LIMO PROJECT

[barry2952]

Quote, originally posted by MotownSVT »

Let me know if you need a 32-year old shop gofer to push a broom around on weekends.

You should be careful what you offer. I might take you up in it!

My shop's at 7 mile and Beech in Redford if you'd like to visit.

[LSinLV]

Quote, originally posted by barry2952 »

Never got it. The only part I'm looking for is the aluminum strip that finishes the rear of the convertible top. I'd kill for one of those.

turn OFF pop-up blocker for PM's.....I have Joe's number and if he doesn't have what you are looking for he will know where one is.

if you can PM me and I'll get you Joe's phone number....I hate posting those on the internet.

[barry2952]

Quote, originally posted by LSinLV »

turn OFF pop-up blocker for PM's.....I have Joe's number and if he doesn't have what you are looking for he will know where one is. if you can PM me and I'll get you Joe's phone number....I hate posting those on the internet.

I must be inept. I can't figure out how to send pms. My email address is barry2952@twmi.rr.com.

[xmaciek82x]

Very nice, keep up the good work

[LSinLV]

you've got mail!

[barry2952]

Thanks Larry, I'll get in touch, for sure!

[Download_Complete]

Barry, that trailer of yours is the most inspirational and well thought out project I have ever seen.

Words fail me. YOu win at the Car Lounge. Please stay and contribute as much as you like (and as much as you can).

I am with MotownSVT. If you need a shop gofer, I work for free - all I as is I get to play with the projects too. The commute from Chicago would suck, but I would manage.

Bravo....WELL done.

[rowervw]

Simply fantastic. I absolutely love the work on the trailer. You posses an attention to detail that is not often found these days. I am enjoying the work up on this Lincoln and look forward to continued progress. I don't blame you on not wanting to tow that trailer. I tow rowing shells during the season and know first hand how difficult towing 60ft trailers with expensive equipment can be. (esp here in DC). I have been fortunate at this point to not have any accidents but know that these things happen when you least expect. Keep up the good work!

[barry2952]

Thank you.

12-27-2007

Wire brushed off as much of the rust as I could get off, degreased and painted the areas of the trunk that are exposed to moisture. Unpainted areas are inside the trunk and will just get primer and paint.

After two hours of tedious die grinding I sanded about four square feet of the roof
to remove any burrs. I found that the rust spots had a slight rise to them that wouldn't go away with sanding. The iron oxide was harder than the sandpaper grit but not the carbide burr.

I meticulously ground away as many rust spots as I could see. These left depressions that often still had a slight rust deposit at the bottom of the pit. After grinding I used the POR-15 neutralizer and rinsed with water as instructed. I towel dried the surface, allowed it to dry totally and painted on a thick coat of POR-15 over the entire area.

I sanded away the entire coat leaving each divot filled with POR-15 sealing the rust off for eternity, or so they say.

The product on the left is the fiberglass reinforced filler designed specifically to fill large holes. I used that to fill the rust holes in the window frame. This stuff sets up very fast (5 minutes) and is hard as nails. There's a 10 minute work window for final shaving or shaping, but that's about it.

The product on the right is their super fine body filler. It spreads like the consistency of butter.

This is the hole filler, shaped on the left and unworked on the right.

I used the fine filler on all of the divots and sanded it away leaving the roof extremely smooth.

I top coated the sanded metal with red oxide primer which will probably be sanded off by the painter. I started to reinstall the trunk lid to check the fit and to weld up the antenna hole in the trunk lid. I may leave it and install another type of antenna there.

Before and after left side.

Before and after, right side

[Numbersix]

Thank you once again for taking the time to document your projects and to share them with us through these write-ups.

Your skill and attention to detail are once again evident here. I cannot wait to see how this project progresses.

[renegadeofpunk03]

i have massive respect for your patience and dedication to this and your other projects. i only wish my attention span was 1/2 of yours.

[andyA6]

BIG FAT WOW !!

I wish I would have the time, space and patience to do a project myself!!

Respect

[BIG Tony]

bad ass thread!!!!!!

[MotownSVT]

Quote, originally posted by barry2952 »

You should be careful what you offer. I might take you up in it! My shop's at 7 mile and Beech in Redford if you'd like to visit.

And you should be careful what you offer as well... I'm at West Chicago and Beech Daly. I can be there in 5 minutes. Seriously, I *really* may take you up on that.

Thanks for the latest update... it's inspiring (I may be speaking for a lot more of us rather than just myself) to see this kind of work and attention to detail, not to mention the fact that you're doing it yourself. Plus the fact that it's happening minutes away from my house is completely kickass.


Modified by MotownSVT at 12:18 AM 12-28-2007

[barry2952]

I'm usually around until 3:00. Knock on the back garage door at 19300. If you see my ML-320 I'm in the back or the building I own next door at 19330.

[atomicalex]

I'd love to visit one day! I'm over in Troy and your work is beautiful. Don't get to see that kind of stuff up close very often any more.

[barry2952]

C'mon down!

[16volt]

Barry for president.

Great build.

[Numbersix]

When is Motive going to start doing interesting articles on projects...?

*hint, hint*

[Download_Complete]

Quote, originally posted by Numbersix »

When is Motive going to start doing interesting articles on projects...? *hint, hint*

Excellent idea!

Hey Motive! Get a journo over to this guy and document the living hell out of that trailer and the limo build!

I'd LOVE to see an article done on these.

[Driver Tom]

Very cool. Thanks for taking the time to post all of this.

[LSinLV]

Quote, originally posted by Numbersix »

When is Motive going to start doing interesting articles on projects...? *hint, hint*

when they get paid to cover it.....

[AIRider]

wow great job ... !!!

[barry2952]

Thanks all.
12-31-2007

This is what I started with. The padded vinyl top had split and water sought the lowest level and was trapped by the rear moldings. The problem was compounded by caulking the bottom of the trim.

About two hours of die grinder work and I had removed all traces of rust on the surface. There was still some rust at the bottom of the deep pits. I ground away all the thin metal, requiring some extensive patches.

I gave the area a heavy coat of POR-15 and let it cure overnight.

I made some backers out of stainless steel and secured them with screws. I intentionally left a 1/4" gap in-between the backer and the finished surface.

I mixed a batch of the fiberglass reinforced filler and pushed it into the intentional gap and tightened the screws, compressing the filler behind the patch.

After the filler set up I removed the screws and filled the holes.

I used the fine paste to fill the divots left after sanding off the top coat of POR-15. I topped that with bondo as necessary and sanded the area smooth.

Before and after

[OoTLink]

Sweet sweet sweet

Happy new years! to ya'll

[VegasJetta]

Imagine the superpower that would be born if Barry teamed up with Gary C?

[Corbic]

Amazing project.

[barry2952]

I'm new here. Who is Gary C and where can I see his work?

[Gary C]

That'd be this knucklehead right here.

Nice project - though I do have a few questions for you. Why not weld in patches on the sail panel and rear window? My only worry is the long term hold out of taking care of it with glass filler. The only time I use glass impregnated fillers is after the thing has been welded and the seam ground down. All my patch panels are butt weld joints so a very very minimal (1/16") skim coat of filler is needed - if that, and then over a weld I use a resin impregnated filler, without the glass hair / strands, then sand her down and finish it off with a skim coat of glazing putty on restoration work.

Sorry if I'm coming off as critical, I'm not trying to be - I'm absolutely in love with the project, I'd just hate to have to see parts needed to be redone as the years progress, is all. That said I'm in love with your Porsche and your trailer build is unreal. Definitely keep it up!

As far as my work I've got a couple of the more low buck build threads here, with various jobs done at work scattered through out. The low buck stuff is the kind of projects I stick to doing threads on, as not everybody can relate to dumping the 6-10K+ on the jobs done at work.

That said here's a few links to various pics.

'67 Buick with a BBC. After stripping.
http://images114.fotki.com/v64...i.jpg

As delivered. I spent a solid 2+ months working on that thing. Actually welded up and ground some of the panels to get the gaps in order.
http://images114.fotki.com/v65...i.jpg
http://images114.fotki.com/v64...i.jpg

http://images114.fotki.com/v65...i.jpg

http://images114.fotki.com/v65...i.jpg
http://images109.fotki.com/v78...i.jpg

I've got tons and tons more where that came from, including some in progress stuff, though truthfully I haven't been great about documenting them as when you do it for a living, you kinda stop caring about the middle and only care about the start / finish.

[barry2952]

You do very nice work. I wish I had your equipment and your skill. No Ford ever came from the factory that flat.

I chose the filler because it seemed the perfect application after reading the POR-15 literature.

I had considered welding but this is going to be a critical area as the sail panel and emblem is the focus of attention. I wanted to keep the contour as close to original as possible. I can't get to the backside to dolly it out if it warps. Since this is a unit body car there is a whole substructure behind the sheet metal.

I really don't mind when people are critical. I learn from all of my mistakes.

[barry2952]

BTW, I love reflection pictures, too.

[rico_arg]

watching

[Gary C]

Thanks much, I appreciate it.

I definitely feel for you though - those are some long panels to get straight, that's for sure. Based on your other Lincoln (I'm speechless, I just got done checking it out, she's a real beauty, that's for sure ) I have a feeling this one will definitely turn out great as well.

Makes sense as far as the patch goes, if you are working with limited tools, you have to do the best you can, that's for sure. If you ever are looking to add some more budget minded metal working tools to your shop - check out woodward fab, they are actually based out of MI, and have *killer* quality tools at a relatively affordable price - compared to some of the other mfr's out there. For something like the sail panel I would have run a sheet of 18 gauge through my sheet metal roller to get that same arc into her, then cut a square shaped hole, cut and fit the rolled patch for a butt weld joint, then held it in place with magnets. From there I'd go around doing only 2 or 3 tacks and letting it cool completely until the thing was "welded" solid and lightly ground her down once it was cooled - in order to preserve the shape of the thing and not introducing further distortion from the welding and grinding. Definitely takes a good bit of time, that's for sure, but it gives you a nice solid foundation for a repair that will last the life of the car.

http://woodwardfab.com/

Anyhow, keep up the great work and those reflection shots are *great* - really show how straight you got the panels.

[barry2952]

Sorry if I misled you. I didn't do either car. I buy my show cars finished. This one will be a lot rougher.

[Gary C]

Not a problem - in that case whoever did the Lincoln got it straight and you sure do have a beauty on your hands. Definitely doesn't detract from my respect of you or the car at all.