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    Thread: mk5 Jetta/Golf 4motion conversion findings

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      03-27-2014 06:51 PM #386
      OK so I'm all caught up on this whole thing. The only thing I think I may have missed is what tranny Is being used? Will a 6 speed manual work? And if it works for your TDI it should work the same for my 2.5 correct?

    2. 03-30-2014 03:09 AM #387
      Hi!

      You should check if there is a 6 gear AWD gearbox that fits on the 2,5 engine. The AWD gearbox is also connected to the engine with a bracket where the right drive shaft is connected to the gearbox. See the black bracket on the picture below:

      There are many brackets for different engines available, it has to be checked if on the 2,5 you have the mounting holes and if one of the existing brackets fits. Without this bracket you might have issues later.

      I am doing a Jetta AWD conversion right now in Germany, you can take a look here:
      http://www.team-dezent.at/9869-jetta.../thread17.html

      It is in german, but the pictures help a lot.

      Regards,
      Ed

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      03-30-2014 07:59 AM #388
      You thread does help even though it's in german. At least I can go through the pics and get an idea of where to look for possible issues. I do have one question. I believe in this thread it was said that the shallower spare tire area of the jetta is what is needed, not the deeper spare tire of the golf. In your pictures it looks like the deeper one is what is needed. Any clarification on this?

    4. 03-30-2014 08:42 AM #389
      There is no shallow and deep version for the Jetta. As the Jetta has the same floor pan as the Golf Variant (I Think is called Jetta Sportwagon in the US), I have compared the trunk floor between Jetta and Sportwagon FWD and the partnumber was the same. Than I purchased the trunk floor pan from the Sportwagon 4Motion, and found that only a small portion is different there. You can see in my pictures, my finger showes that region on the new trunk floor pan. This difference is only due to the exhaust pipe. The rear axle with Haldex fits without changing anything on the Jetta floor pan.
      Regards, Ed

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      03-30-2014 11:22 AM #390
      OK good that's what I thought. As far as electronics go, is there anything that has to be changed with the electronics I have already or is the 4motion pretty much it's own stand alone system? I have ESP on my vehicle. I'm not sure if that runs through my ECU at all. Would the 4motion hook up to that without issues?

    6. 03-30-2014 12:29 PM #391
      With a 2008 version you might be lucky with the ESP; in my case (2007) I needed a new one. Check if you have an ESP MK60 as I had or MK60 EC1.

      New parts:
      - replaced ESP unit (complete unit)
      - replaced acceleration sensor unit for the ESP
      - replaced the rear axle sensor for the Xenon (only with Xenon)
      - new second fuel level sensor
      - replaced 2x rear wheel speed sensors

      Wiring:
      - changed ESP wiring (same connector but different pin assignment + 1 new pin)
      - new wiring for second fuel sensor
      - new wiring for Haldex

      Coding:
      - chenged the engine
      - set up the AWD in the gateway
      - changed headlight aim control (only with Xenon)

      Regards, Ed

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      03-30-2014 01:21 PM #392
      Where would I be able to find what ESP I have?

    8. 03-30-2014 03:04 PM #393
      You can do a scan with VCDS, under 03 / Component you will find the type of the ESP.
      Regards, Ed

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      03-30-2014 06:45 PM #394
      Ah I see. Awesome thanks for the info! I'm in the beginning stages of this whole thing and because of money it's gonna be a few years till its completed, but right now what I really need is knowledge and information.


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      05-02-2014 04:08 PM #396
      Quote Originally Posted by wvwzzz1kz7 View Post
      Good job!

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      05-06-2014 08:09 AM #397
      Nice! Do you have pics of the underbody? What tranny and engine did you use?

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    12. 05-06-2014 03:40 PM #398
      Hi!

      Engine: BMM
      Gearbox: JLR
      And here is the underbody:


      But I think you were asking for this:







      See also here:
      http://www.team-dezent.at/9869-jetta.../thread22.html

      Regards,
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      05-06-2014 04:27 PM #399
      Wow that's awesome. Did you have to cut anything? It's all pretty much bolt on isn't it? Did you use a stand alone setup for the haldex system or how does that all work?

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    14. 05-06-2014 05:00 PM #400
      We had to cut for two things:

      1. opening for the second fuel tank gauge - here is the sheet metal under the rear seat already formed as it is used also for the Golf 5 Variant 4Motion (Jetta Sportwagon), just has to be cut out:



      2. spare wheel mold due to exhaust: here we used a Golf 5 Variant 4Motion part



      This step you need only for TDI if you use the OEM exhaust. If you fabricate your own exhaust, this is not needed.

      For bolting on, you just need
      - for fuel tank: a new weld nut and a new welded bracket, see marked in red in the second picture in this post
      - for prop shaft: two welded brackets:


      No big deal if done properly.

      I do not understand what you mean with stand alone, the Haldex is completely integrated in the electronics of the car.

      Regards, Ed
      Last edited by wvwzzz1kz7; 05-06-2014 at 05:03 PM.

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      05-07-2014 08:18 AM #401
      How do you integrate it though? If the car doesn't come stock with AWD how is the old system going to recognize the Haldex?

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      05-07-2014 09:21 AM #402
      Quote Originally Posted by wvwzzz1kz7 View Post
      I do not understand what you mean with stand alone, the Haldex is completely integrated in the electronics of the car.
      I have a question regard this: Can you run Haldex without error codes and CEL if ECU is coded to 6-speed manual FWD transmission? You have BMM engine, it has coding for both FWD & AWD, but here in the US we have BRM engine and it only has coding for FWD (manual/DSG).

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      05-07-2014 11:01 AM #403
      There ya go that's what I was trying to ask! I'm still kinda learning some of this stuff.

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    18. 05-07-2014 02:50 PM #404
      Manual 6 Speed gearbox is no issue. I will try to get the BMM engine coded back to FWD and post a scan.
      But just a question, was there any Audi A3 TDI Quattro or VW Jetta Sportwagon TDI 4Motion sold on the US market?
      Regards, Ed

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      05-07-2014 04:20 PM #405
      Quote Originally Posted by wvwzzz1kz7 View Post
      Manual 6 Speed gearbox is no issue. I will try to get the BMM engine coded back to FWD and post a scan.
      But just a question, was there any Audi A3 TDI Quattro or VW Jetta Sportwagon TDI 4Motion sold on the US market?
      Regards, Ed
      I am not aware of any TDI 4Motion on the US market other than Touareg, but I did not pay much attention to Audi. If there is any, it will be newer Common Rail TDI engine rather than old good (not) PD...

    20. 05-08-2014 02:24 PM #406
      Guys, it seams that you will be lucky. I changed the engine coding from 172 (4Motion) to 072 (FWD), and no fault codes, it works:

      Donnerstag,08,Mai,2014,18:43:53:19761
      VCDS -- Windows-basierter VAG/VAS-Emulator
      VCDS Version: PCI 12.12.2.0
      Datenstand: 20140225


      Fahrzeug-Ident.-Nr.: WVWZZZ1KZ7Mxxxxxxx KFZ-Kennzeichen: simply different
      Kilometerstand: 197290km Reparaturauftrag: 2014-05-08_001



      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


      Fahrzeugtyp: 1K (1K0)
      Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 18 19 22 25 37 42 44 46 52 55 56 62
      69 6C 72 77

      Fahrzeug-Ident.-Nr.: WVWZZZ1KZ7Mxxxxxxx Kilometerstand: 197290km

      01-Motorelektronik -- Status: i.O. 0000
      03-Bremsenelektronik -- Status: i.O. 0000
      04-Lenkwinkelsensor -- Status: i.O. 0000
      08-Klima-/Heizungsel. -- Status: i.O. 0000
      09-Zentralelektrik -- Status: i.O. 0000
      10-Einparkhilfe 2 -- Status: i.O. 0000
      15-Airbag -- Status: i.O. 0000
      16-Lenkradelektronik -- Status: i.O. 0000
      17-Schalttafeleinsatz -- Status: i.O. 0000
      18-Standheizung -- Status: Fehler 0010
      19-Diagnoseinterface -- Status: i.O. 0000
      22-Allrad -- Status: i.O. 0000
      25-Wegfahrsperre -- Status: i.O. 0000
      37-Navigation -- Status: i.O. 0000
      42-Türelektr. Fahrer -- Status: i.O. 0000
      44-Lenkhilfe -- Status: i.O. 0000
      46-Komfortsystem -- Status: i.O. 0000
      52-Türelektr. Beifahr. -- Status: i.O. 0000
      55-Leuchtweitenreg. -- Status: i.O. 0000
      56-Radio -- Status: i.O. 0000
      62-Türelektr. hi. li. -- Status: i.O. 0000
      69-Anhänger -- Status: i.O. 0000
      6C-Rückfahrkamera -- Status: i.O. 0000
      72-Türelektr. hi. re. -- Status: i.O. 0000
      77-Telefon -- Status: i.O. 0000

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 01: Motorelektronik Labeldatei: PCI\03G-906-021-BMM.clb
      Teilenummer SW: 03G 906 021 JG HW: 03G 906 021 AB
      Bauteil: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG 9392
      Revision: --H02--- Seriennummer: VWZ7Z0F4484725
      Codierung: 0000072
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 6DD4411E74DCCF76401-8038

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
      Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 03: Bremsenelektronik Labeldatei: 1K0-614-517-MK60-A.lbl
      Teilenummer SW: 1K0 614 517 AD HW: 1K0 614 517 AD
      Bauteil: ESP 4MOTION MK60-AT 0102
      Revision: 00H14001
      Codierung: 0006786
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 70327 141 99291
      VCID: 69DC350E4034D3562C9-803C

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 08: Klima-/Heizungsel. (J255) Labeldatei: PCI\5K0-907-044.clb
      Teilenummer SW: 5K0 907 044 AM HW: 5K0 907 044 AM
      Bauteil: Climatronic 130 0303
      Revision: 00002001
      Codierung: 0000000000
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 00000 000 00000
      ASAM Datensatz: EV_Climatronic A01001
      ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SE36.rod
      VCID: 76E66E72C98A0CAEB1B-8023

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 09: Zentralelektrik Labeldatei: PCI\3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
      Teilenummer SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
      Bauteil: Bordnetz-SG H54 2202
      Revision: 00H54000 Seriennummer: 00000006457571
      Codierung: E7038E2701041500470000000F000000000954005C00000C00 0000000000
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 01357 011 00200
      VCID: 71EC5D6E68E42B96649-8024

      Subsystem 1 - Teilenummer: 1K1 955 119 E Labeldatei: PCI\1KX-955-119.CLB
      Bauteil: Wischer 260806 020 0501
      Codierung: 00040853
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 01357

      Subsystem 2 - Teilenummer: 1K0 955 559 AE Labeldatei: PCI\1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
      Bauteil: RLS 130606 014 1201
      Codierung: 00471077
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 01357

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 10: Einparkhilfe 2 (J446) Labeldatei: PCI\3C8-919-475.clb
      Teilenummer SW: 1K5 919 475 HW: 1K5 919 475
      Bauteil: PARKHILFE 8K H07 0002
      Revision: -------- Seriennummer: --------------
      Codierung: 310001
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 01357 011 00200
      VCID: F4E2D47A57F69EBE0FF-80A1

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 15: Airbag Labeldatei: PCI\1K0-909-605.lbl
      Teilenummer SW: 1K0 909 605 T HW: 1K0 909 605 T
      Bauteil: 2J AIRBAG VW8 020 2300
      Revision: 05020000 Seriennummer: 0038PD0M4HNT
      Codierung: 0012874
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 3D74B15E643C9FF6B01-8068

      Subsystem 1 - Seriennummer: 6332MSME0F0C6E4DZ

      Subsystem 2 - Seriennummer: 6342MSME11224D498

      Subsystem 3 - Seriennummer: 6351HSME0A3C143DD

      Subsystem 4 - Seriennummer: 6361HSME0A3B12252

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 16: Lenkradelektronik Labeldatei: PCI\1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
      Teilenummer SW: 1K0 953 549 AQ HW: 1K0 953 549 AQ
      Bauteil: J0527 636 0070
      Codierung: 0002021
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 01357 011 00200
      VCID: 810C8DAED844BB16149-80D4

      Subsystem 1 - Teilenummer: XXXXXXXXXXX
      Bauteil: E0221 002 0010

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 17: Schalttafeleinsatz Labeldatei: PCI\1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
      Teilenummer SW: 1K0 920 873 B HW: 1K0 920 873 B
      Bauteil: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1610
      Revision: V0003000 Seriennummer: VWZ7Z0F4484725
      Codierung: 0021103
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 70327 141 194866
      VCID: 2B508F068A4801461E5-807E

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 18: Standheizung Labeldatei: PCI\1K0-815-007.clb
      Teilenummer: 1K0 815 007 AP
      Bauteil: Standheizer 020 3602
      Revision: 00020000 Seriennummer: 09011559000000
      Codierung: 0001012
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 72EE52626DE2108E9D3-8027

      1 Fehler gefunden:
      01415 - Umwälzpumpe (V55)
      010 - Unterbrechung/Kurzschluss nach Plus
      Freeze Frame:
      Fehlerstatus: 01101010
      Fehlerpriorität: 0
      Fehlerhäufigkeit: 1
      Verlernzähler: 110
      Kilometerstand: 197095 km
      Zeitangabe: 0
      Datum: 2000.00.00
      Zeit: 00:56:51

      Freeze Frame:
      aus
      Temperatur: 22.0°C
      Temperatur: 87.0°C


      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 19: Diagnoseinterface Labeldatei: PCI\1K0-907-530-V4.clb
      Teilenummer SW: 1K0 907 530 AD HW: 1K0 907 951
      Bauteil: J533 Gateway H07 0110
      Revision: H07 01 Seriennummer: 230309F1000758
      Codierung: E9A37F46404E02006002
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 01357 011 00200
      VCID: 69DC350E4034D3562C9-803C

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 22: Allrad Labeldatei: PCI\1K0-907-554.lbl
      Teilenummer: 1K0 907 554 L
      Bauteil: Haldex 4Motion 0116
      Codierung: 0000001
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: 3666AE72410A4CAE71B-8063

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 25: Wegfahrsperre Labeldatei: PCI\1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
      Teilenummer SW: 1K0 920 873 B HW: 1K0 920 873 B
      Bauteil: IMMO 3HL 1610
      Revision: V0003000 Seriennummer: VWZ7Z0F4484725
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: 2B508F068A4801461E5-807E

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 37: Navigation (J0506) Labeldatei: PCI\1T0-035-680.clb
      Teilenummer SW: 1T0 035 680 C HW: 1T0 035 680 C
      Bauteil: RNS-MID H41 2720
      Revision: AB001001 Seriennummer: VWZ6Z7Kxxxxxxx
      Codierung: 0A0104020400002000
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 00121 219 44717
      VCID: 2E568612795A746E39B-807B

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 42: Türelektr. Fahrer Labeldatei: PCI\1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
      Teilenummer SW: 1K0 959 701 Q HW: 1K0 959 793 M
      Bauteil: J386 TUER-SG FT 1133
      Revision: 31008001 Seriennummer: 00000520869213
      Codierung: 0000247
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 3C72BC5A7F2696FE87F-8069

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 44: Lenkhilfe Labeldatei: PCI\1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
      Teilenummer: 1K1 909 144 L
      Bauteil: EPS_ZFLS Kl.070 H07 1806
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 02069 000 90108
      VCID: 3462947A57765EBE4FF-8061

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 46: Komfortsystem Labeldatei: PCI\1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
      Teilenummer SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
      Bauteil: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0202
      Revision: 00020000 Seriennummer: 00000000000000
      Codierung: 40900A000106087F2D0284057008CFC6F0FC00
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 00066 123 12345
      VCID: 830087A6C258A906065-80D6

      Subsystem 1 - Teilenummer: 1K0 951 605 C
      Bauteil: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

      Subsystem 2 - Teilenummer: 1K0 951 178
      Bauteil: Neigungssensor 001 0101

      Subsystem 3 - Teilenummer: 1K0 951 178
      Bauteil: Innenraumueberw.001 0101

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 52: Türelektr. Beifahr. Labeldatei: PCI\1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
      Teilenummer SW: 1K0 959 702 Q HW: 1K0 959 792 M
      Bauteil: J387 TUER-SG BT 1131
      Revision: 31008001 Seriennummer: 00000526188209
      Codierung: 0000502
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 05311 000 00000
      VCID: 3D74B15E643C9FF6B01-8068

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 55: Leuchtweitenreg. Labeldatei: PCI\1T0-907-357.lbl
      Teilenummer: 1T0 907 357
      Bauteil: Dynamische LWR 0003
      Codierung: 0000004
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 01392 785 00200
      VCID: F4E2D47A97F69EBE0FF-80A1

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 56: Radio (J0506) Labeldatei: PCI\1T0-035-680.clb
      Teilenummer SW: 1T0 035 680 C HW: 1T0 035 680 C
      Bauteil: RNS-MID H41 2720
      Revision: AB001001 Seriennummer: VWZ6Z7Kxxxxxxx
      Codierung: 0A0104020400002000
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 00121 219 44717
      VCID: 2E568612795A746E39B-807B

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 62: Türelektr. hi. li. Labeldatei: PCI\1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
      Teilenummer SW: 1K0 959 703 Q HW: 1K0 959 795 J
      Bauteil: J388 TUER-SG HL 1120
      Revision: 12006001 Seriennummer: 00000003171891
      Codierung: 0000208
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 3E76B652693A84EEA9B-806B

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 69: Anhänger (J345) Labeldatei: PCI\1K0-907-383-MY8.lbl
      Teilenummer SW: 1K0 907 383 E HW: 1K0 907 383 E
      Bauteil: Anhaenger H07 0050
      Revision: 3A002002 Seriennummer: 00000116550873
      Codierung: 0100000100000000
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 01357 011 00200
      VCID: 2F689B167E507D6632D-807A

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adresse 6C: Rückfahrkamera Labeldatei: PCI\5N0-907-441.clb
      Teilenummer SW: 5N0 907 441 HW: 5N0 907 441
      Bauteil: J772__Rearview 0021
      Revision: 00H05000 Seriennummer: PA8 J830925
      Codierung: 0030010
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 01324 785 00200
      VCID: ECD2CC1ACFC6467ED7F-80B9

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

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      Adresse 72: Türelektr. hi. re. Labeldatei: PCI\1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
      Teilenummer SW: 1K0 959 704 Q HW: 1K0 959 794 J
      Bauteil: J389 TUER-SG HR 1120
      Revision: 12006001 Seriennummer: 00000003102399
      Codierung: 0000208
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 3F88CB566E308DE6A2D-806A

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

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      Adresse 77: Telefon Labeldatei: PCI\3C0-035-730.lbl
      Teilenummer SW: 5N0 035 730 C HW: 5N0 035 730 C
      Bauteil: J412 8506
      Revision: 00019000 Seriennummer: 0000330612042
      Codierung: 0000141
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 05314 000 00000
      VCID: 285A700A9BBE2A5EF37-807D

      Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

      Ende --------------------------------------------------------------------

      Regards, Ed

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      05-08-2014 02:34 PM #407
      Thanks! This was the last info I have been waiting for to start the project.

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      05-21-2014 02:11 PM #408
      Hpa has standalone haldex controllers.I know a guy with a mk4 gti converted to awd and he's using a toggle switch lol.Is haldex is either on or off.

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      I'm so excited this is starting back up
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      07-20-2014 04:46 PM #410
      Would 2010 Jetta setup be the same? It uses MK6 electronics
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      07-23-2014 09:50 PM #411
      There's a guy on golfmk5.com with username 20GLI08 who has a 2008 GLI with a 4motion swap in it... he may be of some help...
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      07-23-2014 09:55 PM #412
      Can't find him

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      07-23-2014 10:02 PM #413
      he doesn't have a build thread or anything, I saw him mention it in a post on another 4motion thread, and I've messaged him a few times about it.
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      07-24-2014 11:26 AM #414
      Another question... What's the gear ratio difference between say a tt or r32 diff ad transfer case compared to a diesel euro one? Is it 1:1? I was just trying to figure a few things out. Also would the fuel tank and pumps gti a gasser work in a diesel?


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    29. 07-24-2014 04:27 PM #415
      Quote Originally Posted by kyle_h View Post
      Would 2010 Jetta setup be the same? It uses MK6 electronics
      There are some differences on the 2010 Jetta, it has allready the EC1 ESP unit, and the Haldex Gen 4 instead of 2 should be used.


      Quote Originally Posted by kyle_h View Post
      Another question... What's the gear ratio difference between say a tt or r32 diff ad transfer case compared to a diesel euro one? Is it 1:1? I was just trying to figure a few things out. Also would the fuel tank and pumps gti a gasser work in a diesel?
      All Golf 5 and 6 based 4Motion models have ratio of 1,6 on the prop shaft in order to reduce the size of it. As a Gen 4 Haldex should be used, you can use any transfer case that was used on a VW with Gen 4 Haldex.
      Tank and pumps: do not mix gas and diesel components. It fits, but will not work without failures.

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      07-24-2014 08:20 PM #416
      I'm considering this in the future, but it's a big investment

      So sounds like I'm equipped for a simple swap...

      02Q manual, the case is the same for FWD and AWD, so theoretically I just need a 4motion diff, like an LSD, swap that in with some seals, and tranny is good for 4motion?

      ABS is good to go I guess? I have 1K0-907-379-AS ABS unit.

      I've checked out some Euro stuff and found the part numbers for the diesel 4motion fuel tank and both sending units.

      The rest should be a swap regardless of gas/diesel (suspension, brakes, subframe, driveshaft, angle drive, differential/haldex)

      I may start accumulating parts, my Jetta should have clearance for everything, with the exception of slight exhaust issues with spare tire area.
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