I just bought the Kumho's in a 235/60/16 from Big O. They were less than $125 each mounted and balanced. Fit fine, speedo reads close to correct now...it was always slow on the Dunlops
They were excellent in the snow...for all season tires...and also quite good in rain. I also find them surprisingly quiet, although as I wrote a year ago, it is hard to compare. I am quite happy and would not hesitate to recommend them to you or anyone else.
Just remember these are not dedicated snow tires. They are "good" in the snow, I think better than any other all season tire I have had, but they fall short of what a true snow tire would do for you. When I got my van new in 01 they gave me a set of rims with snows on them and those dedicated snow tires were unbelievable. I never drove on real snows before. Once those wore out, however, I was too cheap and lazy to replace them.
Bottom line, I have been very impressed with the all around performance of these tires.
Good luck on those snoy hills...if you ever get snow this winter!
Thanks, I hear you on the "if" regarding snow! Though we did get a foot that weekend before Halloween so I expect we should see something at some point. It's nuts now though.
Incidentally I have heard about these dealer rims but not able to find anything in my manual or online, was told by my guys at Eurotech in woodside. I was told they are a different size tire because the correct size was miserable in the snow. VW actually threw these in for free because of the awful snow performance. So, are they different? I'm thinking that my plan B will be to get a second set of steel rims and snows but want to right size them. What size are your snow tires?
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When I bought my van new it came with some nice Dunlop Sport tires. They were quiet and grippy, but wore out FAST. I am guessing someone complained that the van was advertised as coming with all season tires, and these were most definitely NOT all season. The van would not move on any type of incline in snow and ice and even on flat ground was scary in icy weather with those sport tires.
VW said they would sell all 01 owners a set of steel rims, with center caps and snow tires for $150 total, which seemed like a great deal to me. I ordered a set but when they came they said VW changed their mind and there was no charge.
The snows were Dunlops, 205/60R-16. The worn out tires are still on rims as I haven't bothered replacing them. For the few times I need snow tires, the cost and effort just wan't worth it. Interestingly when I went to the basement to check size of those old snow tires I noticed the load rating says 100/98H on these snow tires.
Update on the Nokian Entyres: These tires are really great, I'm very happy with them. They're quiet, the cabin sounds reduced dramatically when compared to the michelins I was running prior. Handling is improved. We didn't have much of a winter so I can't comment on snow performance, but will update next year. And, they're fully up to spec, including a high wear rating, so i'll hopefully get more than 40k miles out of these guys.
I tried Pirelli Scorpion tires in 235/60, but they were very noisy although they did well in snow and ice. Too expensive and lasted only25,000 miles, so I went cheap with Dunlop SP80 rated 98H in 225/60 for about 2 sets. Good traction in snow and ice, but lasted only 30,000miles. I'd buy them again because they were cheap, but they are no longer available. In pure cheapness and hoping to get a warranty, I have replaced the rears 6,000 miles ago with Goodyear Assurance Comfortred Touring in 225/60 98H installed at Sams club. When the fronts were a few thousand miles from needing a replacement, one had a puncture, so I went to Sams, but they realized their mistake and refused to replace my fronts with the same, so I had them replace a "spare", just so I could have one. I'll probably keep buying this tire because it is very quiet, has good traction and is very comfortable compared to the Michelin MXV, Pirelli Scorpion, or the Dunlop SP80. I have used.
Yes, this thread is still alive because the problem over the years is only worse with no available proper replacement.
I like lechon.
I've been using Nokians for a long time. I have a set of winter and summer. The winter are Hakkapelitta R and summer are eNtyre. I went with a 215/65/16 as the selection was greater 5 or 6 years ago with that size. I have stuck with that size ever since. You can get the Nokian 225/60/16 that fit the bill for load rating. You can get them in a 102 or a 109 and different speed ratings. For a regular EV, I don't suggest going with a 109 rating as the ride is just too rough. I like the Nokians as they are easy to get, they wear fine, don't go out of round, don't scallop, quiet and I've never had a blowout. I like the Nokians so much that I even bought them for my wife's Jetta. I get mine from tiresbyweb, the summer ones are $141 and winter are $159 (shipping is free). I think that getting tires for a EV is easier today than it was in the past. Order them online and they show up at my door 2 or 3 days later. Go to the place down the street from me and they mount them up.
With a few searches in the internet, Continental Contact 2 (109 rating) is available in a 215/65/16 from Tire Rack. I do see that the Continental Extreme Contact Winter is available in a 216/65/16 with a 102 load rating with some vendors. The same for the Continental Conti4x4Contact 215/65R16 102V. Tire Rack also has the Kuhmo Road Venture APT KL51a in a 235/60/16 with a load rating of 104 for $121.
One thing I have noticed, if you have a lowered EV, then the front tire will contact the inner fender well when you have the steering wheel turned to the stop. For me, it happens with a 215 tire but i got the van pretty low and have short bump stops on it. So, with a 235 it will be a bit worse but I think with stock height, everything is fine.
'02 EuroVan MV & '02 GMC T-7500 cabover 3126 CAT & '02 Manitou 14.000 lb Telehandler Perkins/CAT 4.liter...http://www.MenzelEngineering.com
I like lechon.
Hit the jackpot last weekend!
I was shopping for 2 new ones for the rear last weekend, was about to place the order from eurocampers - ended up at craigslist and came across a local lady that had 3x Michelins! Couldn't believe it. 2 still had stickers, one was lightly worn but needed a plug/patch for a nail. $120 for 2 new & lightly worn Michelins. Lady purchased them 4 years ago, stored in garage. Eurovan had a blown engine and been rusting away in her driveway for the past 3 years.....
'97 Audi A6 Wagen Quattro, '02 VW Jetta Wagen, '03 VW Eurovan MV
I just put a new set of eNtyres on my EVC and couldn't be happier. Super quiet, nice ride, crisp handling. 225/60-16's 102h . They were available in several tire shops in Seattle to my surprise.
I was running load rating 98's which gave me a scare, so it is nice to have the right tires on.
The best tire with the corrects load rating I found was the Continental Vanco. This is the same tire used for the Sprinter. The front axle load on the EV is around 3000 pounds so the proper load rating on the front especially will really improve handling. The Vanco is quiet. Much quieter than the Hakkepelittas I used for winter.
65 Squareback, 09 Tiquan, 08 GTI, 06 Jetta TDI, 01 Golf TDI, 00 Golf TDI, 00 Eurovan MV, 98 Bettle...and a few dozen other air cooled Dubs. Even a few experiements...07 Cooper S, 08 WRX, 06 FX45, 03 FX35, 08 S2000, 06 Z4C, 05 Cooper S Vert (2), 04 Cooper S HT and on and on, some I would never admit to...
I would just trim the rear bumper 0.5- 1" and be fine.
Previously, I ran 235/55/17 and those had plenty of room, and were never a problem in the 40kmi.
In the winter, I run 215/55/17 and have had these in deep snow and through a 2kmi snow filled trip without issue, ice packed up everywhere in the wells.