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  1. Geriatric Member Chapel's Avatar
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    09-13-2007 10:26 AM #1
    Does anyone have a good template for a form that states in proper wording that no warranty is implied, expressed or written and car will be sold as-is.

    One of the buyers of my car expressed interest in drag racing and autocrossing my car... and I don't want to hear back from him if he decides to race it and blow the tranny to kingdom come.


  2. 09-13-2007 10:30 AM #2
    google "Auto Bill of Sale"

    You will find many...


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    09-13-2007 10:39 AM #3
    Most bill of sale forms actually do include a warranty that the title is valid and that you as the seller have the rights to sell it. I don't think it's really necessary to add that if the buyer doesn't care, but I am not a lawyer.

    http://www.ilrg.com/forms/wrntybil.html

    cars.com has a good free generic form.. you might want to just copy'n'paste the "as is" section from the cars.com form into the simpler form above.

    http://siy.cars.com/siy/bosOptions.jsp

    don't worry about the state-specific stuff... that's just for cases like Maryland where a notary has to be involved if the car is under 7 years old...

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    09-13-2007 10:43 AM #4
    in MA, the only Lemon Law to worry about is if the car fails inspection, which it won't. But this guy kinda wants me to guarantee things won't break... which is absurd, especially considering he said he'd race it.

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    09-13-2007 10:44 AM #5
    Sent you a PM. Drop me a line and I'll send you mine.

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    09-13-2007 10:45 AM #6
    Yeah, the hell with that.

    Asking for a warranty with a private car sale, even on a stock beige Camry, is like asking for financing.

    Of course, people have asked me for financing.

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    09-13-2007 10:47 AM #7
    Quote, originally posted by AKADriver »
    Yeah, the hell with that.

    Asking for a warranty with a private car sale, even on a stock beige Camry, is like asking for financing.

    Of course, people have asked me for financing.

    um, people have asked me for financing on the car too.


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    09-13-2007 10:48 AM #8
    google "as is, bill of sale"

    or write your own up


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    09-13-2007 10:55 AM #9
    I write my own up every time, but never anything that detailed.

    "I, _____(buyer name)________, purchased 200X Subraru WRX Wagon, VIN # __________________, for $_______ from ___(seller name___________ on September 13, 2007, in AS IS condition.

    -Buyer signature
    -Seller signature"

    If a guy is asking for any more guaranty than that, I'd say "Nope, sorry."

    A few years ago I sold my dad's 1984 Audi 5000 turbo for $1000, and I had a woman hounding me to let her make payments on it.

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    09-13-2007 10:58 AM #10
    Quote, originally posted by Chapel »
    no warranty is implied, expressed or written and car will be sold as-is.

    That's a very good start right there. A bill of sale template I got from nolo.com used similar language: "seller makes no express warranties. buyer takes vehicle as is."

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  11. 09-13-2007 11:10 AM #11
    Quote, originally posted by Big M »

    A few years ago I sold my dad's 1984 Audi 5000 turbo for $1000, and I had a woman hounding me to let her make payments on it.

    That's just stupid. I would have told her, sure you can make payments...but you aren't getting the car until I'm paid in full... People are so retarded.


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    09-13-2007 11:28 AM #12
    Quote, originally posted by Chapel »
    in MA, the only Lemon Law to worry about is if the car fails inspection, which it won't. But this guy kinda wants me to guarantee things won't break... which is absurd, especially considering he said he'd race it.


    Some d-bag actually took my father to court after he blew the clutch on the Jeep he sold the guy. Heck, the guy stalled 3 times driving downhill when he came to pick the Jeep up…..

    But, 2 nice pics and the following custom Bill Of Sale was all dad needed to get the case dismissed:

    Model:
    Make:
    VIN #

    Date:

    The (enter vehicle name) was sold for (enter sale amount) to (enter buyer name). The previous owner (enter name) is selling the vehicle in AS-IS, AS-TESTED condition. NO warranties are offered or implied. Upon completion of sale, the previous owner (enter name) has no further obligation to this vehicle or the new owner (enter new owner name).

    Seller Sig & Date:
    Buyer Sig & Date:


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    09-13-2007 12:02 PM #13
    also, I have a lien on the car
    I suspect I should put something to the effect of: a title will be produced once payment to my lienholder has been received and the title has been released.

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    09-13-2007 12:05 PM #14
    oh, also, the mileage displayed on the installed odometer (from a 2005 STI) is inaccurate, but there is a 'odometer swap' sticker on the B pillar
    how do you work that out in paper?

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    09-13-2007 07:44 PM #15
    Check your state's website for their downloadable form. As an example, here is the Utah form:

    http://tax.utah.gov/forms/current/tc-843.pdf

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    09-13-2007 07:48 PM #16
    I know for a fact, at least all the cars I have bought and sold, all you need is "SOLD AS IS" and your golden.

    With the mileage, on the title there is a spot where the mileage is and all you do is check the box for "mileage over mechanical limits"

    Don't know anything about liens on cars though, all the ones I have bought except for my OB were cash.

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  17. 09-13-2007 08:08 PM #17
    Quote, originally posted by Chapel »
    Does anyone have a good template for a form that states in proper wording that no warranty is implied, expressed or written and car will be sold as-is.

    One of the buyers of my car expressed interest in drag racing and autocrossing my car... and I don't want to hear back from him if he decides to race it and blow the tranny to kingdom come.

    Buyer __________ understands...

    Quote, originally posted by Chapel »
    no warranty is implied, expressed or written and car is sold as-is.

    Item/Car:

    Vin:

    Dated:

    Buyer:

    Seller:


    (bold added for tense correction)

    You pretty much have the language already, you just need to formalize it.


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    09-13-2007 08:41 PM #18
    I emailed ya the copy, Jared.

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  19. 09-13-2007 09:48 PM #19
    Wait, your selling the subie? what are you getting for replacement?
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