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    Thread: Main difference between the VR6 and the V6?

    1. 10-17-2007 06:50 AM #1
      What are the main difference between the VR6 engine used in 35i passats, corrado's etc and the V6 engine used in newer passat's?

      Performance wise.

      Engine sound (important... )

      thnx in advance.


    2. 10-17-2007 08:12 AM #2
      the V6 has eight cylinders


      Modified by Zba at 8:25 AM 10-17-2007

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      10-17-2007 09:26 AM #3
      Quote, originally posted by Zba »
      the V6 has eight cylinders


      Modified by Zba at 8:25 AM 10-17-2007


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      10-17-2007 09:48 AM #4
      Quote, originally posted by Zba »
      the V6 has eight cylinders


      Modified by Zba at 8:25 AM 10-17-2007

      there you have it folks, its on the internet, its gotta be true!

      not sure what the 35i passat is, so i cant comment on it, but the v6 in north america is a wider angle v (60 degrees i believe) compared to the vr's 15 degrees

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      10-17-2007 10:20 AM #5
      Quote, originally posted by Tire_Marx »

      there you have it folks, its on the internet, its gotta be true!

      not sure what the 35i passat is, so i cant comment on it, but the v6 in north america is a wider angle v (60 degrees i believe) compared to the vr's 15 degrees

      35i = B3, B4 Passat

      Wow a V6 with 8 cylinders, a marvel of engineering.

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    6. 10-17-2007 10:30 AM #6
      <ironic mode>
      Yea, about those 8 cylinders in the V6, I actually think VW was able to fit 16 cylinders in their W8 engine......not bad......
      </Ironic mode>


      Seriously though anyone know how the V6 engine compares to VR6 when it comes to real life performance.

      I have a VR6 myselfe, but I'm thinking of buying a newer Passat, and sadly those didn't come with the VR6 engine, atleast not until the newest R36 comes around, but that is out of my price-limit....


    7. 10-17-2007 11:45 AM #7
      doesn't the passat 2.8 v6 put out 190hp stock?

    8. 10-17-2007 12:07 PM #8
      I think it puts out 193 HP, but not sure how it "feels" to drive compared to the VR...

    9. 10-17-2007 12:56 PM #9
      i meant 8 valves

    10. 10-17-2007 12:59 PM #10
      Quote, originally posted by Zba »
      i meant 8 valves


      vr6 or v6...uses 12 valves, 2 per cylinder...minimum

    11. 10-17-2007 01:01 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by 708VR6 »


      vr6 or v6...uses 12 valves, 2 per cylinder...minimum

      not if the cylinders share valves...

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    12. 10-17-2007 01:02 PM #12
      Quote, originally posted by sterkrazzy »

      not if the cylinders share valves...

      never seen valves being shared...

      ok did a bit of reading took this from the article I found:

      "cylinders 1 & 2 share an inlet port, cylinders 3 & 4 share an inlet port, and cylinders 2 & 3 share an exhaust port. Very weird compared to the more familiar head designs found on almost every other engine type that has one inlet and one exhaust port per cylinder"


      Modified by 708VR6 at 12:08 PM 10-17-2007


      Modified by 708VR6 at 12:10 PM 10-17-2007


    13. 10-17-2007 01:07 PM #13
      shared valves..thats crazy talk right there,, you crazy maaan, you crazy!

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      10-17-2007 02:10 PM #14
      i think some VW V6 is 30valves.

    15. 10-18-2007 12:26 AM #15
      i wondered that one time... whats was the difference from a jetta v6 and a vr6

    16. 10-18-2007 01:03 AM #16
      Quote, originally posted by leperkuan »
      i wondered that one time... whats was the difference from a jetta v6 and a vr6

      jetta has a vr6 just as the gti does...


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      10-18-2007 01:50 AM #17
      VR6: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR6_engine

      Audi V6 (also used on some Passat):
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_A4

      BTW any VR6 will beat a V6 on exhaust note because of the cylinder firing order - its more like and inline-6.


      Modified by phatvw at 10:56 PM 10-17-2007


    18. 10-18-2007 04:07 AM #18
      i could swear i have seen v6 on the rear of a mkiv jetta, maybe it was a passat?? also im very turned on by the VR6 because my first one i sat there and wondered why is the intake on one side and the exhaust on the other, it didnt make any sense to me knowing it was a v 6 but then i saw a cut out picture of one and fell in love with the design alone.


      also i wasnt meaning the golf doesnt have a vr6 i meant a jetta v6 and a jetta vr6


      Modified by leperkuan at 1:10 AM 10-18-2007


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      10-18-2007 09:01 AM #19
      Ok, I will answers the OP's question as I do own both a VR6 and V6.

      Stock the VR6 and V6 have really nice low end torque. The V6 may even have a slightly flatter torque curve. Horse power for the V6 is ~190 hp while the VR is ~178 hp.

      Performance is kinda weird to compare, as they are it two completely different cars (handling and weight wise).

      The VR in the Corrado sounds downright mean is a blast to drive.
      The Passat is a much heaver car (wagon with 4Motion) so the extra hp is soaked up a bit. The Passat however does get up a scoot just fine and sounds pretty good under hard acceleration.

      Now performance modding, that's a different story. If you think a VR is expensive to get extra hp, then the V6 is worse. About the only cheap mod for the V6 is a GIAC chip, and that is open to opinion as far as if it's even worth it. To get real hp increases in the V6, you are looking at adding a supercharger at big $$$$.

      So, buy a V6 if you want nice stock performance in a bigger car. If you want modding ability without a crazy budget, stick with a car with the VR6 or go 1.8T.

      I like both engines, but of course thet are in totally different styles of vehicles.


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      10-18-2007 09:02 AM #20
      Quote, originally posted by leperkuan »
      i could swear i have seen v6 on the rear of a mkiv jetta, maybe it was a passat??

      Later Jetta's with the VR6 engines were badged with a V6 emblem. It was a marketing choice, as some buyers didn't understand the VR nomenclature and did know what a V6 was.


    21. 10-18-2007 12:44 PM #21
      Thanks James...

      I already have a Passat VR6, but am thinking of getting something newer, that's the main reason for looking into the V6 passat, though I'm very much like the VR6 engine, and I guess for me the sound of it can't get much better...

      Thanks again for your input...


    22. 10-18-2007 05:40 PM #22
      thanks for clearing that up for me james

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      10-18-2007 06:47 PM #23
      Quote, originally posted by Mawrick »
      Thanks James...

      I already have a Passat VR6, but am thinking of getting something newer, that's the main reason for looking into the V6 passat, though I'm very much like the VR6 engine, and I guess for me the sound of it can't get much better...

      Thanks again for your input...

      Or you can get the 30v v6, and twin turbo it..... it will almost be like an S4, with alot of suspension work....... but one hell of a sleeper!


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      10-18-2007 06:57 PM #24
      Quote, originally posted by nubVR »
      Or you can get the 30v v6, and twin turbo it..... it will almost be like an S4, with alot of suspension work....... but one hell of a sleeper!

      Yeah, that's been knocked around a few times, and the general consensus is it would be easier and cheaper to just swap in the whole twin turbo engine from an S4.

      Some guy did just that with a Wagon. Of course I bet a S4 wagon could be had for a fair price now.


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