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      01-15-2011 12:01 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by vwbugstuff View Post
      Nokian Entyres = after 2 months and about 2000 miles.

      Nokian WRG2's = after 20,000 miles
      What's wrong with the WRG2s? I've got about 1000 miles on a set, and no issues yet. They are a fuzz louder than the Michelin 3-seasons they replaced- which was expected - and they handle much better on wet, dry, snowy and icy pavement.

    2. 01-15-2011 12:45 PM #27
      I have been using the Kumho Road Venture 235/60 R 16 for 20,000 miles now and they are great. They are not even half worn. They are also quiet and do a pretty good job in the snow.

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      01-15-2011 01:57 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by vwbugstuff View Post
      Nokian Entyres = after 2 months and about 2000 miles.

      Nokian WRG2's = after 20,000 miles

      Good info!

      My wife backed our van into something years ago and while it was repaired, it does seem pushed in slightly and I worry about clearance issues with 235's.

      Where did you get your Nokian enTyres? A local shop that deals in Nokain snow tires says they can't get them.

      I see a place called tire-easy has them online for $117 plus shipping, which is a lot cheaper than locally sourced 235 Michelins, but I have never heard of this place.

      any one have recent good or bad experiences with this outfit?

      http://www.tires-easy.com/start.html

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      01-15-2011 11:47 PM #29
      Two thumbs up for tires-easy.com. I've ordered three sets of tires (including the Entyres) from them - excellent prices and super speedy shipping. Highly recommended.

      As for the WRG2's - had them for less than two years. Rotated every 6500 miles. Very noisy starting at 18,000 miles and down to the bottom wear bars after 23,000 miles. There was no way they were going to make it through another winter. No treadwear warranty from Nokian.

      The Entyres are quiet and the ride & handling are very good. I only wish they had just a tad more grip in the Chicago snow, but overall I'm very happy with them.

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      01-16-2011 11:21 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by vwbugstuff View Post
      Two thumbs up for tires-easy.com. I've ordered three sets of tires (including the Entyres) from them - excellent prices and super speedy shipping. Highly recommended.

      As for the WRG2's - had them for less than two years. Rotated every 6500 miles. Very noisy starting at 18,000 miles and down to the bottom wear bars after 23,000 miles. There was no way they were going to make it through another winter. No treadwear warranty from Nokian.

      The Entyres are quiet and the ride & handling are very good. I only wish they had just a tad more grip in the Chicago snow, but overall I'm very happy with them.
      Thanks for taking the time to reply. I have been happy with Nokian snows, so I was sort of happy to see they were now making an all season that met the van's original specs. Nokian needs to market them better as none of the dealers I found using Nokian's own dealer search feature on their web site ever heard of them!

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      01-19-2011 09:28 PM #31
      Just to follow up in case anyone looks in here down the road...

      Ordered the Nokian enTyre from tire-easy.com

      Tires are not mounted yet, but ordering thru tire-easy was, well, easy. I ordered on Sunday night, had the tires by Wednesday morning. Can't do much better than that!

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      01-20-2011 10:27 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by vwbugstuff View Post
      As for the WRG2's - had them for less than two years. Rotated every 6500 miles. Very noisy starting at 18,000 miles and down to the bottom wear bars after 23,000 miles. There was no way they were going to make it through another winter. No treadwear warranty from Nokian.

      The Entyres are quiet and the ride & handling are very good. I only wish they had just a tad more grip in the Chicago snow, but overall I'm very happy with them.
      How long have you had the Entyres? My understanding was that the tread compound of the two tires was similar if not identical, but the WRG2 has siping and snow channeling.

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      01-22-2011 12:59 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by J Haser View Post
      After looking through a number of mfg. I just purchased Nokian Entyre 225 60 R 16 102 H. This has a 50K tread warranty.

      Hope they do better then the Dunlops I had.
      Are you sure about the 50K warranty? I just talked to the guy at tires-easy and he said there was no warranty on the Entyres.

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      01-22-2011 03:50 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by a1junkie View Post
      How long have you had the Entyres?
      About two months and 2000-ish miles.

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      01-23-2011 01:55 PM #35
      I just ordered 2x of the Nokian eNTYREs from eurocampers.com. Ordered sunday, arrived thursday.
      Will have them mounted next week or so....
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      01-24-2011 01:50 PM #36
      Only have about 50 miles on the enTyres, but they seem quiet and sure footed.

      Hard to compare as I can't really recall what MVX4's were like when new. These seem good and I like especially they are right size and load rating.

    12. 02-01-2011 10:48 PM #37
      I just bought the Kumho's in a 235/60/16 from Big O. They were less than $125 each mounted and balanced. Fit fine, speedo reads close to correct now...it was always slow on the Dunlops

    13. 01-11-2012 11:06 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by aebad View Post
      Only have about 50 miles on the enTyres, but they seem quiet and sure footed.
      A year later, how did these tires end up working for you? curious how they handle in the snow as I'm about to put new tires on my 2003 MV. It's between the eNTYREs and the Michelin HydroEdge (with 97 load rating but excellent snow ratings) GoWesty has a writeup on them here: http://www.gowesty.com/library_article.php?id=683

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      01-11-2012 11:23 PM #39
      They were excellent in the snow...for all season tires...and also quite good in rain. I also find them surprisingly quiet, although as I wrote a year ago, it is hard to compare. I am quite happy and would not hesitate to recommend them to you or anyone else.

      Tony
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    15. 01-12-2012 09:21 AM #40
      Tony,

      Thanks for the quick back. Going with the enTyre then. We have a place out in the hills of northwest NJ and the snow gets wicked. Hope these guys can handle it!

      - Chris

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      01-12-2012 09:38 AM #41
      Chris,

      Just remember these are not dedicated snow tires. They are "good" in the snow, I think better than any other all season tire I have had, but they fall short of what a true snow tire would do for you. When I got my van new in 01 they gave me a set of rims with snows on them and those dedicated snow tires were unbelievable. I never drove on real snows before. Once those wore out, however, I was too cheap and lazy to replace them.

      Bottom line, I have been very impressed with the all around performance of these tires.

      Good luck on those snoy hills...if you ever get snow this winter!

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    17. 01-12-2012 02:23 PM #42
      Thanks, I hear you on the "if" regarding snow! Though we did get a foot that weekend before Halloween so I expect we should see something at some point. It's nuts now though.

      Incidentally I have heard about these dealer rims but not able to find anything in my manual or online, was told by my guys at Eurotech in woodside. I was told they are a different size tire because the correct size was miserable in the snow. VW actually threw these in for free because of the awful snow performance. So, are they different? I'm thinking that my plan B will be to get a second set of steel rims and snows but want to right size them. What size are your snow tires?


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      01-12-2012 03:42 PM #43
      When I bought my van new it came with some nice Dunlop Sport tires. They were quiet and grippy, but wore out FAST. I am guessing someone complained that the van was advertised as coming with all season tires, and these were most definitely NOT all season. The van would not move on any type of incline in snow and ice and even on flat ground was scary in icy weather with those sport tires.

      VW said they would sell all 01 owners a set of steel rims, with center caps and snow tires for $150 total, which seemed like a great deal to me. I ordered a set but when they came they said VW changed their mind and there was no charge.

      The snows were Dunlops, 205/60R-16. The worn out tires are still on rims as I haven't bothered replacing them. For the few times I need snow tires, the cost and effort just wan't worth it. Interestingly when I went to the basement to check size of those old snow tires I noticed the load rating says 100/98H on these snow tires.

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      01-12-2012 03:49 PM #44
      By the way, I ordered my tires at tires-easy.com. I checked and they have enTyres in stock, but they are now $135 vs. $117 I paid a year ago.

      Good luck!

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    20. 01-12-2012 04:09 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by aebad View Post
      By the way, I ordered my tires at tires-easy.com. I checked and they have enTyres in stock, but they are now $135 vs. $117 I paid a year ago.

      Good luck!

      Tony
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      Tony, Thanks for the time and help. I bought from Tires-Easy, prices were best I found. Much appreciated!

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    21. 07-02-2012 11:50 PM #46
      Update on the Nokian Entyres: These tires are really great, I'm very happy with them. They're quiet, the cabin sounds reduced dramatically when compared to the michelins I was running prior. Handling is improved. We didn't have much of a winter so I can't comment on snow performance, but will update next year. And, they're fully up to spec, including a high wear rating, so i'll hopefully get more than 40k miles out of these guys.

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      07-11-2012 12:59 PM #47
      I tried Pirelli Scorpion tires in 235/60, but they were very noisy although they did well in snow and ice. Too expensive and lasted only25,000 miles, so I went cheap with Dunlop SP80 rated 98H in 225/60 for about 2 sets. Good traction in snow and ice, but lasted only 30,000miles. I'd buy them again because they were cheap, but they are no longer available. In pure cheapness and hoping to get a warranty, I have replaced the rears 6,000 miles ago with Goodyear Assurance Comfortred Touring in 225/60 98H installed at Sams club. When the fronts were a few thousand miles from needing a replacement, one had a puncture, so I went to Sams, but they realized their mistake and refused to replace my fronts with the same, so I had them replace a "spare", just so I could have one. I'll probably keep buying this tire because it is very quiet, has good traction and is very comfortable compared to the Michelin MXV, Pirelli Scorpion, or the Dunlop SP80. I have used.

      Yes, this thread is still alive because the problem over the years is only worse with no available proper replacement.
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    23. 07-19-2012 10:22 AM #48
      I've been using Nokians for a long time. I have a set of winter and summer. The winter are Hakkapelitta R and summer are eNtyre. I went with a 215/65/16 as the selection was greater 5 or 6 years ago with that size. I have stuck with that size ever since. You can get the Nokian 225/60/16 that fit the bill for load rating. You can get them in a 102 or a 109 and different speed ratings. For a regular EV, I don't suggest going with a 109 rating as the ride is just too rough. I like the Nokians as they are easy to get, they wear fine, don't go out of round, don't scallop, quiet and I've never had a blowout. I like the Nokians so much that I even bought them for my wife's Jetta. I get mine from tiresbyweb, the summer ones are $141 and winter are $159 (shipping is free). I think that getting tires for a EV is easier today than it was in the past. Order them online and they show up at my door 2 or 3 days later. Go to the place down the street from me and they mount them up.

    24. 07-19-2012 01:29 PM #49
      With a few searches in the internet, Continental Contact 2 (109 rating) is available in a 215/65/16 from Tire Rack. I do see that the Continental Extreme Contact Winter is available in a 216/65/16 with a 102 load rating with some vendors. The same for the Continental Conti4x4Contact 215/65R16 102V. Tire Rack also has the Kuhmo Road Venture APT KL51a in a 235/60/16 with a load rating of 104 for $121.

      One thing I have noticed, if you have a lowered EV, then the front tire will contact the inner fender well when you have the steering wheel turned to the stop. For me, it happens with a 215 tire but i got the van pretty low and have short bump stops on it. So, with a 235 it will be a bit worse but I think with stock height, everything is fine.

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      08-13-2012 09:51 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by max asst View Post
      I tried Pirelli Scorpion tires in 235/60, but they were very noisy although they did well in snow and ice. Too expensive and lasted only25,000 miles, so I went cheap with Dunlop SP80 rated 98H in 225/60 for about 2 sets. Good traction in snow and ice, but lasted only 30,000miles. I'd buy them again because they were cheap, but they are no longer available. In pure cheapness and hoping to get a warranty, I have replaced the rears 6,000 miles ago with Goodyear Assurance Comfortred Touring in 225/60 98H installed at Sams club. When the fronts were a few thousand miles from needing a replacement, one had a puncture, so I went to Sams, but they realized their mistake and refused to replace my fronts with the same, so I had them replace a "spare", just so I could have one. I'll probably keep buying this tire because it is very quiet, has good traction and is very comfortable compared to the Michelin MXV, Pirelli Scorpion, or the Dunlop SP80. I have used.

      Yes, this thread is still alive because the problem over the years is only worse with no available proper replacement.
      Has anyone mounted taller or larger O.D. tires than 235/60 -16 on a non-lifted '01-03 without fender issues ? I don't mind if they rub @ full lock turn as long as its not ripping things up, I'm after a little more ground clearance @ job-sites....any input please ? The Nokians are the best real snows I have run in over 40 winters. .thanks , Tom..httpwww.MenzelEngineering.com
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