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    Thread: mk5 Jetta/Golf 4motion conversion findings

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      03-01-2015 03:03 AM #426
      Quote Originally Posted by wvwzzz1kz7 View Post
      The wiring is not the issue, that is simple and is already described in this thread. The integration is done over the system arhitecture, the communication with the engine, ESP and other controllers runs over CAN. The Haldex is deeply integrated into the vehicle electronics.
      I must have missed that part. I'll review it later
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    2. 04-03-2015 03:09 PM #427
      sooo... will the r32 transfer case bolt into the 02q gti 6 sp manual trans ??
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    3. 04-03-2015 04:38 PM #428
      Quote Originally Posted by euro-sudaka View Post
      sooo... will the r32 transfer case bolt into the 02q gti 6 sp manual trans ??
      i read on someones thread that changing the fwd differential to an AWD peloquin will allow me to bolt the r32 transfer case to the stock GTI 02q ?? which peloquin diff though?? part number ??

      thanks
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      04-03-2015 08:56 PM #429
      Quote Originally Posted by euro-sudaka View Post
      i read on someones thread that changing the fwd differential to an AWD peloquin will allow me to bolt the r32 transfer case to the stock GTI 02q ?? which peloquin diff though?? part number ??

      thanks
      I don't know if this has ever been confirmed.

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      04-07-2015 09:36 AM #430
      Quote Originally Posted by euro-sudaka View Post
      i read on someones thread that changing the fwd differential to an AWD peloquin will allow me to bolt the r32 transfer case to the stock GTI 02q ?? which peloquin diff though?? part number ??

      thanks
      Yes, this is possible. I will be doing this as soon as my Golf R clutch housing case comes in.
      The 02Q transmissions are all the same on the other side (gear ratios are slightly different on some models) of the clutch housing including the case.
      I'm using this Peloquins 4motion/Quattro diff to do the conversion.
      I have a transfer case off of an 2012 Audi TT Quattro, but as far as I've researched, the transfer cases are largely the same between most of the Gen 4 Haldex transmissions.

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      04-22-2015 08:04 AM #431
      Quote Originally Posted by Charles@NGPRacing View Post
      Yes, this is possible. I will be doing this as soon as my Golf R clutch housing case comes in.
      The 02Q transmissions are all the same on the other side (gear ratios are slightly different on some models) of the clutch housing including the case.
      I'm using this Peloquins 4motion/Quattro diff to do the conversion.
      I have a transfer case off of an 2012 Audi TT Quattro, but as far as I've researched, the transfer cases are largely the same between most of the Gen 4 Haldex transmissions.
      So after spending some time with another 02Q transmission we had at the shop, it appears you do not need the AWD case to install the transfer case.
      You'll still need an AWD differential and the mounting bracket but not much else.





      If you're interested in seeing more 4motion conversion stuff, feel free to check out my build thread.
      I'll be posting up more pics of the transmission when we start that part of the build.

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      04-22-2015 09:03 AM #432
      Quote Originally Posted by Charles@NGPRacing View Post
      So after spending some time with another 02Q transmission we had at the shop, it appears you do not need the AWD case to install the transfer case.
      You'll still need an AWD differential and the mounting bracket but not much else.





      If you're interested in seeing more 4motion conversion stuff, feel free to check out my build thread.
      I'll be posting up more pics of the transmission when we start that part of the build.
      This is great information! Thanks.

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      04-22-2015 09:55 AM #433
      Thanks for keeping us updated! its cool that we are still finding out new stuff about this platform
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      04-22-2015 11:42 AM #434
      Quote Originally Posted by Waffle View Post
      This is great information! Thanks.
      Quote Originally Posted by KyleCrish View Post
      Thanks for keeping us updated! its cool that we are still finding out new stuff about this platform
      Not a problem, more than happy help you guys modify your VWs/Audis any way I can!

    10. 04-22-2015 09:38 PM #435
      Good stuff.... It might be a lot cheaper than I thought it would be ... Which mounting bracket are you using.. Any pics of that ?

      Me too I would like to swap this soon





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      04-23-2015 03:08 PM #436
      Quote Originally Posted by euro-sudaka View Post
      Good stuff.... It might be a lot cheaper than I thought it would be ... Which mounting bracket are you using.. Any pics of that ?

      Me too I would like to swap this soon
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      The mounting bracket in question is 02M409905AH.

      Here's the illustration of it in ETKA. It's part #1

    12. 04-26-2015 03:03 AM #437
      All this was already discussed in this thread. Malo has bolted the AWD differential on a FWD gearbox a long time ago. What is not mentioned here is, that VW has changed the ratio for almost all gears in the 4Motion gearboxes, so what you are building with bolting the AWD differential on a FWD tranny is not OEM. But it works.
      The bracket what you are mentioning was also discussed, I presented it myself some time ago when I made the conversion. There it has to be checked if the engine has the mounting holes for it. Engines that VW has not used in 4Motion models might not have it.
      Regards, Ed

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      05-01-2015 04:30 PM #438
      Quote Originally Posted by wvwzzz1kz7 View Post
      All this was already discussed in this thread. Malo has bolted the AWD differential on a FWD gearbox a long time ago. What is not mentioned here is, that VW has changed the ratio for almost all gears in the 4Motion gearboxes, so what you are building with bolting the AWD differential on a FWD tranny is not OEM. But it works.
      The bracket what you are mentioning was also discussed, I presented it myself some time ago when I made the conversion. There it has to be checked if the engine has the mounting holes for it. Engines that VW has not used in 4Motion models might not have it.
      Regards, Ed
      I don't mean to be rude, but I looked back through the thread again, and the transmission that he shows is a 4motion transmission.
      He even says it in his post on page 2:
      Quote Originally Posted by maloosheck View Post
      Well, it's time to move from theory to practice. I was in Europe in May and I found few parts from mk5 Golf 1.9 TDI 4Motion. After 3 months I have finally picked them up today. Here we go:
      1. 6-speed MT for TDI 4Motion (FWZ) - it might require some changes to the gear ratio in the future, but at this point the most important was it should bolt in to my engine without any problems.
      Once again, not trying to be rude, I've just never found any posts confirming that the FWD transmission will work with the transfer case and figured others would like to know this wonderful information.

    14. 06-28-2015 04:55 PM #439
      yeah Charles I read the thread as well and it was never confirmed... that's why I asked the question again... so thank you again for taking the time to see if it would work..

      anyways..

      have you done the convertion yet ??
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      06-28-2015 08:05 PM #440
      One thing I am sure about is transfer case has 2 input shafts: inner for right front axle and outer for rear differential. So the real question is if FWD tranny differential has this pre-diff outer output shaft for rear diff. I did not have time to research this.

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      06-30-2015 01:00 AM #441
      Quote Originally Posted by maloosheck View Post
      One thing I am sure about is transfer case has 2 input shafts: inner for right front axle and outer for rear differential. So the real question is if FWD tranny differential has this pre-diff outer output shaft for rear diff. I did not have time to research this.
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