $20 bucks an hour plus money for food so the guy will stand in line for him. Maybe il get to see the phone on monday like omgz!

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      06-28-2007 10:07 PM #118
      Quote, originally posted by theevilshiftkey »
      But back to the price. Here are the high and low:
      $500 phone plus two years at 60/month= $1940
      $600 phone plus two years at 100/month= $3000

      That is the real kicker. No phone/mp3 player/video player is worth this kind of money. I don't care how great everybody thinks it is. This is a rip-off.

    19. 06-28-2007 11:11 PM #119
      yea, but can u buy it and flip it on ebay without being locked in for two years?

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      06-28-2007 11:17 PM #120
      Quote, originally posted by Texan_Brandon »
      yea, but can u buy it and flip it on ebay without being locked in for two years?

      Yes. You pay your $500 and take the phone home. You can then sell it on eBay to some sucker for an inflated price (if you do this, I hope you end up stuck with it until it costs you $50 in credit card interest), but if you want to *use* the phone you have to activate it.

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      06-28-2007 11:17 PM #121
      YES. i though this was covered?????

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      06-29-2007 01:18 AM #122
      Quote, originally posted by theevilshiftkey »
      In a year or less the next gen iPhone will come out, or Motorola will come out with a clone that does 3G... and those people are either going to be stuck, or they'll pay huge cancelation fees to get the next big thing.

      I would be fairly surprised if Apple doesn't have a plan set for that already. Upgrade program or something.

    23. 06-29-2007 03:11 AM #123
      Quote, originally posted by Karma »
      Jobs is giving an All Hands update to the entire Apple workforce tomorrow morning. He hasn't done that since 2001. This guy is really excited for this thing...

      2001? These pep talks/rallys are LOT more common that you have been led to believe.

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      06-29-2007 08:42 AM #124
      Apple says, "Rechargeable batteries have a limited number of charge cycles and may eventually need to be replaced."

      So does this mean once it can't be charged anymore, you have to send it back and you're without a phone until it's returned?
      Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Just not their own facts.

    25. 06-29-2007 10:41 AM #125
      Quote, originally posted by Das Pike »
      Apple says, "Rechargeable batteries have a limited number of charge cycles and may eventually need to be replaced."

      So does this mean once it can't be charged anymore, you have to send it back and you're without a phone until it's returned?

      Yeah probably. Same with the ipod. On the plus side apple is awesome at this. Fast shipping and quick turnaround time


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