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    10-13-2007 08:51 PM #1
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    THE NEW SERPENTINE BELT FAQ IN THE MKI GOLF / JETTA FORUM - COMING SOON!!

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    PLEASE SELECT THE PACKAGE YOU WANT WHEN ORDERING.ALL PRICES INCLUDE SHIPPING & PAYPAL FEES.PAYMENT CAN BE MADE TO SALES[at]INAENGINEERING[dot]COM via PAYPAL.

    The ABF Adjustable alternator set up has been sought after by many individuals. With some fervent searching and development work, sourcing the parts for the 16v enthusiast just became a lot easier and now with lightened pulleys to really accentuate your engine bay.


    What is the ABF alternator conversion?
    As seen in the image above it is an adjustable serpentine belt set up that eliminates the need to use tensioners and positions the alternator low enough to clear ITB's (Individual throttle bodies) on an 8V,16V or even 20V set up!

    We are currently working on 06A/06B applications as well using this amazing set up and now kits just became easier.We also have the means to source any serpentine set up from the ABA ac & the uber rare non-ac.

    Quote, originally posted by PACKAGES »

    ABF KIT - BASIC PACKAGE:
    Basic Kit includes:
    * Isaka 90A Alternator with 1 year warranty.THIS IS NOT REBUILT
    * OEM VW ABF Alternator bracket

    PRICE = $319US SHIPPED!



    ABF KIT - PRO PACKAGE:
    Pro Kit includes:
    * Isaka 90A Alternator with 1 year warranty.THIS IS NOT REBUILT
    * OEM VW ABF Alternator bracket
    * T6061 INA water pump pulley
    * 6PK-903 Belt

    PRICE = $399US SHIPPED!



    ABF KIT - PREMIUM PACKAGE:
    Premium Kit includes:
    * Isaka 90A Alternator with 1 year warranty.NEW,not rebuilt!
    * OEM VW ABF Alternator bracket
    * INA Bolt kit to attech bracket to the block
    * MKIV 1.8T Crankshaft accessory pulley w/ harmonic dampner
    * spacer for crankshaft accessory pulley (customer MUST specify if use is either 8V engine or 16V engine)
    * T6061 INA aluminum water pump pulley
    * T6061 INA aluminum alternator pulley
    * 6PK-903 Belt

    PRICE = $599US SHIPPED!



    SERPENTINE PULLEY CONVERSION PACKAGE:
    Kit includes:
    * NEW 06A Crankshaft Accessory Pulley w/ harmonic dampner
    * Spacer (specify 8V or 16V)
    * INA T6061 aluminum Water pump pulley
    * INA T6061 aluminum Alternator pulley

    PRICE = $219US SHIPPED!





    Please send me a PM when you are ready to order and please do not hesitate to ask us any questions.
    Thanks


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    11-12-2007 08:42 AM #3
    I have AC in mine, and would like to use a serpentine belt. is that possible?
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    11-12-2007 09:06 AM #4
    Quote, originally posted by JonnyPhenomenon »
    I have AC in mine, and would like to use a serpentine belt. is that possible?

    You should be able to use the US Mk3 setup with the tensioner. I'm not sure if you can keep your stock compressor though. Try it, but you might have to use a Mk3 compressor.

    But that's ok, because you can get a mk3 compressor made for R134a and it'll work better anyway.

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  5. 11-12-2007 09:59 AM #5
    this ad has been spammed across the tex more than anything i have seen.

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    11-12-2007 06:46 PM #6
    Quote, originally posted by JonnyPhenomenon »
    I have AC in mine, and would like to use a serpentine belt. is that possible?

    I would look into the ABA set up as stated above.
    Quote, originally posted by rabidroco »
    this ad has been spammed across the tex more than anything i have seen.

    No sir,you are wrong...
    Spamming would be what occurs in the MKIV & 1.8T forums where 1278638 advertisers compete to sell the same products so you end up having half a forum fulled with advertiser threads selling the same items.
    I decided to do this because I wanted to offer a product that everyone asked for but could not seem to get/find.
    If you can find another ABF set up anywhere on the tex let me know...until then either buy one or keep your opinion.


    Quote, originally posted by INA »

    I was served a nasty blow today so everyone that got this @ $269US got really lucky.
    Due to actions beyond my control there has been a price increase on both Alternators & Brackets totalling over $50US.Not my cup of tea...
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  7. 11-13-2007 01:50 PM #7
    I'm not trying to trash your sale, but if you search "ABF" this ad comes up 14 times and they're always at the top.

    Maybe it's just me, but $269 seems like a lot for a serp setup that lacks the best thing about a serp belt swap, that is a spring-tensioner which keeps the belt from slipping/squeaking and needing adjustment.


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    11-13-2007 02:24 PM #8
    The spring tensioner is on the bottom of the alternator bracket, unfortunately not visible in the pics. I've seen the setup in person on My Old Roc's car, and it looks very nice.
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  10. 02-18-2008 08:15 AM #10
    I'm old, I have to wear a suit to work and I need my AC, it's an R134a retro on it's 6th year, I also like my power steering.

    I hate changing all the belts.

    Any way to do this conversion and keep all the goodies and run them off one belt?

    This is for my stock 86 8v JH

    Eventually for my 87 16v PL too.

    Thanks!


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    02-18-2008 08:51 AM #11
    you might be able to use an ABA setup, but it may put the A/C compressor to far forward and hit the crossmember or radiator.

    This setup is ideal for non-A/C cars.

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    02-18-2008 12:33 PM #12
    Quote, originally posted by wgirnius »
    I'm old, I have to wear a suit to work and I need my AC, it's an R134a retro on it's 6th year, I also like my power steering.

    I hate changing all the belts.

    Any way to do this conversion and keep all the goodies and run them off one belt?

    This is for my stock 86 8v JH

    Eventually for my 87 16v PL too.

    Thanks!


    Working on it right now so that you are able to run every accessory off 1 single belt.It is proving to be a bit challenging but I am getting there as I am trying to keep cost down to a minimal.
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  14. 11-16-2008 10:04 PM #14
    Can't wait, seriously looking forward to this mod.

  15. 11-16-2008 10:05 PM #15
    Quote, originally posted by INA »

    Working on it right now so that you are able to run every accessory off 1 single belt.It is proving to be a bit challenging but I am getting there as I am trying to keep cost down to a minimal.

    Can't wait, seriously looking forward to this mod.


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    11-29-2008 07:20 AM #16
    Hope everyone had an amazing Thanks Giving!

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    We have now reduced the price of the crankshaft serpentine pulley kit to $115US SHIPPED.Kit consists of:
    * Brand new OEM 1.8T Crankshaft pulley
    * Spacer for correct offset

    No more buying cracked up old ABA pulleys
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    12-01-2008 06:19 PM #17
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    12-02-2008 05:04 PM #18
    I`ve tried the ABA setup in a MK1 and yes the crossmember would need to be notched for the compressor as well as the right framerail to clear the tensioner and a radiator with outlets on the driver side like the corradoG60 , just haven`t tried to fit the rad but there isn`t room to get around the compressor . Sorry about the thread jack

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    12-04-2008 10:43 PM #19
    Quote, originally posted by sickmind »
    I`ve tried the ABA setup in a MK1 and yes the crossmember would need to be notched for the compressor as well as the right framerail to clear the tensioner and a radiator with outlets on the driver side like the corradoG60 , just haven`t tried to fit the rad but there isn`t room to get around the compressor . Sorry about the thread jack

    You can skip the frame rail. I shaved down the bolt head on the tensioner pulley a bit & it just clears.


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    I didn't know this was the for sale forum

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    12-06-2008 11:12 PM #21
    Quote, originally posted by BluDemon »
    I didn't know this was the for sale forum

    Every once in a while a member (like yourself) replies with some whitey comment that does not pertain to the products but rather to how/why advertisers post up for sale stuff in forums.

    In the past I would have simply reported your post and moved along but today is your lucky day as I am going to reply like a regular user,not a forum advertiser.

    This is my regular handle:
    http://forums.vwvortex.com/zer...29382
    If you notice anything about the almost 10,000 posts they have been nothing but quality information sharing.What 99.9% of members (like yourself) do not realise is that for most advertisers/forum sponsours this is OUR JOB.

    Most of you wake up, have a shower,drink your coffee,kiss your wife and then go to your 9-5pm job ,come home ,eat dinner and then relax to do the same thing the next day after being paid for e.g. in this scenario $20US/hour or more (or less depending on where you work).After a days work you have made the 160 US that you need to bring home to your wife.

    Now me for e.g. I gave up my Engineering 9-5pm job to do THIS full time.What is this? I turned my passion into a means of an income by developing parts the community demands and sourcing hard to find parts that the community desires such as this ABF kit. Not only do I have to match your 160 US / day but I also have to budget for the advertising fees that I HAVE TO PAY in order to show off the pretty little products that I develop.

    Who would I sell ABF alternator kits to? MKIV 1.8T guys? NO
    my target market is going to be the Scirocco ,MKI Golf , MKI Jetta and any other user who has a v-belt system. I am sorry if this thread is or was an eye sore for you but try and understand my point of view (and every advertiser on this forum point of view) when you are driving in your new RS4 tomorrow.

    I use to be just like you and never understood why advertisers cluttered the forum with posts until I became one.My advice to you (as a regular user speaking here) is that if you do not like what is being offered then download firevortex and ignore all posts made by advertisers.It makes reading the forum a lot easier and it cuts guys like us some slack.

    As usual,if you do not like a thread then simply do not click on it as you are simply wasting both of our time.I hope my explanation above puts you a little at ease as I strive day in and day out to develop new products for these platforms.Bare with me a little....I am not harming anyone with these threads.

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    12-13-2008 04:39 PM #22
    Quote, originally posted by RoccoRacer »
    The spring tensioner is on the bottom of the alternator bracket, unfortunately not visible in the pics. I've seen the setup in person on My Old Roc's car, and it looks very nice.

    Can anybody else confirm this? Better yet, any body have a picture?


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    12-13-2008 04:42 PM #23
    Here ya go.

    You just loosen the pivot 13mm bolt, and that big 19mm bolt. The sping applies the proper tension. Tighten the bolts. Done.

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    02-28-2009 12:38 PM #24
    Ok I have decided that I am going to write the serpentine conversion FAQ thread and I am going to be placing it in the MKI Golf & Jetta forum as the members of id=11 have been nothing but awesome to me.
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    Quote, originally posted by BluDemon »
    I didn't know this was the for sale forum

    Haaaaaaa. You got served!

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    03-29-2009 12:21 PM #26
    Quote, originally posted by chirocco »

    Haaaaaaa. You got served!


    Not really
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  27. 05-13-2009 12:21 AM #27
    Quote, originally posted by INA »

    Every once in a while a member (like yourself) replies with some whitey comment that does not pertain to the products but rather to how/why advertisers post up for sale stuff in forums.

    In the past I would have simply reported your post and moved along but today is your lucky day as I am going to reply like a regular user,not a forum advertiser.

    This is my regular handle:
    http://forums.vwvortex.com/zer...29382
    If you notice anything about the almost 10,000 posts they have been nothing but quality information sharing.What 99.9% of members (like yourself) do not realise is that for most advertisers/forum sponsours this is OUR JOB.

    Most of you wake up, have a shower,drink your coffee,kiss your wife and then go to your 9-5pm job ,come home ,eat dinner and then relax to do the same thing the next day after being paid for e.g. in this scenario $20US/hour or more (or less depending on where you work).After a days work you have made the 160 US that you need to bring home to your wife.

    Now me for e.g. I gave up my Engineering 9-5pm job to do THIS full time.What is this? I turned my passion into a means of an income by developing parts the community demands and sourcing hard to find parts that the community desires such as this ABF kit. Not only do I have to match your 160 US / day but I also have to budget for the advertising fees that I HAVE TO PAY in order to show off the pretty little products that I develop.

    Who would I sell ABF alternator kits to? MKIV 1.8T guys? NO
    my target market is going to be the Scirocco ,MKI Golf , MKI Jetta and any other user who has a v-belt system. I am sorry if this thread is or was an eye sore for you but try and understand my point of view (and every advertiser on this forum point of view) when you are driving in your new RS4 tomorrow.

    I use to be just like you and never understood why advertisers cluttered the forum with posts until I became one.My advice to you (as a regular user speaking here) is that if you do not like what is being offered then download firevortex and ignore all posts made by advertisers.It makes reading the forum a lot easier and it cuts guys like us some slack.

    As usual,if you do not like a thread then simply do not click on it as you are simply wasting both of our time.I hope my explanation above puts you a little at ease as I strive day in and day out to develop new products for these platforms.Bare with me a little....I am not harming anyone with these threads.
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    Thank you for this, I do not know why people are so inconsiderate about this.

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    05-14-2009 09:53 PM #28
    Quote, originally posted by tehmonkay »

    Thank you for this, I do not know why people are so inconsiderate about this.


    If everyone was considerate like 99% of the users in here then we would not have any problems.
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    06-06-2009 12:22 PM #29
    Hey guys,
    we are doing a batch of Anodized black this week AND we now have alternator pulley's available for all the drag racers!
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    06-07-2009 11:15 PM #30
    The kit I bought didn't come with a spring like you have shown. Is it truly necessary?

    Quote, originally posted by TheTimob »


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    06-08-2009 09:57 AM #31
    Quote, originally posted by Alderstorm »
    The kit I bought didn't come with a spring like you have shown. Is it truly necessary?


    Not at all and the reason we do not provide the spring is because once you pry out and bolt down the alternator then the spring no longer provides any tension.
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    06-08-2009 04:25 PM #32
    Do you have any recommendations on how to tension the belt properly?

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    06-08-2009 05:42 PM #33
    Quote, originally posted by Alderstorm »
    Do you have any recommendations on how to tension the belt properly?

    I used a screw driver to pry it out then I tightened the bolt to secure the alternator.
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    06-08-2009 08:47 PM #34
    Quote, originally posted by INA »

    I used a screw driver to pry it out then I tightened the bolt to secure the alternator.

    I am smart enough to figure that out. I guess I was asking for it with such a silly question though. Thanks.


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    06-09-2009 09:20 AM #35
    Quote, originally posted by Alderstorm »

    I am smart enough to figure that out. I guess I was asking for it with such a silly question though. Thanks.


    Not silly at all my friend.
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