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      02-03-2016 05:20 PM #5951
      The tune doesn't make the psi, ha. The pulley sizing and intercooler / piping length is what dictates that.

      Um just says that their tuning is supported to X number. Doesn't mean you'll make that.

      Also the gearing on the straight cut is 3.45 as oposed to 3.6:1. So it will make the same boost sooner. Not really more psi rather, sooner

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      02-03-2016 05:24 PM #5952
      Quote Originally Posted by BOUDAH View Post
      The tune doesn't make the psi, ha. The pulley sizing and intercooler / piping length is what dictates that.

      Um just says that their tuning is supported to X number. Doesn't mean you'll make that.

      Also the gearing on the straight cut is 3.45 as oposed to 3.6:1. So it will make the same boost sooner. Not really more psi rather, sooner

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      I know that they gave me a range the tune would be good for. I have couple different sets of pullies I'm going to play with. But the 22 tooth should get me there.

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      02-03-2016 05:32 PM #5953
      I will hopefully be able to contribute more to this thread soon. By the end of this month I'll hopefully have this all running on my 12v mk3:

      V1 is getting sent in for a full rebuild
      14psi cog kit
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      New intake setup and MAF routed to driver side of vehicle

      As of right now, I've had my AMS kit running flawlessly the past 7 months at 5psi (at elevation in Denver). It's been a DD all around town, driven up to the mountains and back no problems. It's quite slow but I've had no serious issues yet with the way it runs, which has been nice considering the age of the kit.

      Check out my build thread on the car here if you're interested. Can't wait to report back with the results. Many pics and videos will be had since people seem to not be good about those with these types of builds.

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      02-07-2016 11:57 AM #5954
      I have an OBD1 95 EA code VR6 that I have a prototype Vortech V5 H-trim I'm putting on. I have a C2 36# supercharger chip and supposedly it supports up to 350hp with just the addition of 36# injectors and a 4" Maf housing. I plan on running somewhere between 11-15psi and was wondering if it is also necessary to upgrade the fuel pump?
      I do ported/modified VR6 and 2.0 throttle bodies, mirror polish and port intake manifolds. PM me for details.

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      02-11-2016 05:39 PM #5955
      def upgrade. whether it be inline or a upgraded in tank pump

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      02-15-2016 12:40 PM #5956
      Tap the block or tap the oil pan for the return? There seems to be pros & cons to both.

      I've searched the thread, with minimal results

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      02-15-2016 02:18 PM #5957
      Quote Originally Posted by GRN6IX View Post
      Tap the block or tap the oil pan for the return? There seems to be pros & cons to both.

      I've searched the thread, with minimal results
      Tapping the block is just dumb. I would tap the pan 100% - easier to replace/plug in the future...I did mine in the back of the pan.


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      02-15-2016 08:39 PM #5958
      Anyone else? VF recommends tapping the block, in the front. Obviously I'd like to make a modification that could be reversed though.

    9. 02-16-2016 02:57 AM #5959
      Quote Originally Posted by GRN6IX View Post
      Anyone else? VF recommends tapping the block, in the front. Obviously I'd like to make a modification that could be reversed though.
      tap/weld bung onto the pan and be done with it. i have done plenty this way an no bus full of nuns have had issues. hell send me your pan and ill take care of it!

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      02-16-2016 10:02 AM #5960
      Quote Originally Posted by Peetah05 View Post
      Tapping the block is just dumb. I would tap the pan 100% - easier to replace/plug in the future...I did mine in the back of the pan.

      Just be sure to tap it higher then this. Ideally you want the returned oil to be free flowing and unobstructed so above the oil level line is preferred. If the flow isn't adequate it'll back up in the charger and cause windage and at worst leaking seals.

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      02-16-2016 10:43 AM #5961
      Quote Originally Posted by GRN6IX View Post
      Anyone else? VF recommends tapping the block, in the front. Obviously I'd like to make a modification that could be reversed though.
      What VTOE said. Tap the pan and have your line as unobstructed as possible or it will backup. Seen it too many times

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      02-16-2016 10:48 AM #5962
      Thanks guys. What size is the drain line coming off the charger? -10AN? I have a guy locally that can get it welded up for me.

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      02-16-2016 10:52 AM #5963
      Vf. If a V9 F/G. Was a 3/8 NPT get an An adapter for -10 an.

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      02-18-2016 11:34 AM #5964
      Thinking of getting one of these:

      http://vr6parts.com/onlinestore/inde...ilhousing.html

      Any thoughts, experience? I like the idea of sending filtered oil to the charger.

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      02-18-2016 11:42 AM #5965
      Quote Originally Posted by GRN6IX View Post
      Thinking of getting one of these:

      http://vr6parts.com/onlinestore/inde...ilhousing.html

      Any thoughts, experience? I like the idea of sending filtered oil to the charger.
      Ive got it on my VR6... its a nice unit... kinda wish the thread at the top were a lil more spread out so fittings can be installed easier. But with the right fittings it works and cleans things up.



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      02-18-2016 12:01 PM #5966
      Quote Originally Posted by hiatussk8rs View Post
      kinda wish the thread at the top were a lil more spread out so fittings can be installed easier. But with the right fittings it works and cleans things up.
      Adding temp & pressure senders/gauges, so I hope they fit on there. I've gone with Newsouth for both, which supposedly have smaller senders. I guess we'll see. I have a 42 Draft oil relocation adapter coming, but it looks like I may not need it if I get this thing.

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      02-18-2016 12:20 PM #5967
      Quote Originally Posted by GRN6IX View Post
      Adding temp & pressure senders/gauges, so I hope they fit on there. I've gone with Newsouth for both, which supposedly have smaller senders. I guess we'll see. I have a 42 Draft oil relocation adapter coming, but it looks like I may not need it if I get this thing.
      The oem oil pressure sender is what makes things tight. For my oil pressure gauge i had to get a 45 degree fitting to make things fit and clear.

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      02-19-2016 07:47 AM #5968
      Ordering my billet impeller today. Is the V9 G-trim a clockwise or counter clockwise unit? I didn't realize there was a difference...

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      02-19-2016 09:58 AM #5969
      All the vortech kits available for VW's are CCW.

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      02-19-2016 10:46 AM #5970
      Anyone have any experience with the billet impellers?

      Since the blower I'm buying needs an impeller (current one is damaged) it looks like a good option. I've been speaking with Jon at Jon Bond Performance (where I'm sending the blower for rebuild) & he's concerned about Todd's (superchargerrebuilds.com) offering since there's really no info provided as to it's construction, whether or not it's balanced, how much it weighs, etc. I can't find any info about it online or otherwise either. Odd.

      There's also 928 Motorsports, but they don't have a billet impeller for the V9, just V1 & V2 (I assume they're not the same), but their impellers get rave reviews, and they're patented.

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      02-19-2016 06:59 PM #5971
      Quote Originally Posted by GRN6IX View Post
      Anyone have any experience with the billet impellers?

      Since the blower I'm buying needs an impeller (current one is damaged) it looks like a good option. I've been speaking with Jon at Jon Bond Performance (where I'm sending the blower for rebuild) & he's concerned about Todd's (superchargerrebuilds.com) offering since there's really no info provided as to it's construction, whether or not it's balanced, how much it weighs, etc. I can't find any info about it online or otherwise either. Odd.

      There's also 928 Motorsports, but they don't have a billet impeller for the V9, just V1 & V2 (I assume they're not the same), but their impellers get rave reviews, and they're patented.
      If you go with the billet impeller, you need to have the volute machined to match. I sent my V9 into 928 to have them look at the stock impeller and said they could not offer a more efficient one since it was designed more recently already. The v1 and v2 are older units and the impellers are not the same dimensions. I too looked into the billet impeller but no data that I could find except an R32 guy in the uk that replaced a damaged impeller with a billet one. He had the volute machined to match and then something happened to the charger and the discussion pretty much stopped. Maybe he came back but I stopped following.

      Good luck.

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      02-19-2016 08:05 PM #5972
      My cogs arrived! Many props to Michael at Supercharger Innovations. The quality of this product at first glance is amazing, can't wait to put these in soon to really see what they're made of. You can follow the progress next week here: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...nster-DD/page4


      The kit includes:

      Cogged crank pulley
      Cogged alternator pulley
      Cogged supercharger pulley (you choose what size/psi - I went with the 14-16psi 28T pulley)
      Smoothed AC pulley
      Upper idler pulley
      Cog belt
      All necessary hardware

      The only extra thing I bought (pictured here( is the smoothed power steering pulley. He offers idlers/brackets for anyone not running AC and/or PS as well. I almost pulled the trigger on his fluidampr cogged crank pulley but didn't want to fork over the $600 or so for it. The nice thing is, I can always upgrade to that in the future. Ok, onto the pictures now.






      This supercharger pulley is definitely NOT going to slip anymore




      Supercharger comes off next week to get rebuilt, which is when I'll be throwing these on - progress photos to follow on that.

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      02-19-2016 08:07 PM #5973
      Quote Originally Posted by 92jetta9a View Post
      If you go with the billet impeller, you need to have the volute machined to match. I sent my V9 into 928 to have them look at the stock impeller and said they could not offer a more efficient one since it was designed more recently already. The v1 and v2 are older units and the impellers are not the same dimensions. I too looked into the billet impeller but no data that I could find except an R32 guy in the uk that replaced a damaged impeller with a billet one. He had the volute machined to match and then something happened to the charger and the discussion pretty much stopped. Maybe he came back but I stopped following.

      Good luck.
      Supercharger rebuilds has one specifically for the V9, no machining necessary.

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      02-19-2016 11:52 PM #5974
      Quote Originally Posted by GRN6IX View Post
      Supercharger rebuilds has one specifically for the V9, no machining necessary.
      True but mine is an F trim and the only billet impeller available is the G trim. The guy as I stated before purchased said G trim and had to have the volute machined to fit properly and maintain efficiency.

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      02-20-2016 06:00 AM #5975
      I (will) have a G-trim blower. I've spoken to Todd at SR, no machining necessary.
      Also, I'll probably get some nay-sayers on this, but I'm going to rebuild the charger myself:

      http://www.starrland.com/supercharge...%202-22-08.pdf <-- searched for a few weeks to find that, not many people rebuilding these on their own.

      I'll be ordering the parts from Todd at SR (59k bearings w/brass cages, ptfe/viton seals). I'm also getting the billet impeller that's been mentioned. Todd did get back to me on that, btw. They are high-speed balanced & weigh around 10-11oz, 5-6oz less than the cast pieces. He doesn't make them & couldn't/wouldn't tell me, but that's not really as important to me as the other factors. I'll be posting a DIY on the rebuild once I get into it.
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