The palce is f***ed up if you are learning to drive standard.
Dont tell me your just learning how to drive standard.
No way.. When I started learning to drive standard 10 years ago my friends made me drive there to learn how to balance on a hill and that hill made me sweat because there was a car behind when the light was red, at least that wasn't my car that I was driving (ever seen a car stage on a steep hill with lot of smoke???). That hill is super easy now. The only problem I had when I had my Jetta is when I'm driving up I would be scraping all the way up to the top of the hill when I had a touring front....
[Modified by V-DUBZ, 12:31 AM 6-17-2002]