Weezly's Wide Rabbit Rat Racer

[VWeezly]

Quote, originally posted by charliefox »

Dig all the sealent out and make sure every inch or so you weld the outer skin to the inner arch skin mate, other wise its about a meter worth each side per side that will be a very weak point on the car, then rust proof then add the seam sealer. My arches were done by a pro and he wouldn't do the job unless it was done properly. Last thing you want with doing all the work is the car to end in a ditch. Keep up the good work, great to see another mk1 with a berg cup!

Got it... that's what I did on one side. I'll doublecheck and make sure to do the other side. Thanks for the input brother!

Quote, originally posted by georgekelp »

Congrats on getting it on the ground!

And thanks Raffi... wish you coulda been there for the lowering

Edit... Pics for new viewers...

Modified by VWeezly at 10:33 AM 3-6-2008

[VWralley]

Quote, originally posted by VWeezly »

And you can see... the front is a bit high

hey man, fyi, you can get shorter springs from ground control. the strut top idea is a good one especially if you are going lower still...we are tryin to setup a group buy on ball joint extenders if you are interested in correction that front geometry

looking great! nice work fellas!

[VWeezly]

Quote, originally posted by VWralley »

hey man, fyi, you can get shorter springs from ground control. the strut top idea is a good one especially if you are going lower still...we are tryin to setup a group buy on ball joint extenders if you are interested in correction that front geometry looking great! nice work fellas!

I think extended strut tops would be awesome. Kris sent me a pic of an extended one that was welded...

The front springs are pretty short... not sure if shorter is the answer.

Have you welded a spring perch lower on the strut housing before.... I would think lots of heat would boil the hydraulic fluid... which means removing the insert.

[VWralley]

those dont look all that short to me, but i can only barely see em in the pic..i got a set of 6" spring from luis (aka urogolf) and it helped get my front down to where i like it, and i still have a ton of thread left.

you have to remove the insert fo sho...its alot more work thats why i suggested tryin some shorter springs first. either way will accomplish the same end result

the extended strut tops will give you just a little more sturt travel which will def help. the ball joint extenders i mentioned would correct the front geometry (you also lower the tie rod end) and get rid of bump steer and get the roll center back in the happy zone

[VWeezly]

The front springs are as short as the rear... They may be 8 inches though I suppose. So 6 inchers may be better. I could cut these springs maybe. It wouldn't take too long to just weld the perch lower though either. hmmmm

Oh... and in the pic I hadn't spun the spanners all the way down yet.

I may not need any ball joint extenders yet... It looks like I have a little ways till the c arms are level.

Modified by VWeezly at 11:20 AM 3-6-2008

[VWralley]

see two inches shorter springs mean a 2" drop, which is pretty sufficient. also keep in mind that the lower you go the more dramtically its going to change that angle on the control arms. i went from the standard 8" spring to the 6" and got low enough AND i still have about have the length of the threaded collar to go down more (if i needed to go lower which i dont)

like i said though, either way will get the desired result, but DO NOT cut the spring.

[mikeoxmall]

So how close are you to the budget?

[VWeezly]

Quote, originally posted by mikeoxmall »

So how close are you to the budget?

Haven't spent any money in a while. We still have some moneys left. I've spent more elbow grease than anything else

[VWeezly]

BTW... anyon ehave any 6 inch springs? OH... It would be DOPE to have a new hood.

[mikeoxmall]

Quote, originally posted by VWeezly »

Haven't spent any money in a while. We still have some moneys left. I've spent more elbow grease than anything else

I figured you and your friend turning wrenches should save quite a bit. Just wondering if you were keeping an excel spreed sheet of the funds. I thought it would be interesting. Best of luck!

[DubbyDriver]

Nice progress. When you working next?

[georgekelp]

Quote, originally posted by VWeezly »

BTW... anyon ehave any 6 inch springs? OH... It would be DOPE to have a new hood.

Try spinning the spring collar down a ways first.

Why do you need a new hood?

[VWeezly]

Quote, originally posted by DubbyDriver »

Nice progress. When you working next?

Probably for a little while tonight... and then tomorrow night... and then most of saturday. I have some welding and bondoing to do.

Quote, originally posted by georgekelp »

Try spinning the spring collar down a ways first. Why do you need a new hood?

The one I have has holes in it for hood pins and the rear has some banged up parts. I just don't feel like it's worth it to salvage...

[GTrabbIt]

Loving the build, watching

[Digital K.]

I think 3 or more inches in the front and a couple lower in the back

[vdubster79]

Looks soo good already. Can't wait to see it painted

I love the wide flairs, gotta go find some for my 79 Rocco now

[VWeezly]

Quote, originally posted by twopointone »

I think 3 or more inches in the front and a couple lower in the back

I agree.

[Caddy with a "twist"]

Damn dude, this project is going to be freakin sweet. I am in Oklahoma about ready to start my 84...when the cold weather leaves! Sick ride. How much did you pay for your wheels?

[VWeezly]

Quote, originally posted by Caddy with a "twist" »

Damn dude, this project is going to be freakin sweet. I am in Oklahoma about ready to start my 84...when the cold weather leaves! Sick ride. How much did you pay for your wheels?

Thanks! And no need to wait till it warms up Haha.

I got the wheels for very cheap and slightly used with tires from a local dude. I plan on buyin another set of 14x9s from Diamond Racing though. They're only like $50 per wheel

[16vDigiGti]

why didn't you raise the strut towere while you were there?

[Digital K.]

im not sure he knew where everything would sit once the flares and such were on. AFAIK he just got the struts and everything assembled the other day.

[ghost_rider_x]

gotta keep my eye on this one...looks sick.

[VWralley]

Quote, originally posted by 16vDigiGti »

why didn't you raise the strut towere while you were there?

not entirely sure, but depending on his plans for after the challenge he may have a class in mind where this is not allowed?

[georgekelp]

Photoshop of the beast lowered more:

[VWeezly]

Quote, originally posted by georgekelp »

Photoshop of the beast lowered more:

Raaaaaaaaaad. That looks badass Raffi! I should have it sitting at that hight for shows... maybe just a centimeter higher I will be racing with level c arms though. Whatever handles the best. As for the strut towers... I didn't want to hack them up. I like the stock tower look too. I had already spent so much time on the bay... I just wanted to be done... and I needed it to be done for painting day. The car will be going to my house immediately after paint. I didn't want to bother with transporting the engine seperatly

[Digital K.]

have a slight bit of negativity in the CA isn't going to be the end of the world. I don't think you'll be experiencing a massive amount of bump steer and such on the track. Obviously you dont want to have retarded ones like me, but dont fret toooo much over it.

[Shawn B]

Did you get your front suspension sorted out?

My front towers are raised 2 3/4" and most wouldn't even know it if you wanted to keep the look of the front towers. The only problem I have is that I need to make a custom front tower bar as no one makes one to buy for raised towers. The raised early style strut caps make sense here because you can still take advantage of all the company's that make upper front tower bars, just take your pick.

From the picture of your front suspension, are you leaving the huge spring perch on the front shock housing? If they were mine I'd have trimmed them down and it wouldn't be the first time I have lowered the perches by removing them and rewelding them back on.

Depending on how low you go but my understanding is that this car will see some track days so the ball joint extenders are definitely a must for you and I don't know if you've seen my build thread recently but I did a front tie rod flip kit.

[VWeezly]

Quote, originally posted by Shawn B »

Did you get your front suspension sorted out? My front towers are raised 2 3/4" and most wouldn't even know it if you wanted to keep the look of the front towers. The only problem I have is that I need to make a custom front tower bar as no one makes one to buy for raised towers. The raised early style strut caps make sense here because you can still take advantage of all the company's that make upper front tower bars, just take your pick. From the picture of your front suspension, are you leaving the huge spring perch on the front shock housing? If they were mine I'd have trimmed them down and it wouldn't be the first time I have lowered the perches by removing them and rewelding them back on. Depending on how low you go but my understanding is that this car will see some track days so the ball joint extenders are definitely a must for you and I don't know if you've seen my build thread recently but I did a front tie rod flip kit.

At this point I don't really want to mess with the strut towers... Yours look great! But I really want to be done with welding I probably will look into some ball joint extenders though. That's a great idea.

My arms and hands are sore from sanding. I'm taking a break to eat right now... then more sanding will be happenin.

[sprstu]

that p-chop that raffi did, holy hell is that hot.

[Digital K.]

so how did painting go!? hm? you never called me does this mean its over?

[VWeezly]

Quote, originally posted by twopointone »

so how did painting go!? hm? you never called me does this mean its over?

It went great... as far as I can tell from the cell phone pics. Nica and I had to leave once all the prep was done to go get the MKII ready to haul out of my garage. It was a whirlwind of a day. Non stop. Sorry I didn't give you a shout. We didn't stop runnin around till like 7. If you want to come see the car later today or tomorrow, it will be at my house I'm still waiting on a call from the dude that is bringing it to my house. There should be pics up today or tomorrow mornin.

[16v_HOR]

Quote, originally posted by VWeezly »

It went great... as far as I can tell from the cell phone pics. Nica and I had to leave once all the prep was done to go get the MKII ready to haul out of my garage. It was a whirlwind of a day. Non stop. Sorry I didn't give you a shout. We didn't stop runnin around till like 7. If you want to come see the car later today or tomorrow, it will be at my house I'm still waiting on a call from the dude that is bringing it to my house. There should be pics up today or tomorrow mornin.

Sweet, I cant wait....This things really coming along now

[Digital K.]

Quote, originally posted by VWeezly »

There should be pics up today or tomorrow mornin.

weak.

[206vw]

I am kinda diggin the no paint scheme going on like a true rat rod

[sprstu]

are you "working" on wednesday then? I dont have to work so Id like to stop by if I could.