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    Thread: Maintenance Schedule for the GTI 2.0 (scans from the manual)

    1. 05-21-2007 12:35 AM #1
      Scans from my US-spec 2007 GTI 2.0t manual:


      Modified by svander at 3:44 PM 10-25-2007

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      05-21-2007 06:04 AM #2
      FAQd.

      Thank you.


    3. 05-21-2007 08:15 AM #3
      sweet thanks!

      I'm going to just use this one as my '06 "GTI" (well, at least it came with a GTI) manual has about 5 models and engines to wade through


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      05-21-2007 09:43 AM #4
      Thanks!

      I gotta remember this thread for the 1,000,000 people who ask when to change their oil or spark plugs. You'd think people could/should read this on their own but oh well.


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      05-21-2007 10:28 AM #5
      Wow, the timing belt replacement interval for the 2.0T is 120,000 miles! They must have just figured this out... My 2006 manual does not mention when to change the belt.

    6. 05-21-2007 12:15 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by ssaffioti »
      Wow, the timing belt replacement interval for the 2.0T is 120,000 miles! They must have just figured this out... My 2006 manual does not mention when to change the belt.

      maybe it's a lifetime timing belt for the '06!


      j/k


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      05-21-2007 12:23 PM #7
      good thread.
      quite frankly, i'm surprised you didn't make it into a pdf.

    8. 05-21-2007 12:35 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by adROCK319 »
      quite frankly, i'm surprised you didn't make it into a pdf.

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      05-21-2007 12:50 PM #9
      It's safe to assume they use one schedule for the entire fleet?

      I noticed the 5.0 TDI in there.

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    10. 05-21-2007 03:05 PM #10
      Quote, originally posted by adROCK319 »
      good thread.
      quite frankly, i'm surprised you didn't make it into a pdf.

      actually, i was going to, but i figured it'd be easier to read this way, since there aren't that many sheets.


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      05-21-2007 04:31 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by syntrix »
      It's safe to assume they use one schedule for the entire fleet?

      I noticed the 5.0 TDI in there.

      I would think so, what with the V8 TDI, 3.6L FSI and the 4.2L engine mentioned. I think it may also include the City Jetta in Canada (when it says 2.0L Canada only).


    12. 05-21-2007 05:45 PM #12
      Wait, this might be dumb, but does that mean oil changes are every 10k miles once you get past the first 10k miles? Or does that just not mention that you should still get one every 5k? I'm sure my car will let me know when I need my next oil change but I'd be pretty stoked if I was good for another 8k miles (I just had the 10k service done a couple months ago)...

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      05-21-2007 05:51 PM #13
      my dealer insists on oil changes every 5K... so far I been in for 5, 10, 15 and 20

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      05-21-2007 05:56 PM #14
      Quote, originally posted by ZGerman »
      Wait, this might be dumb, but does that mean oil changes are every 10k miles once you get past the first 10k miles? Or does that just not mention that you should still get one every 5k? I'm sure my car will let me know when I need my next oil change but I'd be pretty stoked if I was good for another 8k miles (I just had the 10k service done a couple months ago)...

      Your car may or may not tell you when your next change is due, and it may or may not be right when it does. If you read the schedule you'll see that oil changes are required every 10,000 miles. However my dealer set my car to message me at 15,000 cause they want the extra business.


    15. 05-21-2007 06:01 PM #15
      Go figure... I guess after having only American vehicles, I was just accustomed to getting oil changes every 3-5k miles.

    16. 05-21-2007 08:20 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by syntrix »
      It's safe to assume they use one schedule for the entire fleet?

      I noticed the 5.0 TDI in there.

      from what i can tell, all us-spec 2007 vw cars, but the beetle.


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      05-21-2007 08:33 PM #17
      Not surprising, but it doesn't make any sense, nor coincide with the information we got at the dealer. Take spark plugs for example on a 2.0T. Don't replace until 60K....then again at 80K and twice at 120K. The last schedule I read at the dealer said replace @ 20K, 60K, 100K, etc...Dust/pollen filter replace @ 40K, 80K and 100K. Is it every 20 or 40K miles? Make up your mind Vw. I wish they would make one clear, concise list that made some kind of apparent sense, and was actually coherent from the owners manual, to online schedules, to dealership schedules.


      BTW, I replaced a 2.0T timing belt last week @ 74K miles, and I definitely wouldn't wait until 120...it's easy for them to say 120K when they won't be footing the bill if it breaks at 100. With plastic impeller water pumps, it's probably a moot point anyway.


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      05-21-2007 10:25 PM #19
      Quote, originally posted by veedubtek »
      BTW, I replaced a 2.0T timing belt last week @ 74K miles, and I definitely wouldn't wait until 120...it's easy for them to say 120K when they won't be footing the bill if it breaks at 100. With plastic impeller water pumps, it's probably a moot point anyway.

      How did the belt look? How many hours work to replace it on the 2.0T? Seems like it is very hard to reach. I've never replaced a timing belt before.


    20. 05-21-2007 10:29 PM #20
      Quote, originally posted by ssaffioti »
      How did the belt look? How many hours work to replace it on the 2.0T? Seems like it is very hard to reach. I've never replaced a timing belt before.

      Its very similar to a Mk4 2.0 t-belt, which is only a little different than a mk3 t-belt. The part that makes mk4 and mk5 a little trickier is the engine mount... you need to use a jack (and 2x4) to support the engine while you remove the mount... then you'll need to jack the engine up a little to help you reach the bolts.

      If you've never done a t-belt before... I'd say at least 4hrs. But I did the last t-belt on my mk4 in about 2hrs (including water pump).

      As previous poster mentioned... the water pump has a plastic impeller. As many past vw owners found, these break into little pieces. When you do the t-belt... DEFINITELY replace your water pump... and DEFINITELY get the upgraded one with metal impeller

      I plan on doing a t-belt DIY when I do mine. I figure with my current mileage, I'll be one of the first on here to have to do it... (38k miles now, prolly do the t-belt between 70k and 80k).


      Modified by digitalhippie at 10:34 PM 5-21-2007


    21. 05-21-2007 11:20 PM #21
      Quote, originally posted by veedubtek »

      BTW, I replaced a 2.0T timing belt last week @ 74K miles, and I definitely wouldn't wait until 120...it's easy for them to say 120K when they won't be footing the bill if it breaks at 100. With plastic impeller water pumps, it's probably a moot point anyway.

      i'm definitely not waiting until 120k...i know on the b5, vw recommended 105k for the timing belt, but there have been multiple documented failures under that, with quite a few not much past 60k.


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      05-21-2007 11:25 PM #22
      Quote, originally posted by digitalhippie »
      Its very similar to a Mk4 2.0 t-belt,



      However, the mount sucks to remove in a mk5. Repair manual says to remove axles, exhaust, and a/c lines to safely lift the engine enough to remove the mount and calls for 6 hours labor time (it very well may say this on a mk4 as well, I never read the book for those...only consulted it this time as the mount was really fighting me). I didn't remove axles or downpipe, but did loosen the A/C lines and cussed most of the time. I'd like to do another one or 2 before I make any firm statements, but I'm guessing it to be a good 4-5 hour job for someone with experience...and I'm sure with experience will come nice little time saving tricks. I'll be honest, I'm not looking forward to the next one. The one thing I did like was Vw sells a complete kit now, including belt, tensioning roller (it is a true tensioning roller, no separate spring loaded or hydraulic piece), both idler rollers, and all hardware, making it pretty easy to get all the right parts needed.


      As for how it looked, there was appreciable wear, particularly on the teeth. Granted, this car has been run pretty hard (apr stage 2) most of its 75K miles, but on the flip side, has been majority highway miles. I'll never have my GTI that long, but I predict if I did I'd be changing mine at 60K with my driving habits.


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      05-21-2007 11:55 PM #23
      I wonder why they would design something that calls for all sorts of disassembly for a "routine maintenance part." Seems like a chain or gear-set would have been a much better choice. I have heard that timing chain guides tend to wear out, but what about timing gear-sets?


    24. 05-22-2007 07:34 AM #24
      Quote, originally posted by ssaffioti »
      I wonder why they would design something that calls for all sorts of disassembly for a "routine maintenance part." Seems like a chain or gear-set would have been a much better choice. I have heard that timing chain guides tend to wear out, but what about timing gear-sets?


      Timing gears are noisy, and chains require maintence too (see VR6 timing chain guides).


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      05-22-2007 07:54 AM #25
      Quote, originally posted by ssaffioti »
      Wow, the timing belt replacement interval for the 2.0T is 120,000 miles! They must have just figured this out... My 2006 manual does not mention when to change the belt.

      Funny, my 2006 Bentley says that VW hadn't determined it at the time of printing. They used something like 70,000 miles as a recommendation (realistic unlike that 120k figure) and based it from the Audi A3 2.0T's service schedule. Maybe we should look at that car's service schedule, seems they haven't changed it 5 times.

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    26. 10-24-2007 07:46 PM #26
      Excellent info in here

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      10-24-2007 08:33 PM #27
      pics dont work for me

    28. 10-24-2007 09:08 PM #28
      Quote, originally posted by prodigymb »
      pics dont work for me

      http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/...20151


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      10-25-2007 06:37 PM #29
      Quote, originally posted by D.Passat00 »

      http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/...20151

      still dont work, on 2 diff computers

    30. 10-25-2007 06:45 PM #30
      Quote, originally posted by prodigymb »
      still dont work, on 2 diff computers

      donno what to tell ya...they work fine for me. if you want, you can pm me your e-mail, and i can send it to ya.


    31. 10-28-2007 10:50 PM #31
      odd enough in my 06 manual, it says 2.0t cars get oil changes every 5k miles....2.5's get every 10k miles. Service is due every 10k miles however, but the oil changes are listed at 5k intervals as i just stated.

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      04-12-2009 01:25 AM #32
      Couldn't agree with you more. Drives me nuts that the manual doesn't coincide with what the dealership says. The other ridiculous thing is that if you were to go the full 16,000km distance between oil changes (after the initial 16k) the dealership will charge you for oil top-ups! How f***ed up is that?! First they try to double the oil changes for extra cash and then if you stick with the manual, they will charge for oil top-ups!

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