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    1. 07-25-2007 04:49 PM #1
      Hello
      i broke my 1.8 20vt,and i try to get 2 liter,what mods i need,thanks.

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      07-25-2007 05:30 PM #2
      Quote, originally posted by supernafamacho »
      Hello
      i broke my 1.8 20vt,and i try to get 2 liter,what mods i need,thanks.

      Cheap way:
      Crankshaft : AEG = 92.8mm ,ALH = 95.5mm ==> dont pay more than 250 for either crankshaft
      Connecting Rods : SCAT = 144mm/20mm ==> $349US.Tested rods to withstand more power than anyone here is making
      Pistons : personal preference = JE ==> $555US for a custom SET based on your stroke and bore.Additional $$ for anything else such as coating etc.
      Expensive Way:
      Crankshaft : Eurospec Forged unit in any stroke you want. ==> $1200US+
      Connecting Rods : Pauter/Corillo ==> $700US+/set
      Pistons : JE again (see above)
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      07-31-2007 03:40 PM #3
      Interesting
      And the EIP Tuning Kit? http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/e....html
      It´s good idea?
      For Big Turbo.
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    4. 07-31-2007 03:59 PM #4
      Isaam, what factory crankshafts are forged?

    5. 07-31-2007 04:11 PM #5
      ABA 92.8
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    6. 07-31-2007 04:17 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by QU1KGTI »
      Isaam, what factory crankshafts are forged?

      for 06A blocks, none. you can attempt to run an ALH crank in an 06A block, i wouldn't though.

    7. 07-31-2007 06:20 PM #7
      So I need a TDI block and crank (ALH), yes?

    8. 07-31-2007 10:04 PM #8
      that would be ideal.

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      08-01-2007 02:51 AM #9
      Quote, originally posted by Gu4rDi4N »
      Interesting
      And the EIP Tuning Kit? http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/e....html
      It´s good idea?
      For Big Turbo.

      STAY AWAY FROM EIP.And the price of that kit does not surprise me one bit...Only shows what kind of crooks your dealing with.No 92.8mm crankshaft ever produced was forged!Considering EIP does everything "in house" meaning they dont source cranks from Eurospec (which is knife edged) then I would say that advertisement is false.
      [Will someone please take that website offline?]
      $2699 + 599 for what?Lets price it out roughly:
      Bearing Set - connecting rod/main = 230US
      Crankshaft - 92.8mm - New = 600US
      Pistons = 555US
      ARP Mains = 160US
      ARP Rod bolts = 110US
      Total = 1655
      Profit = 1000US
      Yup its no wonder these basterds are still in buisness....
      Quote, originally posted by QU1KGTI »
      Isaam, what factory crankshafts are forged?

      All except AEB ,OBD-II ABA & AEG which are cast.Every single 06A block I took apart had a forged crankshaft in it and I highly doubt they were all 225bhp TT engines

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      08-01-2007 02:52 AM #10

      Awesome how it comes with the lame 2 piece thrust bushing AS WELL AS a set of traditional 4 piece bearings.
      Odviously somebody who is a real expert laid out that photo.

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      08-01-2007 03:24 AM #11
      According to this, the longitudinal 1.8t motors have cast cranks.
      "You know you have a bad idea when Ford guys are making fun of you."

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    12. 08-01-2007 06:53 AM #12
      Quote, originally posted by Wizard-of-OD »
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      All except AEB ,OBD-II ABA & AEG which are cast.Every single 06A block I took apart had a forged crankshaft in it and I highly doubt they were all 225bhp TT engines

      yes, i misread and typed about a longer stroke crank.

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      08-01-2007 05:17 PM #13
      GMG Racin Stroker Kit:
      GMG Competition Stroker Kits
      In-house engine building is available at GMG. These stroker kits include:
      - Forged Crankshaft
      - Custom 4340 Connecting Rods
      - Forged Pistons
      - Main and Rod Bearings
      The Competition Stroker Kits are available for:
      2, 4, and 5 Valve 4 cylinder engines. Displacements range from 1984cc - 2090cc. Compression ratios from 8.5:1 to 14.0:1 are available.
      Price: $2439.00
      2 and 4 Valve 5 cylinder engines. Displacements range from 2431cc - 2611cc. Compression ratios from 8.5:1 to 14.0:1 available.
      Price: $2739.00
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      08-01-2007 05:26 PM #14
      Quote, originally posted by fast_a2_20v »
      Odviously somebody who is a real expert laid out that photo.

      Clearly because he forgot to take note that the connecting rods are from SCAT's air cooled line...
      Quote, originally posted by Chris164935 »
      According to this, the longitudinal 1.8t motors have cast cranks.

      Forgot the 06A block came in the longitudinal cars. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] for good info.
      Quote, originally posted by Gu4rDi4N »
      GMG Racin Stroker Kit

      GMG Racing kit = Eurospec sport Competition kit
      Quote, originally posted by Eurospec stroker kit »

      Competition Stroker Kits
      These kits include a forged crankshaft, Eurospec
      4340 connecting rods, forged pistons, main and rod bearings.
      The Competition Stroker Kits are available for:
      4-Cylinder 8V, 16V, 20V
      Displacements range from 1984cc - 2090cc. Compression ratios from 8.5:1 to 14.0:1 are available.
      Starting from $2,439
      5-Cylinder 10V, 20V
      Displacements range from 2431cc - 2611cc. Compression ratios from 8.5:1 to 14.0:1 are available.
      Starting from $2,739

      I still say it is cheaper for you to source a crankshaft in Spain and source the pistons and connecting rods in the US.Answered your pm btw [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      08-01-2007 05:44 PM #15
      More options
      Eurospec Sport
      http://eurospecsport.com/stroker.htm
      They have several kits.
      I like to know much information on this type of pieces, in Spain much or nothing is seen
      And very interesting east is a subject
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      08-01-2007 05:51 PM #16
      Thank you very much!
      You are very good with this subject jeje
      I am looking for but information to see if I take the step
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      08-02-2007 06:42 PM #17
      Quote, originally posted by Gu4rDi4N »
      You are very good with this subject jeje

      Thanks,ive been doing alot of research into it as I plan on offering stroker kits to the community in 92.8mm and 95.5mm fashion that will NOT break pockets.
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    18. 08-02-2007 08:27 PM #18
      Quote, originally posted by Issam@BoostFactory »
      Thanks,ive been doing alot of research into it as I plan on offering stroker kits to the community in 92.8mm and 95.5mm fashion that will NOT break pockets.

      i'll be waiting for this

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      08-02-2007 09:28 PM #19
      Quote, originally posted by Issam@BoostFactory »
      Thanks,ive been doing alot of research into it as I plan on offering stroker kits to the community in 92.8mm and 95.5mm fashion that will NOT break pockets.

      How far off are these kits? Any details you can give about what will be included in the kits? I am very interested in this.
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      08-02-2007 09:57 PM #20
      Quote, originally posted by Chris164935 »
      How far off are these kits? Any details you can give about what will be included in the kits? I am very interested in this.

      * Second hand Crankshaft (actually running short right now).Why pay for a new one when a used one will do the job just fine.
      [Crank will obviously be cleaned,checked & polished]
      * JE pistons
      * SCAT Connecting rods
      * 034 Motorsport Antifriction Bearings

      ARP main studs & crankcase girdle will be extra.

    21. 08-03-2007 12:32 AM #21
      how much we lookin at?

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      08-03-2007 12:36 AM #22
      Quote, originally posted by QU1KGTI »
      how much we lookin at?

      ~ 1700 with the antifriction bearings.
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    23. 08-03-2007 11:06 AM #23
      Here's what happened to my Eurospec Race Stroker kit after 1500 miles of driving. Wish I had those 034 antifriction bearings in. Lack of lube somehow caused rod bearing failure in cylinder 1. Oil pressures were within spec. Oil and filter changed 5 times during the first 1500 miles. The machine shop did not use a torque plate when boring out the cylinders so this is what my pistons and cyl walls look like now...






      Before I did this build when I took off the head for the first time with 50K on it all my honing marks were still there. This is what it looks like with only 1500 miles on an bored and stroked engine build. Word to the wise, get your machine work done by people who have the proper equipment to do so like Cosworth. The shop I used acted at least like they knew what they were doing since they build V8 race motors for a living, but obviously mistakes were made. They are going over it right now and I should have word today what caused failure. I hope it's not a parts failure like I think it may be in the bottom end. The cylinders and pistons are screwed IMO because tolerances in the boring were not set correctly for piston ring seating... [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthdown.gif[/IMG]
      Hopefully with some machine work and thicker bearings I'll get to salvage this knife edged crank...




      Modified by CO AVANT at 8:27 AM 8-8-2007

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      08-03-2007 04:25 PM #24
      Isnt normally no?
      With stroker kit is all plug and play or need modify engine block?
      I dont have clear
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      08-03-2007 05:07 PM #25
      Quote, originally posted by CO AVANT »
      The machine shop did not use a torque plate when boring out the cylinders so this is what my pistons and cyl walls look like now

      Ok that explains the cylinder wall scoring but not the connecting rod.
      They obviously did not use any assembly lube.Whatever the case all repair damage would be @ them.
      Quote, originally posted by Gu4rDi4N »
      With stroker kit is all plug and play or need modify engine block?

      Any stroke greater than 92.8mm (i.e. 94.5mm,95.5mm,99mm & 100mm) require clearancing in your block.

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