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    Thread: Caddy axle flip?

    1. 06-18-2007 01:14 AM #1
      Hey guys, I might be ending up with a caddy soon and i had a couple questions about the whole axle flip thing..

      first off, how much of a pain in the ass is it to do?

      secondly, how much does it lower the ass end? and show me some pics of caddys with that done if you could. thanks!


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      06-18-2007 02:34 AM #2
      http://www.vwcaddy.com
      Search there, I read a lot about axle flips there. Then I forgot all of it.
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      06-18-2007 05:37 AM #3
      axle flips are a huge pain in the ass and it limits your suspension travel.

      a better option is to get lowering plates because they dont mess with the factory suspension travel.
      and lowering plates are very easy to install

      here is where to order them from:
      http://yhst-1918367471896.stor....html

      and here is the description from that site:

      Quote, originally posted by bfi »
      These plates allow you to drop the rear of your caddy 2.5" or 3", while retaining the full stock amount of travel, something not possible with an axle flip. Bascially you remove your rear spindles, bolt the plate to the axle and bolt your spindle to the plate. The drop plates will increase the rear track by .5" on both sides so effectively act as rear spacers as well.

      These are constructed of .5" steel, drilled, tapped and powdercoated for long life and durability. Included are all new hardware for both the plate and your spindles. These will work with both rear drum and rear disk brake cars.


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      06-18-2007 07:23 AM #4
      I think the axle flip is something like a 4" drop. I've never done it but I know some welding is involved as well as buying new shorter shocks is needed.
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      06-18-2007 07:45 AM #5
      Quote, originally posted by VWJerm »
      I think the axle flip is something like a 4" drop. I've never done it but I know some welding is involved as well as buying new shorter shocks is needed.

      i've heard shocks from a 95 dodge minivan work perfectly but you may want to double check. good luck with the job

      i just went ahead and bought some lowering plates from VWJerm...very easy to install and very sturdy.


    6. 06-18-2007 08:17 AM #6
      Quote, originally posted by cadzoooks »

      i've heard shocks from a 95 dodge minivan work perfectly but you may want to double check. good luck with the job

      i just went ahead and bought some lowering plates from VWJerm...very easy to install and very sturdy.

      Koni Reds for early beetle.


    7. 06-18-2007 08:48 AM #7
      the drop would be dependant on the condition of the rear leaf springs.

    8. 06-18-2007 01:23 PM #8
      yeah, you can get lower with the axle flip, and i dont know my rim/tire combo, so the lowering plates may space my wheels out to far. ya dig?

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      06-18-2007 04:21 PM #9
      the axle flip isn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. You don't need to weld anything. Essentially, unbolt the leaf springs from their mounts, then mount on the underside of the axle. I am using older corvette air shocks for mine and they work amazing. As far as suspension travel... yes it does decrease, but i trimmed my bump stops and it rides great. The drop is about 3". That being said... i'm going to be running lowering plates IN ADDITION to the axle flip.

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      06-18-2007 05:24 PM #10
      Quote, originally posted by boraIV »
      the axle flip isn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. You don't need to weld anything. Essentially, unbolt the leaf springs from their mounts, then mount on the underside of the axle. I am using older corvette air shocks for mine and they work amazing. As far as suspension travel... yes it does decrease, but i trimmed my bump stops and it rides great. The drop is about 3". That being said... i'm going to be running lowering plates IN ADDITION to the axle flip.

      this guy really wants to go low..

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      06-18-2007 05:29 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by boraIV »
      the axle flip isn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. You don't need to weld anything. Essentially, unbolt the leaf springs from their mounts, then mount on the underside of the axle. I am using older corvette air shocks for mine and they work amazing. As far as suspension travel... yes it does decrease, but i trimmed my bump stops and it rides great. The drop is about 3". That being said... i'm going to be running lowering plates IN ADDITION to the axle flip.


      true story.
      I've got the same setup.


      Just a flip with KYB's... the air shocks will go on sometime this week.


    12. 06-18-2007 10:18 PM #12
      so any write ups on the non-welding way to do it??? and vortexblue, your truck is awesome..

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      06-18-2007 11:01 PM #13
      there are somewhere... basically, unbolt the leaf springs from the truck and the axle. you need to drill a hole directly opposite of the hole on the underside of the axle. you then need to get a HIGH grade bolt/nut to put through the axle and bolt the leaf springs too.

      thats the basic idea, do a search for caddy flip in the archives, thats where i found mine


    14. 06-18-2007 11:48 PM #14
      thanks dude. ill see if i can track that down.

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      06-19-2007 12:15 AM #15
      Here is my truck with a flipped axel. I have three leaf springs. I think some came with two and some with three. My freind has two leafs stock with a flipped axel and his is a little lower. I have 15 with 195/50/15s. The job was pretty eazy the only welding to do is cut off the brackets on the top off the axel and weld to the bottom of the axel.
      The truck looks a little better now. Hope this helps


    16. 06-19-2007 12:31 AM #16
      i think i want it a little lower. how are people getting them super low? like old school industries sport truck?

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      06-19-2007 01:56 AM #17
      Quote, originally posted by vortexblue »


      caddy above looks great! tho i went with the 3" plates that VW jerm made. heres what it looked like before the plates.

      heres the truck right after the install

      and heres the truck after it settled (chitty pic i'll get another one tomorro)

      and just a pic of the plates so you see what they look like. (and cause its a great plug for VWJerm)

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    18. 06-19-2007 06:50 PM #18
      so im now confused. because the white truck is pretty damn low with just a flip, but ive seen other trucks that just had a flip that looked taller.

      anyways, i think thats the way for me, i want to get as low as i can. maybe ill have to work out a flip and the lowering plates..... hmm


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      06-19-2007 09:16 PM #19
      It was stated that the white Caddy is running a flip AND lowering plates.

      A flip alone will never get you that low.


    20. 06-19-2007 09:34 PM #20
      Quote, originally posted by Mike@ForgeMotorsport »
      A flip alone will never get you that low.

      he's right.. here's one with just a flip.


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      06-19-2007 10:08 PM #21
      Hmm... all those trucks look like the same hight, to me. Maybe its the shadows/wheel offset... Do they all have 15in. wheels ?

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      06-19-2007 10:59 PM #22
      it seems that with whatever way you use, whether it be lowering plates or axle flip, all the trucks seem to sit at different heights. I think its got alot to do with how worn the leaf springs are and also how good the shocks under there are.
      Mine is sort of low with 2.5" but with my 15x7 rims I scrap if I haul anything or hit bumps at high speeds. I've been looking at those cool air shocks for the back recently...
      Also, thanks JETrick for the props.
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      06-19-2007 11:12 PM #23
      Quote, originally posted by Mike@ForgeMotorsport »
      It was stated that the white Caddy is running a flip AND lowering plates.

      A flip alone will never get you that low.


      Negative.
      I have only a flip and a small 1/2" perch to locate the rear axle. My above post *was* confusing, tho. Sorry.

      To clarify:

      This truck:

      Has
      The axle over the leafs
      Plus something that looks like this (not these dimensions):


      edit: I am running 15x6 Enkei's with 195/45/15's. The rear tucks at normal ride height (and the sidewall rubs over bumps because I'm too lazy to adjust the rear lip)


      Modified by vortexblue at 8:14 PM 6-19-2007


      Modified by vortexblue at 8:15 PM 6-19-2007


    24. 06-20-2007 12:42 AM #24
      im running a flip alone and tucking 13s with a 175-50r13 tire on some bmw rims i will have to get pics up only got about 2 fingers with between tire and fender which i think looks great

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      06-20-2007 12:58 PM #25
      Here's my contribution:
      Flipped axle, 1.5" Jerm plates, Vette air shocks @ 20psi.

      195 45 14

      If I was to do it all again I think I would try 2.5" plates and just run more air in the shocks for a stiffer ride.


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      06-20-2007 09:53 PM #26
      Quote, originally posted by joezeeuw »
      Here's my contribution:
      Flipped axle, 1.5" Jerm plates, Vette air shocks @ 20psi.

      keep in mind that my 1.5" lowering plates are custom, they do require you to drill and tap into the existing axle plate otherwise the bolt holes will interfere.

      For Sale:
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      06-20-2007 10:57 PM #27
      flipped rear axle and 3/4" lowering blocks





      Modified by glidrew at 11:53 PM 6-20-2007

    28. 06-20-2007 11:17 PM #28
      go with a simple flip first, you can always wack on drop plates afterwards.


    29. 06-23-2007 04:40 AM #29
      Quote, originally posted by Mike@ForgeMotorsport »
      It was stated that the white Caddy is running a flip AND lowering plates.

      A flip alone will never get you that low.

      Yes, it will.

      Here is my truck with only a flip in the back, on 13s. If I went any lower (say an inch at the most) I would be dragging frame and oil pan constantly (already too low to drive daily without changing the pan weekly).

      See pics before a couple newer old skool mods:

      Levi


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