lets see all your fixed gear bikes, finshed or not.

**jaystone** · 10-23-2008 09:31 AM

Quote, originally posted by JakeLegend »

these rims

what rims be those?

**Muffler Bearing** · 10-23-2008 10:02 AM

^ h+son

**eve_ill** · 10-23-2008 01:37 PM

Quote, originally posted by OriginalGTI »

It's a trial and error kind of thing, and even then it's still kind of a craps shoot hoping that you'll get proper chain tension. If the wheel you are using has a flip flop hub, just use a freewheel and a chain tensioner.

Come to think of it, what rear wheel are you using? That frame is going to have 135mm rear spacing, where as 99.9% of track hubs are either 110mm or 120mm.

More info on how exactly you're throwing this thing together please.

yeah, trial and error, or if it's a real biotch you can use a half link

**jaystone** · 10-23-2008 01:40 PM

80/85 per rim...plus 50 shipping WOW

SL42 with braking surface, Formation without.

**confederacy of burshes** · 10-23-2008 01:41 PM

Quote, originally posted by gotta_jet »

can anyone help me with finding a magic gear on a modern derailleur dropout frame?

i have a friend in dire need of transportation other than walking and i've got everything except a crankset laying around to build him a bike.

it's an '04 specialized allez pro frame (i got it dirt cheap), 56cm.

go here:
http://sheldonbrown.com/gearing/index.html

**Bauzen** · 10-23-2008 01:53 PM

This might be a stupid question, but if you lock your bike up and you see someone trying to break the lock (i.e. Stealing your bike) - Are you allowed to physically defend your bicycle? If you call the police, by the time they arrive, your bike is gone, but if you just happen to have a baseball bat in your messenger bag, and you give him a swift shot to the knee, he'll wait patiently for the police/ambulence to arrive and take the appropriate actions thereafter.

I just want to know what we're legally allowed to do in this situation...

**tonywrath** · 10-23-2008 02:00 PM

Quote, originally posted by T0oDamnFast »

This might be a stupid question, but if you lock your bike up and you see someone trying to break the lock (i.e. Stealing your bike) - Are you allowed to physically defend your bicycle? If you call the police, by the time they arrive, your bike is gone, but if you just happen to have a baseball bat in your messenger bag, and you give him a swift shot to the knee, he'll wait patiently for the police/ambulence to arrive and take the appropriate actions thereafter.

I just want to know what we're legally allowed to do in this situation...

lucky for me, I'm a big guy... I would not call the police unless the guy is already too far. if he is still there, its fair game

**futur** · 10-23-2008 03:26 PM

Quote, originally posted by T0oDamnFast »

This might be a stupid question, but if you lock your bike up and you see someone trying to break the lock (i.e. Stealing your bike) - Are you allowed to physically defend your bicycle? If you call the police, by the time they arrive, your bike is gone, but if you just happen to have a baseball bat in your messenger bag, and you give him a swift shot to the knee, he'll wait patiently for the police/ambulence to arrive and take the appropriate actions thereafter.

I just want to know what we're legally allowed to do in this situation...

citizens arrest. use lethal force.

**jaystone** · 10-23-2008 04:20 PM

Just make sure you have witness' who see him attempting to steal your bike; that way when the police arrive you have someone on your side...be sure the scumbag bike thief would say you just randomly beat him.

Personally I'd shoot them in the foot or knee.

**Moe Sizlack** · 10-23-2008 04:25 PM

I bet you wouldn't.

**gotta_jet** · 10-23-2008 05:08 PM

i don't think you can use any type of force to defend your property in NY.

move to texas, then kill the potential theif

**Muffler Bearing** · 10-23-2008 05:15 PM

Quote, originally posted by T0oDamnFast »

This might be a stupid question, but if you lock your bike up and you see someone trying to break the lock (i.e. Stealing your bike) - Are you allowed to physically defend your bicycle? If you call the police, by the time they arrive, your bike is gone, but if you just happen to have a baseball bat in your messenger bag, and you give him a swift shot to the knee, he'll wait patiently for the police/ambulence to arrive and take the appropriate actions thereafter.

I just want to know what we're legally allowed to do in this situation...

if you hit him in the knee with a bat, im sure you can ride alot faster than he can run after you

after you take out his knees, should give him a shot in the collar bone with the bat and then a punch in the dick

if you are able to knock him down, pee on his head.

**jaystone** · 10-23-2008 06:14 PM

Quote, originally posted by Moe Sizlack »

I bet you wouldn't.

You're right...I probably wouldn't. But are you willing to bet that with a gun pointed in your direction?

I'm not advocating shooting anybody. As a matter of fact two rights don't make a wrong. Personal protection and the protection of ones personal property are two different things (unless you're in Texas and you're in your house).

So...in the end this is just the internet and this is all just talk.

Back to the sweet bikes!

**mortician** · 10-23-2008 08:05 PM

Quote, originally posted by Couch »

yo dood.

i like this photo

**JakeLegend** · 10-23-2008 08:31 PM

Quote, originally posted by watgolf »

White phils or silver?

they're the white h+son's...700c...laced to silver high flange phils.

i had a couple friends out in new york pick up the rims for me from a shop that had them in stock...paid 120 a rim. i know they're a lot more than the velocity's, but i wanted them more for the unique factor, and the fact that this will be a damn near indestructible wheelset that will last me a long time.

good note...the rear hub came today, front comes tomorrow...bike shop saturday morning

**OriginalGTI** · 10-23-2008 08:40 PM

Quote, originally posted by JakeLegend »

i know they're a lot more than the velocity's, but i wanted them more for the unique factor

Enjoy it while you can. A few shops here in SF are already sold out on their pre-orders. The streets will be littered with them soon enough.

**Martinus** · 10-23-2008 09:03 PM

Aren't they on those 1000$ SS Giants ?

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**wagon.** · 10-23-2008 09:21 PM

Quote, originally posted by Martinus »

Aren't they on those 1000$ SS Giants ?

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**OriginalGTI** · 10-23-2008 10:34 PM

Funny, I just talked to my friend who saw a set in person built up at his shop. Turns out they have pretty thin sidewalls. Looks like they'll be pretty prone to buckling.

So more original than Velocities? Not for long.

Stronger than Velocities? Nope.

Significantly more expensive? Yes.

**EuroVR6Mk3** · 10-23-2008 11:03 PM

Quote, originally posted by JakeLegend »

soon to come...hopefully i'll have the hubs tomorrow so they can be built by next week

these rims

eh.... they look weird imo. like its not deep enough and a little too deep, the in between

**tttomm88** · 10-24-2008 12:14 AM

anyone use velocity fusions?

**Couch** · 10-24-2008 12:28 AM

Quote, originally posted by mortician »

i like this photo

Thanks!

**Martinus** · 10-24-2008 12:48 AM

Quote, originally posted by EuroVR6Mk3 »

... like its not deep enough and a little too deep... ... ...

LOL. So... deeper than a dp18 or velocity, but not as deep as a zipp 808 or zipp 1080.

Check.

Nothing about it ... some companys actually give measurments, in mm.

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Modified by Martinus at 12:50 AM 10-24-2008

**JakeLegend** · 10-24-2008 12:55 AM

Quote, originally posted by OriginalGTI »

Enjoy it while you can. A few shops here in SF are already sold out on their pre-orders. The streets will be littered with them soon enough.

that's in sf though...here in indy, i know of 2 other people who each have one rim...both 650's that got them the same time and place as mine.

it'll be awhile before i see them around here

**futur** · 10-24-2008 06:15 AM

Quote, originally posted by JakeLegend »

and the fact that this will be a damn near indestructible wheelset that will last me a long time.

while those wheels are beautiful the only indestructable part will be the phils. velocity deep vees are heavy for a reason.

if you want bomb proof/cost effective 3x 36 spoke some deep vs to formulas. cheap and you can ghostride the whip.

**confederacy of burshes** · 10-24-2008 08:50 AM

surly hubs are the most bomb-proof cheap hubs ive ever seen.
$70 and they'll outlast your grandkids!

p.s: mine are laced to 27"X 7/8" whaaaat?

**Moe Sizlack** · 10-24-2008 08:51 AM

Quote, originally posted by jeff@dzt »

But are you willing to bet that with a gun pointed in your direction?

What are you, Dirty Harry?

**Couch** · 10-24-2008 11:11 AM

Quote, originally posted by futur »

while those wheels are beautiful the only indestructable part will be the phils. velocity deep vees are heavy for a reason.

if you want bomb proof/cost effective 3x 36 spoke some deep vs to formulas. cheap and you can ghostride the whip.

Couldnt be put any better then that.

**jaystone** · 10-24-2008 12:02 PM

Quote, originally posted by Moe Sizlack »

What are you, Dirty Harry?

nope. just flappin my gums.

**polka** · 10-24-2008 01:27 PM

**OriginalGTI** · 10-24-2008 03:24 PM

Quote, originally posted by tttomm88 »

anyone use velocity fusions?

I have a set of fusions. They're nice. I've used as around town wheels for my Merckx and my Waterford. Just a bit more understated than Deep Vs which I think looks a little nicer on older steel frames. Right now their job is going to be to hold up my Pista Concept '09 while I decide on what wheels I want to build for it.

**audi666** · 10-24-2008 03:27 PM

they suck to open bottles with though..

Quote, originally posted by polka »

**polka** · 10-24-2008 03:49 PM

Quote, originally posted by audi666 »

they suck to open bottles with though..

I haven't tried yet, but I'll take your word for it.

**tonywrath** · 10-24-2008 05:11 PM

didn't want to take the whole bike apart...
so I just sanded the down tube and rear tube for now...
made the top tube and fork a little dirty but got too tired to finish.
its hot as balls today.
crappy cell phone pics

**Fast Bumpers** · 10-24-2008 08:05 PM

Quote, originally posted by jeff@dzt »

nope. just flappin my gums.

Moving your fingers?

VWVortex

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