What if a family member is the US would like to gift a vehicle to me here in Canada (Quebec)?
I imagine I would still need to pay tax on it... how is that assessed? Or would I be free? Anyone done this?
Quote, originally posted by Drake_Orion » Not sure about the bill of sale. I would assume they would want the paperwork/receipts when you first bought the car in order to get the proper plates from whatever province you're currently in. From my own experience, they will need to know how much you bought the car for as the price will affect how much tax you pay when crossing the border. The suspension shouldn't be an issue. I brought a lowered dub into Ontario last year and it wasn't a problem.
Modified by Drake_Orion at 2:06 PM 3-24-2010
Sweet thanks!! I'm not sure what you mean by paperwork/receipts from when I bought it though. I bought it private sale, and we don't keep the copy of the bill of sale. That goes to the DMV. I can let them know the price I paid, just don't have any documentation as to prove it. Glaaaaad about the suspension, as my car is REALLY low, lol.
I phoned the Peace Bridge border crossing ( (905) 994-6330) and asked them what i needed to bring an older vehicle back from the states...and they did NOT want me to fax them the bill of sale or ownership...claimed they would take care of everything when I arrived wth the vehicle
have things changed!?
Help me out with this.
I want to buy a vehicle in the US. It will go from the previous owners house, to a shop to get some bodywork, paint, and interior. By the time it gets to the border crossing it will be worth a few bucks more and look alot better. What are my options in this situation?
I'll have the bill of sale to pay tax on. Do i need to also pay tax on the service/work that will be done? Tax on new parts/materials?
Or will they look on the net to assess its market value?
I'm writing this post to document and archive my experience.
- bought a 96 Jetta GLX from Florida in 2005
- drove it from Florida to Toronto on Dec. 30th 2006. When I got to the border I was allowed to bring it into the country with no trouble because I am a dual-citizen. When I showed my American passport I was now a visitor and did not have to pay anything at the border and could drive in as a tourist.
- the car went into storage in Toronto for 2 1/2 years soon after. When I took the car out of storage in 2010 I started the import process, this is now almost 3 years later.
- I called the border to find out if I had to drive it back there to start the import process. I explained my story that I was also a US citizen and was now going to reside in Canada and wanted to import the car but it is already in the country. They told me to contact the INLAND BORDER SERVICE. Keep in mind, this IBS is not listed in any yellow pages, google search or anything that I could find. I was given the address of one of the TWO places in and around Toronto which is 5425 Dixie Road in Mississauga and 2720 Britannia Rd E.
- once I went to the IBS I explained my situation once again and I was classified as a returning resident and as such had an allowance that my car value was way under, especially with my "Bill Of Sale" stating I bought the car from my father for $200 . It was here that I received the infamous FORM 1 I think
- the next step was to go to the RIV and pay them their $200 fee for FORM 2
- after this I went to Canadian Tire to get my inspection. They only checked the stickers on the door jams and that I had DRL's, this is a free inspection.
- the next step was to get a "Safety Check" and an "Emissions Test", I think we all know about these
- the final step was to get insurance, this was the tricky part. I had to call around various brokers, explain the situation and tell them the car was in storage at the mechanic who was taking care of all the inspections, etc etc and I needed to get it insured even though it was not yet registered in Canada so I could drive it to the MTO to get the plate. After I found a reasonable insurance rate I went to the MTO with my FORM 1, E-Test, Safety and Proof of Insurance and got a plate for $38 and that was it. I never had to pay taxes on the car because I was a returning resident
Last edited by lowazzgolf; 08-06-2010 at 01:04 PM.
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Just finished importing a used 2010 VW CC Luxury from the USA into Canada. Did the importing at the Lewiston NY border crossing. Spent 20 minutes with US Customs to export the vehicle, then 15 minutes with Canada Customs to import the vehicle. Followed the RIV process to a "T". Went smooth. The secret is to go early in the day and mid week, to avoid any customs lineups.
Seems like the process has been modified / simplified in Lewiston / Barfalo...
Here is what I went through on Feb 25th, 2011 for a 1981 VW Camper (Towed over the border)
Details needed in Advance
....Emailed firstname.lastname@example.org 3 days in advance - VIN, Make, Model, Year, my Name etc
....Confirmation email recieved from border indicating I can cross anytime after 72 hours
....No faxing or photo copies needed
....Cargo and Frieght Office is normal sized red door, in customs warehouse on US side
.........this is on the left before the bridge, basically on the OTHER side of the road when returning to Canada
....Showed title and passport (but directions in e-mail below indicated they may want more)
....Officer checked my VIN - sent me to Canada - no paperwork but a stamp on my title
.... 5 minutes tops
....Heavily questioned by initial screener
....5 minutes of questions
....Given Yellow card indicating I owe duties on price of Van
....Proceed to Secondary Inspection Site ... just follow signs
....Fill out form 1 ... show title, BOS
....Questioned again (see below)
....Pay 6% duty and 5% GST
........no RIV as it is old
........no A/C tax as no one could prove it had A/C ... just a blue and red dot on the dash
....20 minutes total in office
....Drive to Canada paying $6.50 in tolls
Points to Note:
....was asked by many officers for a copy of the ORIGINAL AD listing the vehicle, asking price etc
....this is likely to keep people honest on the 'sale price' they show on the forms
....officer checked the Samba for about 15 minutes trying to find the add
....asked sellers name, state, asking price MANY times
....after not finding the ad - they just said 'looks like you got a good price'
....moral of the story, be VERY careful if you are planning to declare a lower price than you paid
e-mail below is the instructions from the buffalo border patrol after I e-mailed them my VIN etc
From CBPO RHODES
This e-mail response serves as your confirmation that CBP has received your vehicle export information. You may export the vehicle 72 hours from receipt of this e-mail during regular business hours.
Business hours are Monday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. We are closed on all U.S. federal holidays.
The Lewiston Bridge is the only place to export a vehicle in Western New York.
Vehicles for export may not be brought to Canada prior to being formally exported by U.S. Customs and Border Protection. Failure to comply with the requirements set forth in 19 CFR 192.2 may result in a penalty action.
Things required at time of vehicle export:
1. The vehicle which is to be exported.
2. Original title. Vehicles that have no title, (ex: snowmobiles, ATV’s, backhoes, forklifts, etc) must present a registration and/or bill of sale. Registration and/or bill of sale serves as your ownership (title). This requirement varies from state to state. It is your responsibility to determine what that state’s ownership requirements are.
3. WHTI compliant identification for yourself and all parties with you. Please refer to the following website for information on WHTI compliant identification: http://www.getyouhome.gov/
4. Lien release if a lien is present on the vehicle. Note: This can be done by having the finance company sign off on the original title itself (along with the finance company’s stamp) or an original letter from the finance company indicating that the lien is released. For those vehicles that are still being financed, you may present a certified copy of the title, along with an original letter from the finance company that states that the vehicle can be exported.
5. This printed, e-mail confirmation including your original message to CBP.
Additional information can be obtained via the Vehicle Export information line (716)843-8359.
All questions must be directed to email@example.com.
Vehicle Export Office
US Customs and Border Protection
1 Lewiston Plaza
Lewiston, NY 14092
Phone: (716) 282-1500 option 3 (emergencies only)
Phone: (716) 843-8359 (information line only)
Fax: (716) 285-3565
Last edited by frateretto; 02-25-2011 at 05:46 PM.
The stamps on both 'forms' ... yes, but it's the process & details to get those stamps you need to be clear on.
It's not hard but you need to do your homework and arrive prepared. Customs people have no sense of humor, nor do they care. They can be friendly, but you can't just show up and hope things work out well ...
I am thinking of importing a VW Doka from the US. It was originally a Canadian vehicle and it is older than 15 years old (1985).
My questions are regarding modifications. The truck has aftermarket tube steel bumpers and a different engine than it came with stock. Will this cause me any problems at the border?
the US economy is, generally speaking, in the tank ... so new or used a good deal should be easier to find. only place you will not likley find a good deal is on a domestic
different reasons for new to be cheaper vs. used to be cheaper (both vs. Canada), but cheaper all the same
actually no, but I can drive slower ...
I think I am in a similar situation to Lowazzgolf, being a US citizen.
I am living/working in Toronto on a visa. I finally sold my car that was just a pain to import(long story) and I am looking to buy something else.
Am I exempt from the taxes if I buy in the states? I will be financing, if that means anything. I am not trying to beat the system, but if I am able to get a car for 3-4k less, why not check?
If you are on a work permit in Canada you will not have to pay taxes on that vehicle or switch plates to be Canadian. Since you are consider a temporary resident which means that at the end of the permit you will be going back.
So yes, it would make sense for you to buy the vehicle in the USA.
If you guys have any other questions you can write them up here or pm me. i will try to help you out.
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