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Thread: Early Omni 4Speed --- it IS a VW 020 box -- proof inside

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    02-07-2008 12:28 AM #1
    This trans was pulled from an early VW powered Dodge Omni.
    i believe that this is the A412 (dodge number) but am not posative.

    see the different drive flange. just swap out a VW drive flange and you have an operable 4spd. (not that anyone but racers really want a 4spd anyway )

    up next: splitting the case to see what gears came in them. 1st thru 4th. Hopefully, there are some different 2nd and 3rd gears that weren't available in the VW line.

    i have heard that the R/P is a 3.42 which is NOT available in any VW.

    I also just purchased an Omni R/P that is also supposed to be from an early omni. i counted the teeth tonight and found the ring gear to have 74 and the pinion to have 20 = 3.70. so, maybe there is another R/P combo.

    feel free to chime in.

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    02-07-2008 07:38 AM #2
    Nice

    100mm flange? It looks like a VW 100mm flange, just drilled for the Omni axles.

    Get more pics

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    02-07-2008 11:21 PM #3
    1st Gear: 38/11 =3.455
    2nd Gear: 35/18 = 1.94
    3rd Gear: 36/28 = 1.29
    4th Gear: 31/32 = .97

    These are the same 2nd thru 4th of a GC

    R/P => 73/21 = 3.48

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    Modified by Shrttrackr at 9:00 PM 2-18-2008


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    02-07-2008 11:38 PM #4
    BEFORE anyone says that i am getting the internals dirty ---- i took the back plate off the trans and found a bunch of debris so i pretty much concluded that the trans was useless. hopefully, the R/P are still OK.


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    02-07-2008 11:39 PM #5
    interesting, I always wounderred about this after hearing they used vw motors, and also that they looks very similiar to the rabbits
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    02-08-2008 03:27 AM #6
    Quote, originally posted by Shrttrackr »
    the Ring gear has 73 teeth and i have not torn down enough to count the pinion gear.

    But 73 is not anything that VW has listed as a R/P.

    hopefully, this one is the 3.42 R/P.

    It won't be a 3.42 with a 73T ring gear, 3.48 is about as close as it could get...

    73/22 = 3.32
    73/21 = 3.48
    73/20 = 3.65
    73/19 = 3.84
    73/18 = 4.05
    73/17 = 4.29
    73/16 = 4.56
    73/15 = 4.87

    Yeah, 4th sync looks shot and chewed up.
    It sure looks like a VW trans to me though, thanks for the pics!

    Oh, when marking the teeth like that for counting, I mark every 10th tooth.... count out 10 teeth, mark the 10th one, then the 20th, and the 30th and so on... because I always manage to loose my place. I just back up and won't lose any more than 10 in my count. The marks can be counted quickly spread out every 10 teeth like that as well.

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    02-08-2008 07:16 PM #7
    Hey Broke,

    I realized that my math was incorrect after i posted and just didn't feel like changing it.

    as for the drive flanges, they are not 100mm but i have not measured them exactly yet. i'll do that tonight as well as post the remaining gear ratios and trans codes.

    i mark every tooth as i loose concentration if i do not.... i think i have ADD....

    i'm posting this so you can update your trans site and be the ONLY site to have the OMNI/VW trans info.


    Modified by Shrttrackr at 6:17 PM 2-8-2008


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    02-15-2008 11:09 PM #8
    updated R/P

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    02-18-2008 10:00 PM #9
    updated 1st gear and posted photo of trans code.

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    02-18-2008 10:07 PM #10
    also, i found a mopar r/p set on ebay a while back. bought it for a whopping 10.99 (including shipping) and it turns out to be a 3.70 --- 74 R/ 20P.
    looks like the same vw R/P but i have yet to examine to make sure.

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