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    Thread: mk5 Jetta/Golf 4motion conversion findings

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      11-24-2008 10:11 AM #141
      Two more items crossed out of the list: ABS pump/controller and ABS multi-sensor.

      Bonus feature of the ABS controller I found is Hill-Holding. Not that I really need it, but it will be nice to have it (I wish I had it in San Fran ). I need to check if it requires additional button as in Tig or it works straight forward (as in my wife's MCS).


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      11-29-2008 01:01 PM #142
      so was it determined that the transfer case could be bolted to the US FWD 6MT? or would the input shaft not work?

      im glad i found this thread, i have been mulling an AWD conversion through my head for the last week or so. would the 02M 121C 4WD from the 2.0t S3 work on the GTI?

      also also you completely clarified the ?'s i had about how the Haldex controller works with the ECM.

      cheers! and good luck!

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      11-29-2008 06:55 PM #143
      Quote, originally posted by YoungMedic »
      so was it determined that the transfer case could be bolted to the US FWD 6MT? or would the input shaft not work?

      AFAIK no.

      Quote, originally posted by YoungMedic »
      would the 02M 121C 4WD from the 2.0t S3 work on the GTI?

      That should work just fine.

      Quote, originally posted by YoungMedic »
      also also you completely clarified the ?'s i had about how the Haldex controller works with the ECM.

      No, this is still open. If my ECM will not work, I will grab 2.0L TDI CR 170HP from EU Tig 4M and swap the engine .


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      11-30-2008 11:29 AM #144
      haha, way to work the problem!

      thanks

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      12-05-2008 08:25 AM #145
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      12-05-2008 01:36 PM #146
      Skimmed through this very interesting thread and didn't see this mentioned, but another reason the R32 rear pan is different is becasue the battery is in the trunk. Not sure if this is the same with other 4Motion MkVs.

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      12-05-2008 01:52 PM #147
      Quote, originally posted by Pelican18TQA4 »
      Skimmed through this very interesting thread and didn't see this mentioned, but another reason the R32 rear pan is different is becasue the battery is in the trunk. Not sure if this is the same with other 4Motion MkVs.

      2nd page:


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      12-05-2008 01:54 PM #148
      Saw the pic, didn't see any reference to the battery. My mistake!

    9. 12-12-2008 05:18 PM #149
      Good luck on the project! I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product.

    10. 12-12-2008 08:06 PM #150
      Wow, I remembered this thread from when it started, but I'm glad that you've been finally making progress!

      So why are you going with a dual mass flywheel instead of a single mass? If there isn't a difference in flywheels and clutches between FWD and AWD transmissions, then you should be able to use a G60 flywheel and VR6 clutch. Most people over at tdiclub.com would probably suggest this over a dual mass flywheel. I'm mostly curious, as these would be easier and cheaper to get than the ones from a PD170, though it looks like you've already got them.

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      12-12-2008 10:35 PM #151
      Quote, originally posted by Berlinetta Boxer »
      So why are you going with a dual mass flywheel instead of a single mass? If there isn't a difference in flywheels and clutches between FWD and AWD transmissions, then you should be able to use a G60 flywheel and VR6 clutch. Most people over at tdiclub.com would probably suggest this over a dual mass flywheel. I'm mostly curious, as these would be easier and cheaper to get than the ones from a PD170, though it looks like you've already got them.

      The mayor reason is PD170 (and all PD100, PD140) in mk5 Golf/Jetta paired with 6MT tranny use 240mm clutch. G60/VR6 is 228mm.

      The other reason are vibrations from SMF.

      I am planning to keep my G60/VR6 setup just in case I decide to go back to it, but at this point I want to try PD170 DMF/clutch.


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      12-12-2008 11:01 PM #152
      I admire your DIY-ness but if I was looking for an AWD TDI, I would wait for an xdrive BMW 335d or a 4motion 170 hp Passat CC.
      Once you go "clack", you never go back.

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      12-12-2008 11:59 PM #153
      Quote, originally posted by rallydiesel »
      I admire your DIY-ness but if I was looking for an AWD TDI, I would wait for an xdrive BMW 335d or a 4motion 170 hp Passat CC.

      And I would wait for R8 V12 TDI .

      Not sure if 335xd will ever come to US. Plus it will most likely be in auto only. Same with CC: current gasser vr6 is sold with auto (not-DSG) only. The stupidest configuration ever invented.

      But I would love Audi A4 Avant with V6 TDI 6MT AWD. The day it hits this shore, I wrap up my Jetta and let it go.


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      12-13-2008 02:51 PM #154
      hey i'm the dude who lives in cville and asked about a month ago or so if i could come see your project in sterling. looks really cool just wonderin you'd still be down to let me see it.

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      12-13-2008 06:47 PM #155
      IM sent.

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      12-13-2008 07:34 PM #156
      saw you im'd me. not quite sure when. I can let you know tomorrow probably and then I guess we'll also see when would be convenient for you.

    17. 12-15-2008 11:59 AM #157
      Wow, this looks great, I had thought about this on my GLI but did not have the money or time, can't wait to see this finished.. great work so far.
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      12-31-2008 09:33 AM #158
      I was able to locate the 4M TDI fuel tank real cheap. The problem is this thing is big, so my carrier will not be able to bring it here. Any leads for how to have it shipped here in the least expensive way are highly appreciated.

      Anybody stationing in EU, who plans to come back soon and could help me with that?


      Modified by maloosheck at 9:38 AM 12-31-2008


    19. 01-16-2009 11:37 AM #159
      any updates? Great project!

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      01-16-2009 10:39 PM #160
      Quote, originally posted by Gotsol »
      any updates? Great project!

      Not much. Have a bunch of stuff to ship from EU and looking for the most inexpensive option. Once it all is here, I should be able to start tranny swap.


    21. 01-17-2009 02:31 AM #161
      A+++ on this project. You should get a PhD in Volkswagens when you're done with this. I was thinking of doing a 4-motion GTI myself, and your thread has encouraged me even more. Anyway you can post a gathered list of all the parts you would need? Also, how are you setting the coding? With a normal ROSStech VAG cable?
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      01-25-2009 10:51 AM #162
      Quote, originally posted by Hello Bob »
      Anyway you can post a gathered list of all the parts you would need?

      As soon as I finalize the project, the parts will be listed. At this point it is hard to determine if I still need anything else.

      Quote, originally posted by Hello Bob »
      Also, how are you setting the coding? With a normal ROSStech VAG cable?

      Now, this is an excellent question, but I do not know the answer. Everything can be coded with VCDS, but the list of modules that need to be recoded is still unknown.


    23. 01-26-2009 02:27 AM #163
      Bro- you're my hero. I will reward you with my hot asian wife after this project is over.
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      01-26-2009 09:11 AM #164
      Quote, originally posted by Hello Bob »
      Bro- you're my hero. I will reward you with my hot asian wife after this project is over.

      If my wife reads that, the project will never be finished, because she will kill me first .


    25. 01-26-2009 01:59 PM #165
      Quote, originally posted by maloosheck »

      If my wife reads that, the project will never be finished, because she will kill me first .

      If MY wife reads that, I won't be able to read the rest of your write ups!

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      02-17-2009 11:10 PM #166
      any updates?

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      02-17-2009 11:24 PM #167
      Quote, originally posted by Teknojnky »
      any updates?

      Hopefully by the end of March I should have all I need for tranny swap in my hands.


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      02-26-2009 01:58 AM #168
      Hi..

      I found some weird oil leak (maybe) from bevel box.
      http://tos.pp.fi/images/album/vuoto/
      ^It needs / to the end, and then the adress should work.

      Did you have any pictures; if there is some kind of breather tube or something in bevel box or gearbox?

      I checked oil levels: normal
      Thanx

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      02-26-2009 09:31 AM #169
      Quote, originally posted by jaah »
      I found some weird oil leak (maybe) from bevel box.

      http://tos.pp.fi/images/image/vuoto/DSC00104.JPG

      What is this wire connected to? Oil level sensor in the oil pan?


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      02-26-2009 10:54 AM #170
      Quote, originally posted by maloosheck »

      What is this wire connected to? Oil level sensor in the oil pan?


      Yes thats it

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      02-26-2009 12:38 PM #171
      I found this from etka, 5B

      There is a breather.
      Maybe I have just a little hope, and it was frozen and then just a few oil comes out.


      Modified by jaah at 7:42 PM 2-26-2009


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      03-02-2009 09:46 AM #172
      Update: ok, I found a fuel tank and a shaft. And Rich from oempl.us offered his help with shipping everything to US. The last parts missing are rear hubs, which I can source here.

      So hopefully next winter / snow driving will be easier with a little help of 4Motion...


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      03-03-2009 06:59 AM #173
      All the best
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      03-03-2009 05:42 PM #174
      sorry if this is common knowledge already, but you'll need the front diff out of a AWD car and if you use a FWD bell housing, you'll need to rip it all down and swap the AWD front diff in....

      Again sorry if its common knowledge I just ran through this with my syncro... I put O2J gearset in my 02c.

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    35. 03-04-2009 01:49 PM #175
      pm sent

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