aw yea, everyone there has em. i bought em for the fit, since im a bigger guy i liked the cut on em because they fit me like a slim pair of jeans would, with a tapered leg as i ride bmx. im in the market for some blacks and i was gonna go 5010's, however now i'm afraid of the all cotton threads so im looking at sammy's and pbj's now, maybe even diors if i can find somewhere to try em on. nyc here i come?mike-Dreizehn's got something...keeping your ish exclusive is pretty important to some people (hence paying $100's on nikes and vans), i guess at second thought skull was a little company not really known in the states and now they're coming over pretty strong. im more of a quality/fit person though, i just like nice quality stuff. you gotta figure everyone has em for a reason, in skull's case i think it's a decent price/quality ratio