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      01-23-2008 08:38 PM #1
      does anyone know where i could find some?
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      01-23-2008 08:40 PM #2
      http://www.raderwerks.com/





      Modified by Conejo GTI at 4:42 PM 1-23-2008


    3. 01-23-2008 08:42 PM #3
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      Didn't BBS lay a cease and desist smackdown on those guys?


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      01-23-2008 08:50 PM #4
      looking for replica LM's or RS's, i know the konig remember's are close but they are still hard to find
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      01-23-2008 08:51 PM #5
      i've always wondered how the 'replica' wheel market worked... what's the difference between 'replica' and counterfeit?

      just because it's not marked as BBS, it's still counterfeit, right?


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      01-23-2008 09:28 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by TurboREX »
      looking for replica LM's or RS's, i know the konig remember's are close but they are still hard to find

      Raderwerks has LM reps... or they did... email Russ. Seriously, these may be the best reps on the market.

      Check this thread out... http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3369377 there are some pis of their LM reps in there somewhere.

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      01-23-2008 09:29 PM #7
      Raderwerks no longer carries the LM reps, as far as I know. BBS laid a cease and desist order on the manufacturer that Raderwerks was dealing with.

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    8. 01-23-2008 09:32 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by NoDubJustYet »
      what's the difference between 'replica' and counterfeit?

      The difference is semantics. No one feels warm and fuzzy when they tell people, 'Hey, I just put some sweet-ass counterfeit wheels on my car!' They feel better about the word 'replica' because it doesn't leave them with the same feeling they had after buying a set of speakers from a guy in a white van in the Home Depot parking lot.

      Quote, originally posted by NoDubJustYet »
      just because it's not marked as BBS, it's still counterfeit, right?

      Right.


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      01-23-2008 09:35 PM #9
      BB5s... FTMFW !!

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      01-23-2008 09:36 PM #10

      pretty sure those Rotas clone some BBS wheel. Getting them under your wagon might be a slight challenge, 18*8 only I really wanted a pair, but then I got some authentic BBS's so all is good now!


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      01-23-2008 09:38 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by TurboREX »
      looking for replica LM's or RS's, i know the konig remember's are close but they are still hard to find

      Ebay. Same manufacturer but usually cheaper. Plenty of guys on the vortex have LM reps off ebay.


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      01-23-2008 10:11 PM #12
      Quote, originally posted by Smindustries »

      The difference is semantics. No one feels warm and fuzzy when they tell people, 'Hey, I just put some sweet-ass counterfeit wheels on my car!' They feel better about the word 'replica' because it doesn't leave them with the same feeling they had after buying a set of speakers from a guy in a white van in the Home Depot parking lot.


      Right.

      I know how it works for everything else... it's kinda my job. at times...

      I was just waiting for some sort of goofy CL response.


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      01-23-2008 10:23 PM #13
      Quote, originally posted by Demo24 »

      pretty sure those Rotas clone some BBS wheel. Getting them under your wagon might be a slight challenge, 18*8 only I really wanted a pair, but then I got some authentic BBS's so all is good now!

      Those are clones of the BBS RE wheels.


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      01-23-2008 10:24 PM #14
      ASA Wheels are an officially licensed BBS clone/replica wheel.

      Fairly affordable as well.


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      01-29-2008 08:16 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by AllieJetta »
      ASA Wheels are an officially licensed BBS clone/replica wheel.

      Fairly affordable as well.

      These kinda look like RGRs


    16. 01-29-2008 08:48 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by TurboREX »
      looking for replica LM's or RS's, i know the konig remember's are close but they are still hard to find


      theres a local selling. pm if interested. (konigs)


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      01-29-2008 09:07 PM #17
      Quote, originally posted by Smindustries »

      The difference is semantics. No one feels warm and fuzzy when they tell people, 'Hey, I just put some sweet-ass counterfeit wheels on my car!' They feel better about the word 'replica' because it doesn't leave them with the same feeling they had after buying a set of speakers from a guy in a white van in the Home Depot parking lot.

      Though I understand where you are coming from, I think the difference lies in the "branding". A replica will be branded Raderwerks or Rota, while a counterfiet would be labeled BBS and attempted to be passed off as an original. If I go to Canal street and buy a Rolex, I know its a counterfeit....but I can go to Sears and buy a Citizen that LOOKS like a rolex, but doesnt claim to be one, and is obviously sub-par quality.


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      01-29-2008 10:11 PM #18
      someone i work with had the raderwerks bbs LMs replicas, they were damn good for a rep

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      01-29-2008 10:15 PM #19
      LM reps? PM me. I just got some for my TT off ebay. They are the ones that used to be sold by raderwerks.





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    20. 01-29-2008 10:39 PM #20

      gun metal Huffs


    21. 01-29-2008 11:27 PM #21
      I hate replica wheels.

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      01-29-2008 11:29 PM #22
      I'd never run BBS Reps on any car I owned. Either BBS or not; but not BBS knockoffs.

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      01-29-2008 11:37 PM #23
      Quote, originally posted by JrodVW »
      I'd never run BBS Reps on any car I owned. Either BBS or not; but not BBS knockoffs.

      Yup. Pay to play, thanks.

      There's plently of creative ways to have great wheels, but if you want the look do it right..

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      01-29-2008 11:41 PM #24
      Quote, originally posted by the brit »
      Yup. Pay to play, thanks.

      There's plently of creative ways to have great wheels, but if you want the look do it right..

      Glad someone is in agreement. The style is just one aspect of the BBS wheel and others offer similar looks. BBS are very expensive because they really are tough as nails, very well engineered, excellently crafted wheels. They are among the best wheels you can buy. I'd feel like a poser schmuck with some crappy cast alloy BBS reps on my car.


    25. 01-29-2008 11:41 PM #25

      RM copy, cast, 1 piece (unknown brand/make)


      RS copy, cast, 1 piece (Konig Maxxim Remember)


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      01-29-2008 11:47 PM #26
      Quote, originally posted by FLank_Sinatra »

      gun metal Huffs

      All huffs look like that. They just used lighting to make the machined face look darker.


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      01-29-2008 11:50 PM #27
      Quote, originally posted by JrodVW »
      I'd never run BBS Reps on any car I owned. Either BBS or not; but not BBS knockoffs.

      ASA are BBS but they are manufactured in Korea. Best bang for the buck.

      http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/asa/asa_info.jsp

      In 1990, ASA decided to build a state-of-the-art alloy wheel manufacturing facility. Knowing the complexity and challenge this presented, ASA went to BBS in Germany to tap the best technical knowledge in facility design, manufacturing processes and quality controls for producing high quality alloy wheels. Production began at the new facility in Jeywon, South Korea in March 1992.

      Their agreement with BBS, a world leader in wheel technology, engineering and manufacturing with over two decades of success in the racing community and the high-end aftermarket worldwide, is still in effect today. This cooperative agreement gives ASA valuable access to technical and product information that BBS gains from their motorsports and manufacturing involvement.

      By basing its quality standards around those used by BBS, in 1994 ASA became one of the first alloy wheel companies to obtain ISO9001. In 1999 ASA obtained QS9000 certification, one of the highest quality standards in the automotive industry. (ISO9001 and QS9000 are world-recognized standards for quality.)

      These high quality standards have allowed ASA to produce over 750,000 Original Equipment wheels per year for vehicle manufacturers in Europe and Asia. With a total capacity to produce over 1.2 million wheels per year, ASA produces aftermarket wheels with the excess capacity and exports to 51 countries around the world.

      The ASA name, Artisan Spirited Alloy, is reflected in their exotic, elegant, and exciting wheel designs.

      The product line that ASA develops for The Tire Rack has been created with a high level of service and close cooperation between the two companies. The Tire Rack will offer a complete range of ASA wheels for cars, light trucks and SUVs. As the relationship with ASA develops further, look for many new items to satisfy your wheel needs.

      Production began at this state-of-the-art facility in Jeywon, South Korea in 1992.

      ASA's close relationship with BBS provides valuable access to technical knowledge and high-quality manufacturing processes


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      01-30-2008 12:16 AM #28
      Quote, originally posted by JrodVW »

      Glad someone is in agreement. The style is just one aspect of the BBS wheel and others offer similar looks. BBS are very expensive because they really are tough as nails, very well engineered, excellently crafted wheels. They are among the best wheels you can buy. I'd feel like a poser schmuck with some crappy cast alloy BBS reps on my car.

      I mean, don't get me wrong, the set of RMs that I run on my beater are not exactly the pinnacle of strong wheels - they bend pretty damn easily... But aside from manufacturing quality etc, the fakes just cheapen the real thing, which really in the grand scheme of things, aren't all that expensive.

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      01-30-2008 12:32 AM #29
      Quote, originally posted by the brit »

      Yup. Pay to play, thanks.

      There's plently of creative ways to have great wheels, but if you want the look do it right..

      I don't think it is a problem if people have replicas and don't pretend to have the real thing. What is the problem in that?

      Most people won't use the full features of a real LM wheel anyhow. If I drive my car on regular roads at normal speeds what need do I have for a 3200-5000 dollar set of wheels?


      Should I get them for the brand recognition then? Oh wait, that is faux pas as well.


      If you throw BBS centercaps on reps, that is different situation. I find arguments that hinge on the "you pay to play" argument to be elitist and ridiculous.


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      01-30-2008 12:39 AM #30
      Quote, originally posted by Bmorlok »

      If you throw BBS centercaps on reps, that is different situation. I find arguments that hinge on the "you pay to play" argument to be elitist and ridiculous.

      I agree with this. To me, if I was that concerned about the brand of wheel I had vs. the styling yes I wouldn't want BBS knock off. If I was going for the look of say an LM and didn't have the money to get an authentic set I would happily go for some knock offs. Some people seem so concerned with just having a brand name for bragging rights. Now I'm sure real BBS's are much higher quality I'm not denying that.

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      01-30-2008 12:42 AM #31
      Quote, originally posted by B3passatBMX »
      Now I'm sure real BBS's are much higher quality I'm not denying that.

      Bingo. That's why I'd want real ones. I wouldn't want "replicas" claiming to be. Like I said, there are plenty of wheels with similar style and that's fine, but not many of comparable quality.

      Why don't I just stick a Patek Philippe decal on my Citizen?


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      01-30-2008 01:20 AM #32
      AS a BBS wheel owner, this thread should be locked!!! lol

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      01-30-2008 01:25 AM #33
      Quote, originally posted by Bmorlok »
      I find arguments that hinge on the "you pay to play" argument to be elitist and ridiculous.

      So you'll be rocking black steelies from now on? If not, get creative, choose different wheels, a different finish, something, anything. It seems as though being a cheap sheep is pretty ridiculous..

      The BBS's are their own design and I wish the company would go after the copies more often. If you can't afford the real thing, find a different design - there's hundreds of different (cheaper) wheels out there. The copies are not just 'nice wheels', they're knock-offs, copies, fakes, pure and simple. They are sold, marketed and described as copies of the originals, pure and simple.

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      01-30-2008 01:26 AM #34
      Quote, originally posted by the brit »

      So you'll be rocking black steelies from now on? If not, get creative, choose different wheels, a different finish, something, anything. It seems as though being a cheap sheep is pretty ridiculous..

      The BBS's are their own design and I wish the company would go after the copies more often. If you can't afford the real thing, find a different design - there's hundreds of different (cheaper) wheels out there. The copies are not just 'nice wheels', they're knock-offs, copies, fakes, pure and simple. They are sold, marketed and described as copies of the originals, pure and simple.

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      01-30-2008 11:44 AM #35
      Quote, originally posted by the brit »

      The BBS's are their own design and I wish the company would go after the copies more often.

      BBS licesned ASA to make replicas of their wheels. It's not a matter of going after copies. It's being more cost efficient in the manufacturing process while maintaining the same design standard.

      My RX's bent in the first 2 months I had owned them. Did I feel stupid buying wheels that cost half the value of my car and only lasted for two months?


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