All my mounts came today, now I'm just waiting on the hanger bearing and I'm all set.
For those with Stern tranny mounts, how do you know which way the pass. side mount is installed? It is shaped a lot different than the OEM one and I want to make sure I don't install it upside down since it is not the same top and bottom. Thoughts?
I'm guessing you meant driver side Rob, that's the easy one. I meant this one:
I did the 034 one years ago and it looks the same as stock...this one doesn't have a definite top or bottom to me.
No the car isn't up yet. I just realized that it looks to be the same dimension one way or another and I wanted to make sure I had the right idea before I went to put it in. It seems like the same overall height either way but one side has more urethane and the other has more metal.
Geoff, you have the Racetek FMIC correct? Can you maybe measure how many inches from the bottom of the inlet/outlet to the bottom of the intercooler?
I contacted Treadstone, and they said they can make a 2.5" thick intercooler whatever size I want if I can get 10 buyers. I'm trying to figure exact dimensions, call Treadstone back up, and get the ball rolling. I'm trying to have one built rated at roughly 500hp. Either a core size of 22x10x2.5 (550 cubic inches) or 22x11x2.5 (605 cubic inches), and overall end take to end tank being 28"-30". I also want the intercooler to sit into the valance, like the racetek. If you want to get one, just say so and I'll PM you once I get the ball rolling. As far as pricing, I am thinking no more than $250. But that is just a guess.
Cool. I'm going to try and have a vendor conduct the GB on AZ in all the 1.8t and 2.0t sub-forums to generate interest. I only contacted Dan at RAI so far. If he says he can't do it, then it's onto the next. Hopefully he will be able to do it, though.
Anyways, going to wait for those dimensions. Matter of fact, mind getting me the core height and length dimensions while you are at it. Along with that, end tank to end tank. This will help me decide what size to have the core made in. Once I get those I'll figure out exact dimension specs, pricing, payment process, time frame for delivery, shipping prices, warranty, etc. I asked Mike Hood about this, and he said I should size it between the ER Comp and Racetek. So, 500hp seems the right medium ground.
Only thing I see you needing to do to make this work with your piping is make a new mounting bracket, and transition couplers from whatever size piping you currently have to the 2.5" inlet/outlet I plan on having this intercooler made. That is assuming I can get the dimensions close to Racetek size, minus width. But I am really aiming to make this cool IATs of a 500hp turbo application. Might be the last one you may ever end up needing as long as you own your car.
Last edited by Seerlah; 05-07-2012 at 08:46 PM.
Ya, if I did it I would only want to do it once more with the exception of increasing the piping size later on. acket is not a problem as I made my current set in an afternoon anyway; I just don't want to re-route piping or trim the bumper any more. I will get all dimensions for you as soon as I can...my car is just back on the road after finally having the hanger bearing replaced, as well as the driveshaft CVs and having it balanced. I get to drive it for the first time in pretty much 3 weeks tonight.
I also installed my mounts with the exception of the snub (ran out of time), so I will try to get that done this weekend or next.
To install or how does it drive? The install wasn't bad at all, I had to install the bolt upside down though. I am going to pick it up now though so I'm not sure how it drives yet. The car has been at my buddies shop since I put the mounts in on Sunday.
I meant the ride quality. I installed 034 SD mounts all around when I installed my turbo kit roughly a month and a half ago. No complaints on my end. Prior to that, only had 034 snub mount with cage and stock mounts. I have other drivetrain upgrades, though. Stern Power Ring and Stern rear diff carrier mount bushings. Not sure about the Power Ring, but I'm about positive you have the same rear diff carrier mount bushings. Only reason I went this route is because I came across a deal for them, and figured "why not?". If I had to piece together the mount setup myself, it would be:
Stern soft motor mounts
Stern passenger's side tranny mount
034 TD driver's side tranny mount
034 snub mount with cage
I have the power ring, and yes I also have the rear carrier mounts (stern). There is a slight vibration at idle and a little bit in the pedal while cruising; but they still have to settle and I also have yet to install the snub (I think there is still come movement there.)
The 034 mount is really the way to go, with their snub mount cage. It really permits little to no movement. Unless a company makes a snub mount to fit the casing of the stock bracket (meaning molded to fill it completely)with maybe 1-2mm between the mount and the entire inner wall of the bracket, there is no comparison.
And a vendor on AZ said he will be glad to help with the GB. By AZ guidelines, a paying sponsor has to conduct the GB. So, as soon as I can get specs of the intercooler figured out, I'm going to call Treadstone up and work out the details. Then, the ball for these front mount intercooler should be rolling.
I have a tweaked BF SMIC for my GT2871R (changed outlet to 2.5" with custom 2.5" aluminum TB inlet pipe), and the IATs get up there. I placed a sovereign IAT gauge onto the cold side piping before the TB to monitor my system and today I was easily hitting 145*F (~63*F) with it being roughly 65*F (~18*C) ambient temp. My Vag Com cable acts like a little b*tch and does not like to record at times, so I have yet to be able to log my ignition timing. But with IATs like this, that can't be good. My next step is the Bosch FSI 2.0 ignition coils with IE adapters and better front mount with proper sized piping. Better combustion and better cooling efficiency of air intake temps should make my car much much happier. Once summer hits, my current setup will be far from optimal.
The Racetec seems to do ok, but then I haven't done many runs in a row to cause a heat soak situation.
From what I read my current APR snub mount is known to be crap, so I can't wait to get the stern one in (bought it as a package) and TBH I am not 100% sold on the quality of 034s mounts. I can feel the motor rock on the shifter now because everything else is locked, lol.
The stern mounts also cause a little vibration at cruising speeds, just enough to massage my foot. haha. I figure once they settle it will relax a bit.
I'll more than likely end up getting the Stern units in the future, but not yet. As for current, they suit me just fine. There have been quite a few testings on the Racetek, and it really isn't suitable for the GT2871R. For one, the piping on the kit poses a restriction issue. Then there is the whole actual efficiency of the core. I mean it works, but not like other units such as the 400hp Garrett core. The latest confirmation was by AZ member flynnr who is also running the GT2871R with the Racetek. He switched to a different intercooler (can't recall which one he picked up) and already picked up roughly 300rpm quicker spool. That's just in spooling. Cooling of IATs and top end power is something else.
Last edited by Seerlah; 05-08-2012 at 05:03 PM.
I figured out what dimensions I want to roll with, Geoff. No need to measure for me. Some details.
Core: 22x10x2.5 (what I already told Treadstone) or 22x10.5x2.5
End to End: 29.xx inches
Offset from bottom of inlet/outlet lip to bottom of intercooler: 3"
Inlet/Outlet: 2.5" with diverter casted into the end tanks like on their TR8/10 models to distribute airflow throughout the intercooler core
Hangers: On side like the TR8/10 model
Price: Below $200 a pop before shipping with 10+ buyers
The lead time is a while. I first need to send him a $500 refundable deposit to have the end tanks cast, since they are aluminum molded and not sheet metal welded. That $500 is so they don't lose money if I flake. Once the GB is complete, I get the $500 back. He said it will take roughly 3 months for the mold to be made, and 4-5 month total. So, going to sell my Greddy intercooler I have laying around towards deposit for the mold to get the ball moving (mees a broke guy). If it was to be a hold on a credit card, I would have already paid. But it is a cash deposit needed. Anyways, that's an update.
The measurements of the actual core of the Racetek is 18x10(really 9 7/8)x2. That equates to 360 cubic inches. My Boost factory side mount is 384 (or maybe 386) cubic inches, just to give you an idea. The core I want to use is 22x10x2.5 and that equates to 550 cubic inches. I am guesstimating it is efficient anywhere from 450-500hp. I will ask Jason at Treadstone next time I talk to him. But it is def efficient for the GT2871R. And the beauty of it is it will fit behind the stock bumper rather nice, if I took the measurements correctly. Placed measure tap to my car, and everything seems like it would be legit.
I am also going to ask one of my friends to front me the money for a couple months (just give him back the refundable deposit after all is said and done). Should not be that big of an issue. If he can do it, then it makes the transition that much easier.
Last edited by Seerlah; 05-09-2012 at 02:30 PM.