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    1. Geriatric Member GS Audio's Avatar
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      05-07-2008 12:49 PM #176
      Quote, originally posted by Sandalman »

      But it is the one option that actually works within the rules of the league. If you broke the team up and put everyone on the wire, the "draft" would essentially consist of teams using their waiver priority to take the best available player. I've been holding onto my number 1 priority all season waiting for the right player to come along, and lo and behold it's Jose Reyes.

      Teams should not be rewarded for crappy drafts and poor management. Team Victory took a closer in the 3rd round - of course he's in last place. I waited forever to take a closer, and I'm 2nd in saves.

      I don't want to make this discussion an argument or anything like that……….but…….

      This was my first draft.
      I got stuck (yes, I still feel I was cursed by this) with the #1 pick.

      I'm sure I made plenty of wacky choices, but at the time of the pick, as well as with what I saw available and how other players were being snatched up, I did what I thought was best. Learn from the mistakes I guess…..

      So just because I took a closer in the 3rd round (21st pick), that means I deserve to be in last?

      After the 1st pick, I had crappy picks……plain and simple. Would I change my strategy for next year, absolutely. But for now, I don't see why my last place team that has not had ANY shot of getting even into 8th place would be a threat to anyone with getting first dibs at just one of those players.

      I'm willing to bet that even if I got 2 or 3 of them, I'd still be in the bottom 5.


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      05-07-2008 01:03 PM #177
      I may be taking things a little too seriously. There's no money on the line or anything like that. The choice that causes the least disruption to the league is simply to set a lineup with the best possible players and let the team play out its string based on that. That'd be my vote.

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      05-07-2008 01:06 PM #178
      ...like I said though. Its a Rotisserie league. What you have is what you have... Carving up a team that isnt being managed doesnt make a whole lot of sense, when its not a head to head format. All you accomplish with that is giving two or three A+ players to mangers who shouldnt have them. Hell, at the end of the day... I might benefit from this too...but I dont think I should benefit. I still think it is absurd to give a guy in second place the ability to pick up the second best player on someone elses roster.

      We have our rosters, and if they arent performing... pick up FAs for help. Take a look at how many moves Ive made already. There's plenty of value in the FAs available. You just need to take the time to look ...hell...I've turned over half of the guys that got auto drafted for me.

      Anyways... whatever is decided I'll be on board with. I think status quo is best, but it seems the consensus is to carve up his team for talent.

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      05-07-2008 01:58 PM #179
      It seems that leaving the team as is would cause the least grief. For obvious reasons I'd love to get one or 2 guys from that team, but if that will cause others to feel they are not getting a fair deal in this league, I can do without the break up of the inactive team.

      JW…..your call……I think most have commented at this point.


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    5. 05-07-2008 03:03 PM #180
      Does anyone have a good read on what exactly Rotisserie league is? I admit this is the first time I've been in a Rotisserie league and I don't know exactly how the points are being scored.

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      05-07-2008 03:09 PM #181
      A rotisserie league means you draft your players... then every day, you accumulate stats for those players... those number build, and depending on your total you receive points for each category you're leading. So if you had the most RBIs in the league for instance, you'd get a 10....if you had the least you'd get a 1... an so on, for each of the categories.

      A head to head league means each team would play against another team each week... and compete to win the catgories they're scored in. So if I had the most RBIs, I would win that category and get 1 point. ...at the end of the week if you'd won 6 categories against your opponent and lost 3... your record would be 6-3... each subsequent week you'd get a new opponent and your wins and losses would add up.

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    7. 05-07-2008 03:17 PM #182
      Quote, originally posted by beng »
      A rotisserie league means you draft your players... then every day, you accumulate stats for those players... those number build, and depending on your total you receive points for each category you're leading. So if you had the most RBIs in the league for instance, you'd get a 10....if you had the least you'd get a 1... an so on, for each of the categories.

      Got it. I appreciate it. The only leagues I've been in before were head to head so thats why I didn't really get it. Thanks again

      Looks like I need to get that avg up and some freakin wins from Verlander and Cain


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      05-08-2008 02:16 AM #183
      Quote, originally posted by MKII GTI »
      Looks like I need to get that avg up and some freakin wins from Verlander and Cain

      I don't know how much baseball you watch, but you're setting yourself up for failure if you are expecting alot of wins from Cain

      After much thought brought upon by the disappointment in my team, I've got the best idea to solve this inactive team issue. This whole debacle has obviously thrown the entire league, and possibly the universe, for a loop. SO, why don't we all just scrap all of our players and redraft ? (kidding of course ... maybe)

      Seriously though, WTF is up with my offense? I don't know how many times I can look at that HR column and see a 0 or 1 before I drop every one of my players. Prince Fielder is on pace for a whopping 18-19 HRs. Eat some f***ing meat Prince! Fat bastard is giving me the same production as my 10th pick. V-MArt hasn't even hit 1 HR yet and has only 7 R and 10 RBIs. Who really expected Miguel Tejada to be my #1? I'm not a deadbeat owner or anything, but I have given up hope of ever moving up very far in the rankings.


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      05-08-2008 08:39 AM #184
      Yeah pofe……..its odd how some players that are expected to be "automatics" have not done a thing so far.

      Also, its quite fitting with my luck that Arod is on the DL…….damn black cloud over my head!!!


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      05-08-2008 11:41 AM #185
      Im thinking about offering up Fielder in the Seinfeld league. What a ****ty first pick he turned out to be for me so far.
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      05-08-2008 04:56 PM #186
      Quote, originally posted by GS Audio »
      Yeah pofe……..its odd how some players that are expected to be "automatics" have not done a thing so far.

      Seems like there's a lot of that. Look at my first 3 picks: Santana only has 3 wins (Zambrano 10th round has 5), Howard's hitting .160, Teixiera only has 4 HRs - it goes on and on. On some level, you just have to trust that guys with a track record will turn it around.

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      05-08-2008 05:07 PM #187
      Like Cano?
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      05-08-2008 05:41 PM #188
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      Like Cano?

      Beng….tell ya what……trade ya Uggla for Cano……..whataya say?


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      05-08-2008 05:42 PM #189
      I dont think I have Cano in this league... or I might actually think about that.
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      05-09-2008 12:40 AM #190
      Quote, originally posted by Sandalman »

      Seems like there's a lot of that. Look at my first 3 picks: Santana only has 3 wins (Zambrano 10th round has 5), Howard's hitting .160, Teixiera only has 4 HRs - it goes on and on. On some level, you just have to trust that guys with a track record will turn it around.

      There does seem to be a lot of that, and in reverse it seems like there are A LOT of players playing over their heads for what has become an extended period of time. Take for example the entire Pirates lineup, not to mention the A's. Pat Burrell hitting over .300?? Cliff Lee 0.81 ERA?? Livan Hernandez, seriously?? I have a feeling things will change soon enough, but some of this lasting this long is mind boggling.


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      05-09-2008 01:23 PM #191
      I hope they dont change! You mentioned the Pirates (Nady & McLouth), Burrell, and Cliff Lee... every one of those blue plate specials plays on at least one (or both) of my fantasy teams.
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      05-09-2008 03:31 PM #192
      Quote, originally posted by beng »
      I hope they dont change! You mentioned the Pirates (Nady & McLouth), Burrell, and Cliff Lee... every one of those blue plate specials plays on at least one (or both) of my fantasy teams.

      Haha! Sorry it is at your expense, but something has to give here before I lose my mind.

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      05-09-2008 08:36 PM #193
      In another league a kid offered me Victor Martinez for Giovani Soto. Would you guys do it??

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      05-10-2008 02:08 AM #194
      I'm so ashamed of my offense. 2 runs, 0 HRs and 1 RBI? Everyone is entitled to an off day, but it seems like every time I look at the box score it is this same line.

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      05-10-2008 02:26 PM #195
      Quote, originally posted by pofe333 »
      I'm so ashamed of my offense. 2 runs, 0 HRs and 1 RBI? Everyone is entitled to an off day, but it seems like every time I look at the box score it is this same line.

      Same here. I'm constantly in the .200s in batting average.


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      05-12-2008 11:04 AM #196
      My offense is getting better but my defense is getting worse. This league doenst have a whole lot of pitching available either.
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      05-12-2008 11:29 AM #197
      Wow…..I broke the 31 point barrier……
      here's to 2009.

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    23. 05-12-2008 04:26 PM #198
      Quick question... Does a player have to play the position I have him in the lineup for that day to earn his points? For example I guess Hinske is going to be playing in the OF from now on but I have him in the 1B slot still. Will his points count?

      TIA


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      05-12-2008 04:30 PM #199
      As long as a player isnt on the bench... the stats will count.
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      05-14-2008 10:36 AM #200
      Trade proposal sent to GS.

      ... I need a pitcher. Let me know what you think.

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      05-14-2008 10:55 AM #201
      Geez Beng….its bad enough I'm in last place, now you want one of my better pitchers too……lol…….

      Ugglas has come around finally, so I don't need a second baseman anymore…….and I need Maine's W's and ERA too much to let him go.

      Let me see if I can propose something and you let me know if that works for you…..


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      05-14-2008 11:15 AM #202
      I'm all ears
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      05-14-2008 11:30 AM #203
      Well…….I like Chipper, Wagner, and Ramirez. I'd be willing to let go of Garland or Sanchez as far as starting pitching.

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      05-14-2008 11:35 AM #204
      So you like my best closer and my two best offensive players for 2 middle of the road pitchers?

      You have any bridges you're selling?

      Cano, Reynolds, Lowell, and Abreu are all on the block... as is Rauch.... I need a good starter.

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      05-14-2008 11:39 AM #205

      Uhm…..I can get you a great deal on the Verrazano if interested……

      Forget the closer……..I do need a better bat though. How about I borrow Chipper till Arod comes off the DL?

      Only 2 pitchers I can let go are Sanchez and Garland. If you think up another deal, shoot it over…..I'm always willing to hear a deal out.


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      05-14-2008 11:42 AM #206
      Ok... I'll see.
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      05-20-2008 09:46 AM #207
      Ok....since I have no shot at getting any points for saves, does anyone want to trade me a 1B or OF for JJ Putz?

      I'm also willing to let go of Griffey Jr.


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      05-20-2008 11:42 AM #208
      Are you interested in Mike Jacobs?
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      05-20-2008 12:02 PM #209
      Not sure I want him.

      I am having a meeting with my GM this afternoon. I'll be back with answers and offers after 2:30


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      05-20-2008 01:47 PM #210
      I'd part with Abreu of Damon if you wanted either one.
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