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[Pats16vGTI]

Quote, originally posted by J. Daniel »

Who's patsy are you??

I am my own patsy who wants his money back I am not speaking for anyone but my self. and hopefully steering some potential victims from this guy

Quote, originally posted by Mange3586 »

Or....he will just delete your account if your causing problems because you didnt get your ms.

you got that right... He had time to go on his messageboard and delete all our usernames because we questioned him, but he wont reply to my ims or private messages or emails...

[Mange3586]

I dont think he will play around with our money anymore when his local state troopers knock on his door?

[J. Daniel]

Quote, originally posted by Pats16vGTI »

I am my own patsy who wants his money back

OK, just checking.

Personally I understand how Patatron could have buried himself in this Megasquirt deal not understanding the time involved, not just for assembly time, but the unending tech support, for what really isn't much profit.

OTOH, if I was in his shoes I'd shut down new orders and be giving every body with a standing order status every time I shipped one and where they were in the queue.

And in your shoes, with no communication, I'd probably be more pissed than you.

All I can say is good luck.

[81turbocaddy]

If you're backlogged for six months, it's probably time to stop taking new orders

[ValveCoverGasket]

Quote, originally posted by 81turbocaddy »

If you're backlogged for six months, it's probably time to stop taking new orders

its easier to take peoples money and not send them stuff, and then have your goons keep saying "hell get to it, when he gets to it" on the vortex

[chair]

was originally told 2-3 weeks
put me on the list of 2+ months
and no replys

[Pats16vGTI]

this is no joke people need to seriously stop with this guy.

[Pats16vGTI]

people might be able to get a hold of him on myspace
http://www.myspace.com/33560418

atleast its another avenue of communication you call him out on not responding too.

[Mange3586]

anyone have any luck? Because im just about fed up

[chair]

im with you one that dude

[Mange3586]

Does anyone know roughly how many people this guy is currently screwing? So when i call the police in washington I know what im talking about?

[Pats16vGTI]

I have heard from about 10 people so far..

[gdoggmoney]

Good luck gentlemen.

Long ago when he first started doing this I contacted him via email to see how he did his ECU mods for timing control and got a "I won't tell you what I do" response.

That kept me from buying one of his units. I went to DIYautotune and had it a few days later at my door.

Granted I'm having some awesome problems right now with no spark, but I do have my **** and it was less than half what you guys paid.

I understand running a small business where Pat is at, but his actions here are pathetic. You need to at least talk to people and not spend their money until the order is out and etc.

It's bad business practice, and shady.

On the otherhand if I was a customer that ordered and did not recieve my unit I would be equally as pissed if not more so.

I would take flight and stand at his door and over him until I left with something, either 600$ cash or the setup promised.

Same thing that people had to do to VL enterprises with their 6 spd gearboxes.

[TooClutchVW]

I know everyone else has been screwed myself included, but out of curiosity has anyone else received one of these alleged sent units that he finished 2 weeks ago or something?

[chair]

finished 2 weeks ago? he wont respond. and nothing on my porch. 1st thing i do is look at my porch every dayand on my way home i tell myself itll be there...

10 weeks now

[Rlyeezz2]

Quote, originally posted by gdoggmoney »

Same thing that people had to do to VL enterprises with their 6 spd gearboxes.

What problems did people have with vince???

[TDIVentoDave]

Quote, originally posted by Rlyeezz2 »

What problems did people have with vince???

Holy crap, I just saw Vince a couple of months ago. I never had a problem with my gearboxes. Heard some stories from people that weren't local, but that is all...

Too bad about Pat...

[Mange3586]

Well one of the things on my agenda for the day is to get the number for the washington sate troopers...and call it

[sdezego]

Quote, originally posted by Mange3586 »

Well one of the things on my agenda for the day is to get the number for the washington sate troopers...and call it

http://www.ic3.gov/

[gdoggmoney]

Vince did the same thing with his gearboxes.

A friend of mine flew out there and stood over him until he finished his. I can't remember how long he waited to do that but it was a very long time.

[Mange3586]

Thank you much!

[Pats16vGTI]

some one had posted his contact information before in another thread I had started that must have got black holed can that please be re posted? I cant seem to find the text file I saved!!! I am trying to fill out this IC3 complaint form...

[Pats16vGTI]

also here is a link to his current ebay auctions you can message him through the auctions by clicking on the link to ask seller a question about the item...

http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpatatron

I sent him the usual emailing requesting my product, or refund, and to contact me and the other people waiting for product....

[chair]

guess the bagged rabbit didnt sell. kinda hope it would. but with a rep like he has im not surprised

[chair]

Quote, originally posted by eaturhonda »

I know everyone else has been screwed myself included, but out of curiosity has anyone else received one of these alleged sent units that he finished 2 weeks ago or something?

where did you hear this?

i just want my stuff so i can drive my car!!!!
if i had the $ id buy another setup from diyautotune. but i had to scrounge up the 500 i paid pat... no way i can afford another one

note the tps with just a pigtail

Modified by chair at 11:36 PM 7-24-2007


Modified by chair at 11:36 PM 7-24-2007

[Pats16vGTI]

that looks nice! shame its gonna sit there for another year.

[antichristonwheels]

Kirwan, Patrick patatron@hotmail.com
8501 Willows Rd. #D221
Redmond, WA 98052
US
2062954194

this is from his domain registration, nothing hard to find, nothing private....

[Grabbit]

I feel bad for everyone, even pat. Poor business practices have ruined the fact that he made decent products.

[chair]

anyone call yet?

edit.
i got his voice mail which is what i expected


Modified by chair at 10:29 PM 7-25-2007

[Mange3586]

my brother is going to see if he knows anyone at work that deals with computer crimes

[mk1alexander]

been waiting with no reply whatsoever since march 15th ... took a term off of school to work and finish my project.. whoops... I have been very careful not to bash pats or even post in these because when i met him he was a nice guy. But i just want my stuff. The ECU taking a LONG time i can understand because he is building it bla bla bla.. but my innovative wideband, air temp sensor, coolent temp sensor, pigtail harness and haevy duty relay taking 4 months.. i dont know about that

[Mike eee]

All of you guys that have gotten screwed need to communicate with each other offline. Have a list of each person, the amount he got screwed for, when the order was placed, etc. I'm sure the grand total is thousands and thousands of dollars. (this is to be done to minimize the amount of work the detective will have to do, and to show it is not an isolated incident. present the info in an organized fashion.)

Forget calling the WA State troopers, call the local Redmond Police Dept (425) 556-2500, or wherever this guy lives, they would definetly take interest that one of their residents is commiting fraud. (it is fraud when the parts never go out). Hell, even show the cops this thread!! When one of you gets a detective on the phone who shows interest, set something up with him, where all the people who got screwed can contact this detective and make statements.

If that doesn't work, get the feds involved. The FBI. in the end if you don't get your money or product at least you made his life hell.

I can understand people get backordered but some of you have been waiting since January!!! Good luck, hopefully it works out.

[H2Zero]

Fellas I truely feel for u all. To think I very nearly ordered from him and when he found out I didn't order from him he didn't sound so helpful ..... I do hope there is a VERY good explanation to this.

[chair]

working with a friend of his to get some answers/response from pat/ or whatever.
he is seems very willing to help and is cooperative for him
ill give an update if this goes anywhere if it doesnt.
then we will have to take the next step

[!millertime]

[emiller@devel2 scripts]$ whois Patatron.com
[Querying whois.internic.net]
[Redirected to whois.tucows.com]
[Querying whois.tucows.com]
[whois.tucows.com]
Registrant:
patatron.com
8501 Willows Rd. #D221
Redmond, WA 98052
US

Domain name: PATATRON.COM

Administrative Contact:
Kirwan, Patrick patatron@hotmail.com
8501 Willows Rd. #D221
Redmond, WA 98052
US
2062954194
Technical Contact:
Kirwan, Patrick patatron@hotmail.com
8501 Willows Rd. #D221
Redmond, WA 98052
US
2062954194

Registration Service Provider:
Tera-Byte Dot Com Inc
http://www.tera-byte.com/

Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 20-Jul-2007.
Record expires on 01-Jul-2008.
Record created on 01-Jul-2005.

Domain servers in listed order:
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Domain status: ok

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