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    Thread: HOW TO Thread - Importing a car from USA

    1. Member r32argent's Avatar
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      03-22-2009 08:41 AM #51
      Quote, originally posted by Bugs »
      any additional steps needed for the R32 since it was it previously wasnt allowed into Canada?

      I hope to import my second US car at the end of next 2010. You sir, beat me to it

      Modified by Bugs at 6:42 PM 3-18-2009

      No extra steps -- I just followed the instructions on the RIV and Customs' websites for any other admissible vehicle (pretty much the same as described in this thread).
      Since I have OEM HIDs, I'd disabled my DRLs. Before I left the U.S. I modded some wiring to have a couple LEDs work as DRLs.
      Anywhoo, if the R's stock you won't have to worry about it.
      Aside: For some reason Canada Customs at Queenston-Lewiston couldn't look up my R's trade-in/resale value on their computers. I wonder how long that will last.


      Modified by r32argent at 8:45 AM 3-22-2009
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      03-22-2009 03:09 PM #52

      When you're importing a vehicle they open a file that remains valid for X number of days, correct?
      What if you have no intention of registering the car in your name and driving it? (ie: a totaled parts car you trailer home)
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    3. 05-11-2009 12:28 AM #53
      whats the talk about the Electronic Immobilizer System? As i understand, cas manufactured after sept 1, 2007 have these built in.
      Im looking to get a '05 350z, and i guess it wont be equipped with one. Will i need to get this EIS installed to get it imported? or its only required for cars that were manufactured after sept 1, 2007 that did not come with it?
      also whats the duty tax on cars made in japan?


      Modified by val@illicitvw at 1:11 AM 5-11-2009

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      05-23-2009 06:15 PM #54
      Quote, originally posted by mushroom_curry »
      When you're importing a vehicle they open a file that remains valid for X number of days, correct?
      What if you have no intention of registering the car in your name and driving it? (ie: a totaled parts car you trailer home)

      You can declare it as a "parts" vehicle. The VIN will be recorded and never able to get it registered later....I did this on a wrecked scirocco.
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    5. 06-02-2009 12:29 PM #55
      Wow,
      What an awesome thread. I am new to the Vortex and wanted to say thanks for putting this info together. It has saved me a ton of time and guess work!
      I am in the process of importing an '05 A6 that I am buying off ebay.
      So far everything with the car checks out ... the tip on getting an independent 3rd party to take the pics really helped. It took alot of the worry out of buying a car with stone chips, hidden problems etc.
      The ebay Carfax report was pretty impressive for a free report, but I still had the another check done by someone I trust.
      1 owner, regular service, nothing stood out.
      I put down a small deposit and am waiting to drive the car and do a physical inspection at the border before I complete the sale with the dealer.
      Right now I am waiting for the Recall letter and working on getting confirmation that the border (Detroit) has received the Title Docs.
      I am hoping to bring the car over the border this Sat... I will keep everyone updated if I run into an hitches anyone should know about.

      Modified by cwjstone at 11:45 AM 6-2-2009


      Modified by cwjstone at 12:11 PM 6-2-2009

    6. 06-09-2009 11:03 PM #56
      Just a couple of updates. Port Huron is closed from noon friday to Monday at 8am.
      The 72 hours does not include saturday or Sunday.
      You must have the original title and any original letters of lein release for US and Canada Customs. It is a good idea to print the Fax transmittal roll and have it with you.
      The Recall letter is required by RIV not Customs.
      NAFTA cars are exempt of duty- anything made outside is subject to duty. A "W" GTI(german manuf.) is 6%. Plus $100 air tax plus GST on the total of these and RST at the DLO Total of 19%!!!!
      You must have a bill of sale for Canada customs or declared a high price else you will have a difficult time with the customs inspectors confirming the purchase price including contacting the seller.
      Not all CTC are authorized to do the federal inspection. Ask!
      It is good to make a recall letter part of your original deal so if the car is subject to a campaign it can be booked into the dealer while you are waiting for the 72 hours. Not al Cdn divisiions will do the recalls on a US car.
      VW warrants up to 08 without any question. They will not warrant US 09s. The exception seems to be with exteneded warranty.
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    7. 07-21-2009 09:41 AM #57
      I bought my '05 R6 last year in Boston. Had an excellent ride back, other then a sore ass.
      The US customs were great, no problems at all, but the Canadian side gave me huge problems when they couldn't believe the price I paid for it. Even with the bill of sale, they wanted to contact the owner and speak to him dirrectly just to double check on the price.
      They held me for about 30min.
      I tried my best to help them understand how I found this bike and why the person sold it to me at that price (rich, didn't care about the price, took the cash i offered).
      They couldn't get in touch with the seller, but they noticed I was very respectful and explained everything in detail. At the end they began to be very friendly and cool about everything.
      Overall I had a smooth transaction,
      But I never received the letter from Yamaha US untill I was in Canada with the bike, no one asked for it at the border. It did take 4 weeks though!!

    8. 07-22-2009 03:10 PM #58
      yeah the canadian side sure does ask a lot of questions...like where i found the car...and the specific web page...how and when i contacted the seller...im thinking they are flipping the information to marketeers or finding out ways to make more money themselves on the import business.


      Modified by ST33LR4T at 3:12 PM 7-22-2009

    9. 08-27-2009 07:51 AM #59
      its the gov't - they are always trying to find ways to make money of us

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      10-13-2009 02:20 PM #60
      Quote, originally posted by Bugs »
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      - Get dealership to fax title (both sides) to you, so that you can fax it to the U.S. border crossing at least 72h in advance of coming back.

      I'm wondering - are you saying that you can do this before the sale? I've heard that some border crossings will only accept original documents (no faxes), let alone a faxed title that presumably doesn't have your name on it yet as the owner.
      The riv.ca website says that "You will need to provide U.S. Customs and Border Protection with your vehicle title documents, registration and sales receipts at least 72 hours prior to export." I dont' see how this can be done before the sale.
      Anyways, I might be doing this soon, so I was hoping you could clarify your comments - other than that, your checklist has been a huge help

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      10-13-2009 09:20 PM #61
      Quote, originally posted by myothercarsaseaking »
      I'm wondering - are you saying that you can do this before the sale? I've heard that some border crossings will only accept original documents (no faxes), let alone a faxed title that presumably doesn't have your name on it yet as the owner.
      The riv.ca website says that "You will need to provide U.S. Customs and Border Protection with your vehicle title documents, registration and sales receipts at least 72 hours prior to export." I dont' see how this can be done before the sale.
      Anyways, I might be doing this soon, so I was hoping you could clarify your comments - other than that, your checklist has been a huge help


      They require a fax copy 72 hours prior to crossing so they can start paper work. You will require the original paper when you actually cross the border.
      And yes, you will need to have the car signed over to you before you cross.
      I had the deal finished, money wired to the dealer and title put into my name and a copy faxed to the border 72 hours in advance. When i crossed, I gave them the original and all is well
      its a bit of a juggle. You either have to go down and do the deal in person, and go back down later to get the vehicle, OR buy it site unseen
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      10-14-2009 07:53 AM #62
      Thanks a lot for the quick reply. I just called up a border crossing and got more or less the same response.
      The tricky bit is that apparently different crossings will have different requirements. Stupid but true. Some require original documents to be couriered, some will allow copies to be couriered, and some will also accept faxed copies (all 72 hrs before bringing the vehicle across, mind you).
      Oh, and to complicate things even more, the US Customs website specifically says that only the Vehicle Title needs to be sent 72 hrs in advance ... but the border crossing I called says they require the Title and Bill of Sale.
      Anyways, for anybody who's reading this and confused as hell, the moral of the story is:
      1) US Customs agents apparently make their own rules,
      2) There's nothing you can do about it,
      3) You better call ahead to the border crossing you're planning on using and find out what they want and when they want it (you can find the numbers on riv.ca).
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      There's a site that's full of useful information on this subject, but unfortunately its servers seem to be down more often than not. Luckily google has a cached version:
      http://74.125.95.132/search?q=...gl=ca
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      Oh, and for anyone crossing at Houlton/Woodstock in the near future, here's what I found out:
      - They require the Title and Bill of Sale 72 hrs prior to bringing the car across.
      - They "usually only" accept couriered originals (his exact words).

    13. 11-03-2009 11:48 AM #63
      I have owned my car for a year already and I'm wondering if you have to pay the GST if you have owned the car for a length of time and are not importing a brand 'new to you' car. I can't seem to find any information on this. Or do every car have to pay the GST on the invoice price regardless.
      Great thread BTW

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      11-19-2009 09:26 PM #64
      Does anyone have experience bringing a car in for parts? I'd be bringing in an obviouly wrecked car, and will even cut the roof off if necessary. I don't plan on rebuilding the car, I just want the drivetrain.
      I'm pretty sure you still have to export the car on the US side, but what is required on the Canadian side?
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      12-15-2009 12:55 PM #65
      Quote, originally posted by BennyB »
      Does anyone have experience bringing a car in for parts? I'd be bringing in an obviouly wrecked car, and will even cut the roof off if necessary. I don't plan on rebuilding the car, I just want the drivetrain.
      I'm pretty sure you still have to export the car on the US side, but what is required on the Canadian side?

      The US side is the same proceedure...fax title in advance blah blah, they stamp the title you're good to go
      The Canadian side its merely a different form to fill out, you pay the same taxes and duty...and if the car has AC you'll still pay the pollution tax for that.
      But then you have none of the follow up, no trip to the MTO to register, no inspection at CTC.
      Pretty easy.
      So yeah, if you've imported, say, a caddy for personal use before, then as far as the border is concerned its same office, different form.

    16. 12-16-2009 11:49 AM #66
      Could someone tell me if you have had your vehicle in the US and had it for some time do you still have to pay taxes on the car if you are moving back to canada and taking the car with you. Is there a time limit you must own your car and not have to pay Canadian taxes on it?
      I ask because I might be buying a new car and moving back to Canada in 6 month so I'm wondering if I would have to pay both US and Canadian taxes. Anyone?

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      02-17-2010 11:36 AM #67
      What's the closest border crossing in Detroit, Michigan?
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    18. 02-18-2010 08:53 AM #68
      My guess would be Windsor or Winsor...not sure of spelling

    19. 03-24-2010 04:43 PM #69
      Not sure if anyone still comes here, but if so it would be great.
      I currently live in Canada, however I USED to live in the states. I bought my car while living in the US, and I registered/insured it. Car is a 2003 Audi a4 Avant. It is lowered on coilovers, but mechanically has no add ons done. Just curious if I still need stuff like a bill of sale, or if they need to know prices, etc. Also wanted to know if my suspension modifications will be a problem. Thanks for any/all help!

    20. 03-24-2010 05:01 PM #70
      Not sure about the bill of sale. I would assume they would want the paperwork/receipts when you first bought the car in order to get the proper plates from whatever province you're currently in. From my own experience, they will need to know how much you bought the car for as the price will affect how much tax you pay when crossing the border. The suspension shouldn't be an issue. I brought a lowered dub into Ontario last year and it wasn't a problem.


      Modified by Drake_Orion at 2:18 PM 3-24-2010

    21. 03-24-2010 05:09 PM #71
      Quote, originally posted by Drake_Orion »
      Not sure about the bill of sale. I would assume they would want the paperwork/receipts when you first bought the car in order to get the proper plates from whatever province you're currently in. From my own experience, they will need to know how much you bought the car for as the price will affect how much tax you pay when crossing the border. The suspension shouldn't be an issue. I brought a lowered dub into Ontario last year and it wasn't a problem.

      Modified by Drake_Orion at 2:06 PM 3-24-2010

      Sweet thanks!! I'm not sure what you mean by paperwork/receipts from when I bought it though. I bought it private sale, and we don't keep the copy of the bill of sale. That goes to the DMV. I can let them know the price I paid, just don't have any documentation as to prove it. Glaaaaad about the suspension, as my car is REALLY low, lol.

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      04-22-2010 08:24 AM #72
      What if a family member is the US would like to gift a vehicle to me here in Canada (Quebec)?
      I imagine I would still need to pay tax on it... how is that assessed? Or would I be free? Anyone done this?

    23. 04-27-2010 08:42 PM #73
      I phoned the Peace Bridge border crossing ( (905) 994-6330) and asked them what i needed to bring an older vehicle back from the states...and they did NOT want me to fax them the bill of sale or ownership...claimed they would take care of everything when I arrived wth the vehicle

      have things changed!?

    24. 04-28-2010 03:42 PM #74
      The fax they need is a 72 hour notice of your intention on bringing the car into Canada

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      06-05-2010 10:36 PM #75
      Help me out with this.

      I want to buy a vehicle in the US. It will go from the previous owners house, to a shop to get some bodywork, paint, and interior. By the time it gets to the border crossing it will be worth a few bucks more and look alot better. What are my options in this situation?

      I'll have the bill of sale to pay tax on. Do i need to also pay tax on the service/work that will be done? Tax on new parts/materials?

      Or will they look on the net to assess its market value?

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