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    Thread: Best Short shifter for '02 1.8T...

    1. 05-26-2002 11:50 PM #1
      .....I have already used the search fuction and I read that most of them don't work on '02s...Is it true?
      What's a good SS that works good and don't give any problems?

    2. 05-27-2002 01:26 AM #2
      I ordered a TT shifter from ECS, and at $39.50, it can't be beat

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      05-27-2002 01:32 AM #3
      Keep lookin' around......

      You can get:

      Neuspeed
      B+M
      Dieselgeek
      and TT part
      (....but there are probably more than just this)

      short shift kits, and they all work.

      I have the Dieselgeek, it reduces front to back and side to side more than most of the others that are available. It costs $99 if you send your stock part back, $159 if you don't. I'm also going to cut-down the stock shift stick,....this will further reduce the throw.
      Do a search for Dieselgeek or SS.....there is alot of info on this subject out there.


    4. 05-27-2002 01:57 AM #4
      i really like the neuspeed one. reduces throw much more than others. pricey

    5. 05-27-2002 03:13 AM #5
      Diesel Geek and TT SS are the same?

    6. 05-27-2002 03:18 AM #6
      I'm thinking about getting a short shifter, as well. Is there any reason not to do this, any downside? Also, will I need to get a new shift knob and/or boot. Finally, is this the kind of thing that pretty much any decent mechanic can do?

    7. 05-27-2002 05:58 AM #7
      I got the diesel geek ss and I love it, especially the side to side which is not offered by other companies, at least to my knowledge. It is easy to install too, I did it and have issues programming my vcr, so I'm sure you could too.

    8. 05-27-2002 06:15 AM #8
      quote:
      Diesel Geek and TT SS are the same?

      No, the dieselgeek is made form an OEM VW shift linkage that is welded to make the 'short' shifter. Who knows you might be buying my old one.

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      I'm thinking about getting a short shifter, as well. Is there any reason not to do this, any downside? Also, will I need to get a new shift knob and/or boot. Finally, is this the kind of thing that pretty much any decent mechanic can do?


      No there is ablsolutely no reason not to get this. It totally kicks ass. The dieselgeek feels like how the shifter should have been made in the first place. And no, this is not something you get a mechanic to do. This is a DIY mod.

    9. 05-27-2002 11:27 AM #9
      I got the diesel geek and its bad ass and to boot he installed it on the spot at the Bug-in in dallas.

    10. 05-27-2002 12:36 PM #10
      I am using a Neuspeed SS, although it reduce throw, but I just don't really like the feeling, I'm thinking of going back to original!

    11. 05-27-2002 04:22 PM #11
      dieselgeek feels great.... ive felt the neuspeed and it doesnt feel as stock as mines does... its a little more rough.... and the side to side reduction will be well worth it

    12. 05-27-2002 05:18 PM #12
      You can also try the Concept-1 shifter. It has 3 settings, stock, 40% and 20%. I compared the 20% setting to the TT shifter and it's a bit shorter than the TT one.

      When I had it on the shortest setting (40%), it was very short but too notchy for my liking so I put it at the middle setting (20%) and it's a very good compromise between short and easy.

      BTW, I measured the distance from the spline hole to the ball and I got a reduction of: 18% for TT, 25% for Concept-1 20% setting and 46% for Concept-1 40% setting.

      I highly recommend Concept-1.


    13. 05-27-2002 09:31 PM #13
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      You can also try the Concept-1 shifter. It has 3 settings, stock, 40% and 20%. I compared the 20% setting to the TT shifter and it's a bit shorter than the TT one.

      When I had it on the shortest setting (40%), it was very short but too notchy for my liking so I put it at the middle setting (20%) and it's a very good compromise between short and easy.

      BTW, I measured the distance from the spline hole to the ball and I got a reduction of: 18% for TT, 25% for Concept-1 20% setting and 46% for Concept-1 40% setting.

      I highly recommend Concept-1.


      where do you get the concept-1? how much?


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      05-27-2002 09:35 PM #14
      I've got the $40 TT unit in my car that I bought from ECS Tuning ... they installed it while my tranny was out for the clutch/flywheel/Quaife installation...

      I'm VERY happy with it... at times it feels a bit notchy, like my old TT225 did... but once you get past that feeling, its great... I'd rate it as being worth $40 for sure.. at the same time, the $100+ units like B&M are nicer, without a dobut, but more than I wanted to spend... g'luck!

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      05-28-2002 11:36 AM #15
      I also recommend the Concept 1 shifter. Its what I'm running. http://www.c1vw.com Interestingly enough there are people in town who say that their 40% is actually smoother than their 20%. I think its the nature of our adjustable linkages and getting it just right.

    16. 05-28-2002 01:25 PM #16
      quote:
      Diesel Geek and TT SS are the same?

      No, the dieselgeek is made form an OEM VW shift linkage that is welded to make the 'short' shifter. Who knows you might be buying my old one.

      I'm thinking about getting a short shifter, as well. Is there any reason not to do this, any downside? Also, will I need to get a new shift knob and/or boot. Finally, is this the kind of thing that pretty much any decent mechanic can do?

      No there is ablsolutely no reason not to get this. It totally kicks ass. The dieselgeek feels like how the shifter should have been made in the first place. And no, this is not something you get a mechanic to do. This is a DIY mod.


      so its $99 if you send your old one back in and that includes the side to side reduction? i looked on the site here: http://www.dieselgeek.com/A4NB_SS.htm and saw the $99 one but then a little further down you see a side to side for $50? is this in addition to the $99 one or is it included already? thanks


    17. 07-03-2002 01:16 AM #17
      I'm considering doing B&M together with TT SS. Anyone has this combo, and how does it feel?

    18. 07-03-2002 03:43 AM #18
      Any more people with Dieselgeek SS's? Wondering how they feel. Smooth, notchy?

    19. 07-03-2002 08:42 AM #19
      B&M and TT shift lever feels great.

    20. 07-03-2002 09:08 AM #20
      ok so i know there's a short throw lever for the 2002 gti's , but is there also a short stick for it?? mine kinda feels like a arm rest! too tall! if so please give me a web site.

    21. 07-03-2002 09:42 AM #21
      It is 99$ for both, the 50$ is if you just want the side to side (i.e. you bought someone elses shifter). I picked mine up from DG a few weeks ago and I love it, well worth the money. The shifts are much more solid an the mushyness is gone. It feel like it should from the factoy, to like some over-shortened after market part.

      Get the DG and you will love it.


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      07-03-2002 10:06 AM #22
      I've been wanting to get a SS for my car for quite some time. I've read many posts and I'm convinced the Dieselgeek is the way to go. If 5 people will order together, we can get 15% off. Let me know if you would be interested in doing this! email me at kevmaughan@hotmail.com

      I only need 4 more people and we can mix and match kits so don't worry about the year of your car!


    23. 07-03-2002 01:40 PM #23
      I'm going to be picking up a UUC short shifter. Drove an M3 with one and was quite impressed.

    24. 07-03-2002 01:46 PM #24
      quote:
      I am using a Neuspeed SS, although it reduce throw, but I just don't really like the feeling, I'm thinking of going back to original!

      Why don't you like it? Please, share your feelings with the group.


    25. 07-03-2002 01:55 PM #25
      I've had the dieselgeek for a while. Like others have said, it feels like this is how it should have come from the factory. It's excellent once you get used to it.

    26. 07-03-2002 07:21 PM #26

      i thought UUC only made products for BMW and Audi???

    27. 07-03-2002 09:17 PM #27
      quote:

      I have the Dieselgeek


      i also have one... and its been great!!

      but recently... i adjusted the shift linkage.. and now when i shift hard/fast my shift gets stuck in 2nd and 4th. i tried adjusting it back but my shift still get stuck.

      wonder if this has happen to u or anyone else and how ot fix it


    28. 07-03-2002 09:30 PM #28

      right now i am trying to decide between the tt oem unit and the dieselgeek. i've tried the DG and it feels great. but i would like to try the tt one as well. since i will be cutting down the shifter stalk, i don't want it to be too short, if i combine it with the DG, that and the tt is much cheaper, $100 vs $38.

    29. 07-03-2002 09:58 PM #29
      Will the b&m work in an 02'???

    30. 07-03-2002 10:04 PM #30
      i just ordered the new race ss from DG. i hope it's just as good, or even better as far as the shifting goes as the origonal DG. i'll keep ya posted. in the meantime, what are my options as far as a short stick for the o2 gti's that will be able to use the oem knob? i have found one on freedom design, but are there any more?

    31. 07-03-2002 10:04 PM #31

      it should. unless vw has changed the shifter stalk on us.

    32. 07-03-2002 10:07 PM #32
      quote:

      i thought UUC only made products for BMW and Audi???

      They do, however for example with my car, the Audi TT shifter that is currently in development will fit perfectly. I'm guessing for all those folks with TT shifters, that it will work for them as well. I know it works in the NB though, I've already been discussing it with them.


    33. 07-03-2002 10:32 PM #33

      so when does this UUC kit come out???

    34. 07-03-2002 11:18 PM #34
      "Soon" is all I can get out of UUC, give them a call, the more people asking about the TT kit the faster it will come out most likely

    35. 07-04-2002 04:01 AM #35
      I just installed the TT shifter yesterday. Feels sooooooo much better then stock... I don't hit my passenger's knees shifting into 5th anymore! For $28.92 it was well worth it.

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