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    Thread: DIY - Blown CV Boot Replacement and inspection

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      07-18-2007 02:02 AM #1
      DIY - Inner CV Boot replacement and CV joint inspection

      I don't know why I keep writing these...nobody ever looks at them but /shrug. Glutton for punishment. Anyways, here goes.

      Lowered cars have a tendency to blow out the CV boots due to the change in suspension geometry. This will first manifest itself by dark grease spots appearing on the outside of the front rims or building up on the plastic wells of the car. Here is what a blown CV boot looks like:

      Before you begin, you should decide how you want to handle the replacement. A majority of the time, people will simply buy a brand new axle and replace it completely rather then messing around with the boot. Take a look below and decide what you would like to do, and if the DIY is for you then read on.

      Brand new OEM axle - $200
      Brand new aftermarket axle (EMPI) - $100
      CV Boot repair kit - $22
      12 point outer nut - $5
      Knowing something about how your car works: Priceless

      I had heard some people have unusual vibrations with EMPI axles, so rather then run the risk I decided to save $175 and do the job myself. All said and done, about 2.5-3 hours of messy work.

      Tools for removing JUST the axle:
      -30mm 12 point socket
      -8mm or 10mm 12 point triple square bit
      -ratchet
      -breaker bar
      -12" extension
      -PB Blaster
      -small piece of wood
      -rubber mallet

      Additional tools for replacing the CV Boot:
      -Gloves (for SURE: you WILL get dirty)
      -Brake cleaner
      -PB Blaster
      -medium blade screwdriver
      -large blade screwdriver
      -1 or 2 rolls of shop towels and a garbage can
      -Vise Grips


      Parts required:
      -New axle (if replacing)
      -CV Boot kit - contains the following

      a) Tube of boot grease
      b) Large boot clamp
      c) Outer cover
      d) O-ring
      e) New Circlip
      f) New boot
      -New 12 point outer nut
      -New CV to Axle bolts (6)

      As always, be careful and do this procedure at your own risk. I can't be held responsible if you knock the car off a jackstand or something.

      Removing the old axle

      1. With the front end of the car off the ground, follow the *excellent* instructions provided by Raxles. It is linked below. You can also use the Wheel Bearing DIY and portions of the Clutch Removal DIY to help you out.
      NOTE: I would NOT remove the nut that connects the tie rod to the control arm or the brake caliper.

      http://raxles.com/volkswagen_m....aspx
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1722551
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2703042

      Replacing the boot
      NOTE: Much to my surprise, I was gifted by having one of the "triple roller" type inner CV joints. There are multiple types of CV joints, so if someone knows more about what model years / when the other types were used, please feel free to contribute.

      2. Lay the axle out on your work area. Put down some newspaper or something to collect the grease.

      3. Using a blade screwdriver, bend the tabs holding the cover plate to the CV joint.

      Cover Removed:

      4. Clean up some of the grease so you can see the top of the rollers. What you want to do is mark down in a line the way the joint is assembled so when you put it back together, it goes in the same way. Using a sharpie, make 3 marks - on the axle shaft, on the triple roller mechanism, and on the housing itself. You may also want to put a small scratch near the mark with a screwdriver, in case you wipe the ink off.

      5. Remove the circlip on the outside of the axle shaft. I used two blade screwdrivers together, and it popped right off.

      6. Here is a shot of inside the housing. You can see how the splined shaft fits into the triple roller assembly. Spray some PB blaster so you can soak the splines.

      7. After the PB blaster has taken effect, use a rubber mallet and a small wood block to remove the axle from the triple roller. I waited an hour, and after two soft hits the axle came right out.

      Axle removed:

      8. With a blade screwdriver, remove the clamp on the CV boot by prying up at the locking tab. Then slide the CV boot off the housing. Don't forget to remove the other half of the boot on the axle shaft.

      9. Remove the O-ring on the housing, and use the brake cleaner and the shop towels and clean everything. I found it useful to use a bucket to put my shop towels in, and then spray the cleaner onto the parts while in the bucket. This captured all the dirt and grime.

      10. Inspect the triple roller and the CV housing for abnormal wear. Some striation on the housing is normal, but look for chips and dents or deep grooves. This may mean the CV needs to be replaced.

      11. Slide the new boot onto the axle shaft. You may need to twist it to get it all the way on, but don't rip the boot.

      12. Install the boot onto the housing. The boot has a raised groove that fits into the deep groove on the housing.

      Boot installed:

      13. Install the triple roller assembly onto the axle shaft, aligning the marks that you made in Step 4. You may need to twist the boot a bit to align the housing; remove it if you have to and then put it back on.

      NOTE: The triple roller assembly goes on ONLY one way. This is with the beveled portion down, the flat part at the top. The pictures below describe this.


      Marks aligned:

      14. Drive the triple roller onto the axle shaft until you can see the groove for the circlip. To do this, I used a large, deep socket that would fit between the rollers but allow the axle to pass through. After a couple of taps with a rubber mallet, I could see the circlip groove.

      Groove exposed:

      15. Install the circlip in the groove. Take care not to deform it while installing.

      16. Using the included CV joint grease, pack half of the grease into the joint and squirt the other half of the grease into the bottom of the boot. Slide the CV joint around to spread the grease.

      17. Install the new O-ring into the housing, and set the cover plate on top. I used a pair of Vise-Grips to hold the plate in place while I bent the tabs down to lock the plate in place.

      18. I bent the tabs down by tapping them with a hammer and then pressing them in place with the aforementioned Vice-Grips.

      19. Install the clamp on the top of the boot. Make sure that the three ridges are seated properly in their holes.

      20. Use the Vise-Grips (or another appropriate tool) and squeeze the square notch at the top of the clamp. This will lock the boot onto the housing. Keep tightening until the clamp will not move.

      21. Reinstall the axle in accordance with the above listed DIY's.

      Let me know with questions.

      Mike


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      07-18-2007 02:05 AM #2
      wow, amazing write-up..very detailed and great pics!

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      07-18-2007 02:16 AM #3
      awsome.


      when there about to take a crap do they start making clicking noises when turning the wheel.?


    4. 07-18-2007 08:38 AM #4
      Thanks for any and all DIYs that you've ever written. they are priceless for those of us who cannot afford/accept professional repair fees. the step by step picures also make it incredibly easy, even for those of us who consider changing our oil a major accomplishment. please continue.

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      07-18-2007 09:04 AM #5
      You sir, are the god of DIY's. My car is going in tomorrow for this exact repair - I would do it (especially with this DIY) - but I don't have the time.
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      lol, just in time for my issues
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      07-18-2007 09:13 AM #7
      Quote, originally posted by spkn^GRMN »
      lol, just in time for my issues

      ditto !

      Stickyyyyyyyy

      for a quality job and great writeup


      Modified by IN-FLT at 9:15 AM 7-18-2007


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      07-18-2007 09:30 AM #8
      Very nice write-up. The outer is even easier to do....


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      07-18-2007 09:47 AM #9
      Nice write up dude

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      07-18-2007 09:53 AM #10
      Awesome write up!


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      07-18-2007 09:55 AM #11
      Great job once again Mike. You help us out more than you realize with you writeups! Thanks greatly, I'm sure I'll need this one soon.

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      07-18-2007 10:05 AM #12
      this is very helpful , thankyou! i had to swap out an axle a few weeks ago and wish i had this!
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    13. 07-18-2007 10:12 AM #13
      Where did you hear about the EMPI axels giving vibrations?

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      07-18-2007 10:13 AM #14
      Very nice write-up. I would still say it's easier and less messy just to swap the axles with a Raxle unit now and never worry about this again
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      07-18-2007 10:24 AM #15
      ANTOTHER one YOUR great DIY's.

      THANK YOU.


    16. 07-18-2007 04:49 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by LSinLV »
      ANTOTHER one YOUR great DIY's.

      THANK YOU.

      very true, great and very useful write-up


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      07-18-2007 11:04 PM #17
      Quote, originally posted by sle39lvr »
      Where did you hear about the EMPI axels giving vibrations?

      I ran across it somewhere...I can't remember exactly. But I've talked to a couple of vendors, and about 75% of them have said that VW's (Passat's especially) experience vibrations when running with EMPI axles.

      Thanks for the positive reinforcement all

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    18. 07-18-2007 11:06 PM #18
      Thank you Mike.

      You may think that this isn't helpful but it is and I'm sure since I'm dumped I'll be doing this eventually. Maybe I'll just go with some raxles though?

      for the DIY.

      whatever you heard, it's wrong.

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      07-19-2007 12:53 AM #19
      great write up! thanks!

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      07-19-2007 12:56 AM #20
      looks fun

    21. 07-19-2007 03:08 AM #21
      wish i would've known this about a week ago. i had to pay 150 to have my inner cv boot replaced..

      but great diy.


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      07-19-2007 10:07 AM #22
      wow, awsome write up
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    23. 07-19-2007 10:40 AM #23
      Quote, originally posted by sle39lvr »
      Where did you hear about the EMPI axels giving vibrations?

      From me maybe? I think I may put new boots on my old axles when I get a chance, replace the EMPI axles on the car with the old ones and see if the vibes go away.

      Added to the DIY.


    24. 07-19-2007 12:11 PM #24
      Quote, originally posted by VgRt6 »

      From me maybe? I think I may put new boots on my old axles when I get a chance, replace the EMPI axles on the car with the old ones and see if the vibes go away.

      Added to the DIY.

      OH...
      I got a EMPI axle in a box right now waiting to be installed. SO hope it won't cause more vibrations when installed


    25. 07-19-2007 12:38 PM #25
      With 230k miles on the original motor mounts and transmission/clutch, I can't definitely say that the EMPI axles are the cause of the vibrations that I get under full accel, but they did start right after I rebuilt the front suspension/drivetrain (including replacing the axles).

    26. 07-19-2007 06:10 PM #26
      I have a 2001 VR6 and I recently put in some KONI Yellow's....after installing I noticed that both boots were blown so I replaced the axles...only to find that the driver side bearing was bad. So I replaced. Car put back together and it was fine. But then the road noise disappeared but I was getting weird vibrations above 65pmh...I go to look at the boot and its leaking all its goo out of the air vent hole...

      question is... does lowering the car really affect the axles? Or was this a case of I just got a bad axle? I replaced it today actually...Im installing tonight.


    27. 07-19-2007 06:10 PM #27
      And just to add, I am an old member, I just changed my screen name

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      07-19-2007 06:19 PM #28
      nice write up

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      07-19-2007 06:25 PM #29
      sweet

      i need to do this soon!


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      07-19-2007 06:37 PM #30
      Awesome work man. Your efforts are not done in vain - I think most people just don't want to hassle with the repair and/or don't have the skillz! AA++
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    31. 07-19-2007 07:00 PM #31
      Quote, originally posted by VgRt6 »
      With 230k miles on the original motor mounts and transmission/clutch, I can't definitely say that the EMPI axles are the cause of the vibrations that I get under full accel, but they did start right after I rebuilt the front suspension/drivetrain (including replacing the axles).

      i just installed an empi on the drivers side. 66k miles on the car and tranny....empis cause minor vibrations under acceleration, take it from me but i can live with it....for now....but as soon as i get the spare change i'm rebuilding my oem axle


    32. 07-19-2007 07:05 PM #32
      Quote, originally posted by heshootznscores »
      wow, amazing write-up..very detailed and great pics!

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    33. 07-19-2007 07:34 PM #33
      thank you so much...this is so weird b/c i was about to tackle this myself, and you just saved me a good amount of time. kudos to you my friend!
      if i ever meet you ill be sure to buy you a

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      07-19-2007 07:48 PM #34
      another fantstic writeup Mike, good stuff

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    35. 07-19-2007 07:52 PM #35
      this needs to be in the diy section...if it isnt already

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