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    1. Member Lanceevox's Avatar
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      04-07-2008 10:05 PM #1
      I searched for starting issues but want some more advice:

      This morning my car started up perfectly but later in the day when I went to turn the key it didn't crank and just made a buzzing sound... I tried again and it started up perfectly... Can someone enlighten me on what this buzzing sound is? This problem is intermittent so I want to fix it before I get stuck somewhere. It is a 2.8 dizzy with a vf stg II supercharger.


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      04-07-2008 11:28 PM #2
      bump

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      04-07-2008 11:39 PM #3
      probably your starter going out.

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      04-07-2008 11:43 PM #4
      not the ignition switch?

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      04-08-2008 01:04 AM #5
      well you say it makes a sound.. Which I assume is the starter just spinning, and not engaging the flywheel.

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      04-08-2008 12:51 PM #6
      That sounds like it makes sense. It is a buzzing sound that does not turn off until I turn the key back.


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    7. 04-08-2008 03:22 PM #7
      I've had the intermittant starting issue for the past several weeks. Tha only time Mine's ever buzzed is when the battery is too dead to provide enough power to start.

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      04-08-2008 03:49 PM #8
      my battery is about a year old. It is a $100 NAPA battery.. Could it go bad that quick? is it likely?


      >I tried starting it today and it just buzzed again. But then after 3 tries it started but felt like it was running on only a couple cylinders.. I turned it off and tried again and it started up and ran better. Should I try recharging the batter with a charger and try again? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


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      04-08-2008 09:07 PM #9
      Well the car will not start at all now. I am hoping it is the battery because that seems like the easiest fix. Even though I replaced it about a year ago..

      -any more insight?


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      04-08-2008 10:23 PM #10
      Still have power to all the accessories when the key is on? If it seems dim, try jumping it, the battery would then be the most likely cause.. Otherwise, I'd say starter or ignition coil.

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      04-08-2008 10:43 PM #11
      Sounds like an ignition switch to me, not too bad to replace though. To make sure jump the switch, if it starts its the switch if not its something else

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      04-08-2008 10:47 PM #12
      i had the exact same problem about 6 months ago. a new coil fixed mine.

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      04-08-2008 11:26 PM #13
      ok, so I think I am going to take my friends battery out of his car and drop it into mine. If it starts up and runs properly would that eliminate the ignition coil, ignition switch, and the starter as a problem? I guess the only other thing it could be after that is the alternator...

      btw- when I turn the key its not really a buzzzing sound it is more of a low beep. The interior lights work but the car wont crank what so ever..


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      04-09-2008 12:13 AM #14
      ok, so I think I am going to take my friends battery out of his car and drop it into mine. If it starts up and runs properly would that conclude that it is not the ignition coil, ignition switch, and the starter that is the problem?

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      04-09-2008 12:19 AM #15
      are you interior lights dim currently? or do they seem to be normal? if they seem a bit dim, its most likely your battery.

      i've had this problem in the past. my battery got to the point where it was so low, it wouldn't crank at all.


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      04-09-2008 01:09 AM #16
      The interior lights and headlights seem to be normal and not dimmed. The lights do dim when the car is shut off and the engine is not running but that seems normal.

      hmm. I went to go out and start it tonight and it first did not start at all (made a beeping/buzzing sound) but then the second try it started... It preceded to start up the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th time.... earlier today I tried over 10 times to start it and it just gave me a buzzing sound. I am starting to think it is not the battery at all..


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      04-09-2008 01:17 AM #17
      yeah, that doesn't sound like its a battery problem, unless it had time to recharge a bit. i'm banking on starter or ignition coil.

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      04-09-2008 01:24 AM #18
      mabey I should go coil seeing it looks like it has never been replaced and it is easier to replace... I hate replacing parts without testing them, that why I have never done it but right now I just want the problem fixed. I think I am going to still try using my friends battery just for the hell of it.

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      04-09-2008 06:43 PM #19
      I took the corrado to a local garage today because it actually started pretty consistently. The guy that owns the garage used to race a stripped out caged corrado so I thought he might know something about it. I started it up for him and he said the battery sounded strong and he thought it was probably the ignition switch. He didn't have time to test anything because the shop was super busy (I just dropped in). It sounded like a guess but he seemed pretty sure it was the ignition switch... Right as I was going to leave I tried starting the car and it just made a beeping sound once again when I turned the key over . However on the fifth try the car started and I left...

      Here is the shop I went to and some pictures of his corrado + some other vw's on the track.

      http://247-parts.com/racingteam.html


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      04-10-2008 01:24 AM #20
      how hard is it to replace a ignition switch.

    21. 04-10-2008 08:20 AM #21
      Quote, originally posted by Lanceevox »
      how hard is it to replace a ignition switch.

      http://www.corrado-club.ca/for...=8617


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      04-17-2008 01:57 AM #22
      -THANKS for that link!

      Well I am still waiting for my ignition switch in the mail but I tested out my battery and it seems like it is not the battery. I even tried putting my friends GOOD battery in the corrado and it still would not start. So I am pretty sure its not the alternator or the battery.

      -I am almost positive it is the ignition switch because I hear a buzzing coming from that exact area, unless the sound is just coming through the firewall.


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      04-18-2008 09:57 PM #23
      Well I replaced the ignition switch today and.... It starts up every time so far!!! I think I might buy a spare just in case for the future.

      >One question, what is the metal plate the rests in the bottom of the steering column surround? Is it necessary?

      Thanks for the help guys!


    24. 04-19-2008 04:57 PM #24
      A buzzing sound? Well electrical noises when starting are a specialty in themselves. If it was plain buzzing and it was closeby, its probably the ignition switch. If the buzzing is in the engine bay, its likely to be the starter engagement relay (the one just above the starter). Its not likely to be caused by the starter spinning on its own unless its bearings are wrecked as well. A third possibility is the starter relay thats plugged into the fuse/relay housing.

      If its the ignition switch there's a simple tell tale:
      - is there an unusual pause ( a second or more than you expect) before the starter kicks in? If so, change the switch.
      - if there isnt a pause and it sounds like someone is playing some very small drumsticks - and very well - its the relay in the fusebox area.


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      04-19-2008 05:21 PM #25
      Quote, originally posted by BGomes »
      A buzzing sound? Well electrical noises when starting are a specialty in themselves. If it was plain buzzing and it was closeby, its probably the ignition switch. If the buzzing is in the engine bay, its likely to be the starter engagement relay (the one just above the starter). Its not likely to be caused by the starter spinning on its own unless its bearings are wrecked as well. A third possibility is the starter relay thats plugged into the fuse/relay housing.

      If its the ignition switch there's a simple tell tale:
      - is there an unusual pause ( a second or more than you expect) before the starter kicks in? If so, change the switch.
      - if there isnt a pause and it sounds like someone is playing some very small drumsticks - and very well - its the relay in the fusebox area.

      Well I replaced the ignition switch and it has been starting up every time since. I am hoping it continues to do so.

      ->Have you ever replaced an ignition switch? I ask because when I put in the new one and had to tighten the screw into the new one it didn't really want to screw in and only turned into the hole one or two rotations. Is this ok? It seems like the plug secures the switch in anyways.


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