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    hi, i have a 1,8t, 6speed 02m gearbox and 240mm clutch.

    i like to get a new flywheel and clutch, but i dont like it to have chatter like some say the single mass flywheel will make it to do.

    in the future my plan is to go with something like the gt2860rs turbo or similar.

    can you recommend a setup?

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    What set/kit do you recomend for a cheapskate with a 2002 mkiv jetta with a 1.8t and 5 speed, who might in the future get a frankenturbo putting out near to 300ish ft/lbs to the wheels?

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    i my vr6 clucth kit it's been holding strong 330whp for 2 years! It's hard to beat the value of this clutch
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    05-22-2012 08:05 AM #221
    02M 6-speed in my TT, puts down mid 200's right now to the wheels and almost 300tq.

    I already have a fidanza aluminum lwfw (chatters like a mofo but i like the revs), the spec 2 clutch i have is slipping, making noise... and did i mention me throw out bearing is almost completely worn? (ie i need this kit asap!)

    I plan on doing some rods and maybe getting more like 300-400awhp in the future, so i want something that will handle that, but be nice to drive still.

    i want something sprung, something that can handle launches. I have a wot box and do 5500rpm launches, i also do autox.

    prefer not to spend more then 700. more towards 500 would be nice. if possible.

    what would you recommend?
    clutchnet stage 2x? kevlar? fiber carbon? 6 puck or disc? so many options!

    would this one be overkill? it's a 6-puck so it'll rev nicer from the decreased weight correct?
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    can that clutch disc be swapped out? i see the discs range from about 150-225, so doing the math i should be looking at around 600-625 for what i want.
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    05-23-2012 11:53 AM #222
    I prefer the organic sprung hub disc for daily driven and road coarse street cars.
    Make sure you change the friction surface on your alloy flywheel.

    As for 5500 rpm launches a 4 or 6 puck would be better, however these wear much faster and have a more harsh engagement.

    Clutchnet stage 2
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    05-23-2012 12:37 PM #223
    yeah i was told about the friction surface. do i just get it machined or should i just get a completely new surface? (i see some of them are 2 piece replaceable surfaces)

    the 2 you posted only handle 400 at the flywheel, i plan on exceeding then. I was looking for 350awhp.

    what's the life expectancy on the 6puck fiber carbon or kevlar? less then 60k you think?

    which is a smoother transition. i would think fiber carbon, seems like a softer compound.

    do you guys do package deals for people that want a big order? i was thinking about doing rods, rings, valve cover seal, rear main seal, and the necessary hardware as well.

    so this clutch after what i'm reading seems like it'll fit my needs...?
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    instead of the 6-pick disc on that, would it be better to swap in this disc? (handle the power as well and last longer? Once again, fiber carbon or kevlar?
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    what about a full hub stg 3 disc?
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    05-25-2012 12:19 PM #224
    Hard to state the longevity clutch. Most clutch companies don't offer a warranty on race parts. Solid hubs discs can be provided at no additional cost.

    The 500-700 budget you have will not provide you a stage 3 that uses sachs sport pressure plate (more suited for your power levels). IMO the stage 2 kits with 4 or 6 puck will not last and puck type disc should be inspected every season or more.

    For you set up I would consider stage 3. For example south bend/dxd uses a sachs race engineered pressure plate, this is far different than the stage 2 pressure plates. These kits raise the torque levels another 70-100 above the stage 2 kits.

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    05-26-2012 11:14 AM #225
    hm, that's strange, i thought clutchnets red pressure plate was there high performance pressure plate.
    http://clutchnet.com/clutches?page=s...v.v2.tpl&pop=0


    can you guys get the yellow pressure plate? rated at 517 tq
    http://clutchnet.com/clutches?page=s...tegory_id=6513


    alongside this clutch disc; rated to go with the yellow pressure plate
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    i can't see spending $950 ($400 more) for only 470 tq which is only 50tq over the clutchnet stg 2x
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    05-29-2012 09:21 AM #226
    The clutchnet red 2x and the yellow pressure plates are the same. These are stock pressure plates that are modified ( heat treated fingers and larger rivit's). Compare the clutchnet to stage 2 in the southbend / DXD line.

    I would not push a stage 2 pressure plate past the 400-450 flywheel torque that sbc states their max was.For example 350-450 TQ will produce a fair amount of heat so Instead
    of being at the max of the stage 2 kit with a twin composite disc (faster wear) It would be better to use the stage 3 pressure plate and the organic disc as the car is street driven.
    This will hold the torque and the organic disc will have the longest life. Or A stage 3 pressure plate with a 4 or 6 puck design if you launch at 5500.

    The sachs race engineered pressure plate in the stage 3 kits is far different than the modified oem one in any of the stage 2 kits. Thicker friction surface also a higher ductile iron. Thicker reinforced diaphragm and fingers. Larger rivits and overall beefier plate.
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    05-29-2012 07:29 PM #227
    Quote Originally Posted by FourSeasonTuning.com View Post
    The clutchnet red 2x and the yellow pressure plates are the same. These are stock pressure plates that are modified ( heat treated fingers and larger rivit's). Compare the clutchnet to stage 2 in the southbend / DXD line.

    I would not push a stage 2 pressure plate past the 400-450 flywheel torque that sbc states their max was.For example 350-450 TQ will produce a fair amount of heat so Instead
    of being at the max of the stage 2 kit with a twin composite disc (faster wear) It would be better to use the stage 3 pressure plate and the organic disc as the car is street driven.
    This will hold the torque and the organic disc will have the longest life. Or A stage 3 pressure plate with a 4 or 6 puck design if you launch at 5500.

    The sachs race engineered pressure plate in the stage 3 kits is far different than the modified oem one in any of the stage 2 kits. Thicker friction surface also a higher ductile iron. Thicker reinforced diaphragm and fingers. Larger rivits and overall beefier plate.

    the pictures look different on them at least the fingers do (yellow vs red 2x)

    how about the clutchnet red pressure plate? that supposedly handles 600+tq?

    and from what i have read, the fiber carbon pressure plate is good for launches and says it has good life.

    when you say that it has a short life, do you mean it won't last 20k? or what? I don't want the organic because it won't be able to handle the launches, and i don't want the 6-puck because daily driving would be horrendous.

    why is the rating on the yellow 517 tq but it can't handle my power goals of max of 400whp? i'm doubting i'll get that high, maybe 350, gtx28 series and ethanol.
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    05-29-2012 10:37 PM #228
    Clutchnet is not using real 02M images, I am.

    The red 2x or yellow 2x means 2200 pound clamp force these are all single diaphragm just like the OEM pressure plate and the sachs race engineered one.

    Clutchnet Red 2x or Yellow 2x would be very similar torque wise to South Bend DXD.



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    425-450 Fiber carbon/ organic Disc ( twin sided like the OFE from SBC )
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    Also you gave me a HP figure, I need a torque figure from you.

    Can you please call or IM me a tel # and a good time to call. The last two kits are not on the site w/o a FW, however they can be sold for $120.00 additional as these disc's cost more than the organic as listed above.
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    07-02-2012 09:02 PM #229
    well since I wont use ECS, and MJM screwed me the one time I used them, Maybe I will just have to order my clutch through 4seasons.

    What would u recommend for stg 2 chipped car stock turbo? I was thinking the $320 kit with single mass fw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimjimmn View Post
    well since I wont use ECS, and MJM screwed me the one time I used them, Maybe I will just have to order my clutch through 4seasons.

    What would u recommend for stg 2 chipped car stock turbo? I was thinking the $320 kit with single mass fw.
    i have been running the standard vr6 clutch kit ur talking about since 2010 on the big turbo. it's an awesome kit, feels great and still hasn't slipped once yet to this day. i beat on it a lot too
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    well I drive like a granny most of the time. so I think it will do good.

    I had the same kit on my old mk3 2.0 T with a o2a conversion and 14psi t3 .60 no problems and I beat on that pretty good.
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    Sachs VR6 kit with cast single mass flywheel $324.95 shipped with alignment tool.

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    Sachs kit to go with with a solid fidanza flywheel? 1.8t stage 1ish... Don't plan on going any further?
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    Sachs kit to go with with a solid fidanza flywheel? 1.8t stage 1ish... Don't plan on going any further?
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    08-03-2012 12:17 PM #236
    The stock Sachs kit has a un-sprung disc for the oem dual mass flywheel, it will still work with a single mass flywheel.
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    South Bend stage 2 daily ( sprung hub organic disc for single mass flywheel)
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    Sachs VR6 kit with cast single mass flywheel $324.95 shipped with alignment tool.

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    anywho, do the rear main seal kits you sell come with the lame oem paper style sealing lip or are they they rubber style with oil control spring?
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