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    Thread: mk5 Jetta/Golf 4motion conversion findings

    1. 11-12-2008 10:24 AM #126
      excited to see more progress!!

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      11-12-2008 10:35 AM #127
      I might be shipping few more parts from EU soon: front axles, flywheel/clutch, starter, and not related to this project turbo.

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      11-14-2008 09:03 AM #128

      That is really going to make swaps into old chassis's alot nicer.

    4. 11-19-2008 07:36 PM #129
      I love this thread!

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      11-19-2008 09:15 PM #130
      Little update: I got the rear brake pipe today. Funny story is no VW in NA uses this line, only Audi. There was a bit of confusion at the dealership, but the order went through.

      I am hoping the next thing I post here will be pics of stuff from EU...

    6. 11-22-2008 01:01 AM #131
      wow just amazing.. maybe I missed it.. but could you do a full parts list of items needed for this swap? I got a 2.0T jetta.. i guess our rides are the same except the gear ratio's..

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      11-22-2008 01:41 AM #132
      Quote, originally posted by bwzimmerman »
      wow just amazing.. maybe I missed it.. but could you do a full parts list of items needed for this swap? I got a 2.0T jetta.. i guess our rides are the same except the gear ratio's..

      Maybe the gearbox from S3 will fit?

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      11-22-2008 09:48 AM #133
      Quote, originally posted by bwzimmerman »
      wow just amazing.. maybe I missed it.. but could you do a full parts list of items needed for this swap? I got a 2.0T jetta.. i guess our rides are the same except the gear ratio's..

      There is no such list yet. The reasons are as follows:
      1. It will be extensive to list all the parts one by one
      2. I still do not know all the parts that need to be swapped, e.g. I recently found out that 4Motion ABS module uses different duo/multiple sensor module.
      3. It sounds impossible, but not all the parts are listed in ETKA, e.g. I could not find PN for oem exhaust for EU-spec Golf Variant 4M.


      Modified by maloosheck at 6:54 AM 11-22-2008

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      11-22-2008 11:02 AM #134
      Quote, originally posted by maloosheck »

      2. I still do not know all the parts that need to be swapped, e.g. I recently found out that 4Motion ABS module uses different

      Where I can found that information from my car
      ABS module serial number?
      Or perhaps complete scan will help?

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      11-22-2008 11:26 AM #135
      Quote, originally posted by jaah »
      Where I can found that information from my car ABS module serial number?

      Thanks for your help, but it is not that easy.

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      11-23-2008 03:13 PM #137
      Quote, originally posted by jaah »
      http://tos.pp.fi/koukku/22112008.3gp

      I did not realize Golf V is used as a snow plough in Finland ...

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      11-23-2008 03:30 PM #138
      Quote, originally posted by maloosheck »
      I did not realize Golf V is used as a snow plough in Finland ...

      Many times
      Someday I will shoot a better video with my sony handycam

      Here are couple videos from winter driving academy of world rally champion. Recorded from TV.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l5uXjZthJU
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated
      And his web site:
      http://www.juhakankkunen.com/


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      11-23-2008 04:03 PM #139
      I know Juha Kankkunen. I used to watch WRC when I was in EU.
      There are some excellent pictures on his website.
      BTW The only words I got from the clips were Haldex, Torsen and ESP ...

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      11-24-2008 01:18 AM #140
      Quote, originally posted by maloosheck »
      I know Juha Kankkunen. I used to watch WRC when I was in EU.
      There are some excellent pictures on his website.
      BTW The only words I got from the clips were Haldex, Torsen and ESP ...

      He says: Torsen is the best.

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      11-24-2008 10:11 AM #141
      Two more items crossed out of the list: ABS pump/controller and ABS multi-sensor.
      Bonus feature of the ABS controller I found is Hill-Holding. Not that I really need it, but it will be nice to have it (I wish I had it in San Fran ). I need to check if it requires additional button as in Tig or it works straight forward (as in my wife's MCS).

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      11-29-2008 01:01 PM #142
      so was it determined that the transfer case could be bolted to the US FWD 6MT? or would the input shaft not work?
      im glad i found this thread, i have been mulling an AWD conversion through my head for the last week or so. would the 02M 121C 4WD from the 2.0t S3 work on the GTI?
      also also you completely clarified the ?'s i had about how the Haldex controller works with the ECM.
      cheers! and good luck!
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      11-29-2008 06:55 PM #143
      Quote, originally posted by YoungMedic »
      so was it determined that the transfer case could be bolted to the US FWD 6MT? or would the input shaft not work?

      AFAIK no.
      Quote, originally posted by YoungMedic »
      would the 02M 121C 4WD from the 2.0t S3 work on the GTI?

      That should work just fine.
      Quote, originally posted by YoungMedic »
      also also you completely clarified the ?'s i had about how the Haldex controller works with the ECM.

      No, this is still open. If my ECM will not work, I will grab 2.0L TDI CR 170HP from EU Tig 4M and swap the engine .

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      11-30-2008 11:29 AM #144
      haha, way to work the problem!
      thanks
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      12-05-2008 08:25 AM #145
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      12-05-2008 01:36 PM #146
      Skimmed through this very interesting thread and didn't see this mentioned, but another reason the R32 rear pan is different is becasue the battery is in the trunk. Not sure if this is the same with other 4Motion MkVs.

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      12-05-2008 01:52 PM #147
      Quote, originally posted by Pelican18TQA4 »
      Skimmed through this very interesting thread and didn't see this mentioned, but another reason the R32 rear pan is different is becasue the battery is in the trunk. Not sure if this is the same with other 4Motion MkVs.

      2nd page:

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      12-05-2008 01:54 PM #148
      Saw the pic, didn't see any reference to the battery. My mistake!

    24. 12-12-2008 05:18 PM #149
      Good luck on the project! I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    25. 12-12-2008 08:06 PM #150
      Wow, I remembered this thread from when it started, but I'm glad that you've been finally making progress!
      So why are you going with a dual mass flywheel instead of a single mass? If there isn't a difference in flywheels and clutches between FWD and AWD transmissions, then you should be able to use a G60 flywheel and VR6 clutch. Most people over at tdiclub.com would probably suggest this over a dual mass flywheel. I'm mostly curious, as these would be easier and cheaper to get than the ones from a PD170, though it looks like you've already got them.
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