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    Thread: mk5 Jetta/Golf 4motion conversion findings

    1. 03-21-2008 09:09 PM #26
      What is the estimated cost and workload associated with the possible swap of a 4motion drivetrain into the MK5 chassis. I'd love to do this one the Rabbit, especially if it's about the same price as a turbo (without labor)

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      03-28-2008 12:30 AM #27
      Quote, originally posted by Audi4u »
      I was thinking of use using a audi tt 225 trans.

      Same bell housing as the inline-5?
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    3. 04-03-2008 02:40 PM #28
      inteerrestttinggg . .......

    4. 04-13-2008 05:50 AM #29
      any more info? What about us 2.0T owners? We got the Audi A4 2.0T Quattro to part from... right?

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      04-14-2008 09:53 AM #30
      Quote, originally posted by bwzimmerman »
      any more info? What about us 2.0T owners? We got the Audi A4 2.0T Quattro to part from... right?

      no, not "bolt on," because you are still dealing with completely different drivetrain setups. Audi A4 = longitudinal (w/ a center diff)
      your 2.0T = transverse (w/ PTU & Haldex)
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      05-12-2008 02:24 PM #31
      Quote, originally posted by Wizard-of-OD »
      Will cost you about 450-600US in shipping alone.Better to do it in a bulk shipment or have 1 of those specialty people (ecodeparts,etc) import it for you.

      Do you have any more details on how to ship anything from Europe? I found the transmission I want and I need to find out how to bring it.

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      05-13-2008 10:42 AM #32
      I am very interested in this thread and hoping I see a DIY come out of it. I purchased a DSG GTI, with hopes that it would be easier to source US parts to do the conversion. Looking forward to someone giving this a shot.
      Cheers,
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      05-13-2008 11:19 AM #33
      Quote, originally posted by djsaint »
      I am very interested in this thread and hoping I see a DIY come out of it. I purchased a DSG GTI, with hopes that it would be easier to source US parts to do the conversion. Looking forward to someone giving this a shot.

      With DSG gasser all you have to do is to save some money and find the totaled mk5 R32 (one was already in the mk5 classifieds)...

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      05-16-2008 06:55 PM #34
      whats the orientation of the tiguan 2.0t?
      after all is said and done probably better just buyin the tiguan
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    11. 05-17-2008 06:46 AM #36
      I wonder how much it weighs
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      05-17-2008 11:41 AM #37
      Quote, originally posted by EL_3grab »


      It looks like vr6 has the same bolt pattern as any 1.8/1.9/2.0/2.5 inline... Good to know. Seems the r32 mk5 could be a donor for any mk5...

    13. 05-23-2008 07:57 PM #38
      if this works, i'm gonna do this. this is so awsome.

    14. 05-25-2008 10:01 AM #39
      Quote, originally posted by maloosheck »

      It looks like vr6 has the same bolt pattern as any 1.8/1.9/2.0/2.5 inline... Good to know. Seems the r32 mk5 could be a donor for any mk5...

      Maybe because I just woke up, but the doesn't look as if the bolt pattern is the same as any other bolt pattern except for the vr6.
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      05-25-2008 10:12 AM #40
      Quote, originally posted by Audi4u »
      Maybe because I just woke up, but the doesn't look as if the bolt pattern is the same as any other bolt pattern except for the vr6.

      I think I was wrong. Indeed the pattern looks different.

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      05-25-2008 11:28 PM #41
      Sounds like an Audi TT or the (new) A3, 2.0T DSG Quattros are the best donor cars.
      Cheers,
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      05-26-2008 04:09 PM #42
      Quote, originally posted by Marshmallow Man »
      whats the orientation of the tiguan 2.0t?
      after all is said and done probably better just buyin the tiguan

      tiguan is oriented just like the golf. i'd assume most of the parts are plug and play (key word: assume). probably just a good of a suggestion.
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      05-26-2008 11:33 PM #43
      Quote, originally posted by jetta9103 »
      tiguan is oriented just like the golf. i'd assume most of the parts are plug and play (key word: assume). probably just a good of a suggestion.

      Except the Tiguan does not come with 4Motion with DSG or 6MT, I believe it is the same Aisin (read crap) transmission in the Passat.
      Cheers,
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      06-05-2008 12:41 PM #44
      nice auto trans but i like to see a 6spd 4motion trans that'll bolt on to 2.0T motor?
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      06-06-2008 09:53 AM #45
      I am looking for the pictures of the exhaust from the mk5 Golf/Golf Variant 4motion (TDI or gasser, but not R32).

    21. 06-14-2008 11:27 PM #46
      question for you all.
      lets speak on the jetta wagon...
      what all pain would i have to suffer to convert that beast?
      anyone gotten under one?

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      06-15-2008 11:19 AM #47
      It should be even easier. In EU they have Golf Variant TDI 4Motion, so it is just the matter of cash to bring the parts here.

    23. 06-16-2008 02:37 AM #48
      well, that's a great answer, however that's not quite where my question ends.
      i'm a mechanic, i'l weasel myself around the transmission however i have to, to get it in.
      i'm speaking more of how do you tell the car "hey, you're AWD now!"
      how do you tell the trans control module to start acting in 4mo?
      the drive train differential (referred to as "splitter") HAS to have some sort of electronic linkage to the vehicle for the engagement of electro-clutches...

      piecing the car together is easy, just getting it working is something else.
      also, do we have a price list for these?
      and for the trans, how exactly would i have it shipped over?
      does anyone have any model part numbers of the transmission, and who can i source the parts from?
      taken from VWoA's jetta sportswagon spec page:
      gear------regular DSG-----TDI DSG
      1st---------3.36 (3.46)----3.77 (3.46)
      2nd--------2.09 (2.15)----2.09 (2.05)
      3rd---------1.47 (1.46)-----1.32 (1.30)
      4th---------1.10 (1.08)----0.98 (0.90)
      5th---------1.11 (1.09)----0.98 (0.91)
      6th---------0.93 (0.92)----0.81 (0.76)
      R-----------1.64 (3.98)----4.55 (3.99)
      Final I-----3.94 (4.06)----3.45 (4.12)
      Final II----3.09 (3.14)----2.76 (3.04)

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      06-16-2008 08:42 AM #49
      Quote, originally posted by sipes216 »
      i'm speaking more of how do you tell the car "hey, you're AWD now!"
      how do you tell the trans control module to start acting in 4mo?
      the drive train differential (referred to as "splitter") HAS to have some sort of electronic linkage to the vehicle for the engagement of electro-clutches...

      Haldex has its own module controlling the rear drive clutch. The module uses CAN-BUS and hand brake signals to determine the need for engaging the rear drive. Haldex module uses ABS controller to provide the Haldex module with signals from acceleration sensor. Therefore, you need a car with ESP. There are few other signals used from the following sensors: rpms sensor, acceleration pedal position, all 4 wheel rotation sensors, both brakes sensors.
      I have seen the custom stand-alone Haldex control module that was not connected to the CAN-BUS and that was made solely for the drag racing. It allowed to transfer the power to the rear drive 0-100% and only for the first two or three gears.

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      06-22-2008 11:14 PM #50
      Just curious regarding the tranny out of the new r32. I have been wondering if the trans (being dsg only in us) would be a bolt on for the 2.0t? anyone have a clue? I currently have a dsg in my 08 gti and would love to dump some coin into a awd conversion or on the more crazy side Source a v10 tt toureg motor and drop that into my Gti

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