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    Thread: How Hard can it be to build an atom??

    1. 04-15-2008 10:59 PM #1
      look at the $$$
      http://www.arielatom.com/UsedCars.aspx
      what is it that one can build using a miata as base???

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      04-15-2008 11:03 PM #2
      Quote, originally posted by MyBlueR32Turbo »
      what is it that one can build using a miata as base???

      Ginetta G20. Mazda Miata drivetrain, monocoque aluminum body (look ma! No doors!), sub-2000lb weight.

      Also appears to be utterly and totally unobtainable in streetable form in the U.S.

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      04-15-2008 11:05 PM #3
      Quote, originally posted by MyBlueR32Turbo »
      what is it that one can build using a miata as base???

      A Lotus Seven replica

    4. 04-15-2008 11:08 PM #4
      anyone here done one of this??

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    6. 04-15-2008 11:15 PM #6
      Ok... this is something that I often mull around....
      Assuming you had the finacial means.... You have the knowledge needed to build a rigid enough chassis, build a body, assemble the car, etc...
      If you were to either copy the suspension geometry from a similar size vehicle, or just cannibalize the parts... And obviosly pick a drive-line...
      I think I would like to try something like that. Would it be possible for someone with fabrication skills, but no idea about engineering a vehicles suspension, to kinda.... fudge together a decent little sports car?

    7. 04-15-2008 11:22 PM #7
      I think if a couple of us donate some weekends and $ ill donate my miata we can do it
      who wants to sign up

    8. 04-15-2008 11:36 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by Wellington P Funk »
      Ginetta G20. Mazda Miata drivetrain, monocoque aluminum body (look ma! No doors!), sub-2000lb weight.

      Also appears to be utterly and totally unobtainable in streetable form in the U.S.

      There was a place in Seattle called Group 2 Motorsports, I belive they had (have?) a semi-side business of selling Ginettas they assembled, without the drivline. I talked to the owner (back in 2001) and he was saying they were selling them as rolling-chassis kit-cars. So... Perhaps a steetable one can be found in the PNW.

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      04-15-2008 11:41 PM #9
      Quote, originally posted by SebringMGB »
      I think I would like to try something like that. Would it be possible for someone with fabrication skills, but no idea about engineering a vehicles suspension, to kinda.... fudge together a decent little sports car?

      It can be done without an engineering degree, and if you really need help just go to a local university and find a car guy...

    10. 04-15-2008 11:44 PM #10
      I cant trust the students at OSU not with a car

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      04-15-2008 11:58 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by MyBlueR32Turbo »
      I cant trust the students at OSU not with a car

      What do you expect out of Ohio State?

    12. 04-16-2008 12:01 AM #12
      Quote, originally posted by chrisvette49 »
      What do you expect out of Ohio State?

      they are only good at Football and its the wrong type of it

    13. 04-16-2008 12:31 AM #13
      methinks i saw a tv show on speed where they did a shelby cobra replica on a miata chassis.

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      04-16-2008 12:32 AM #14
      Quote, originally posted by MyBlueR32Turbo »
      Title: How Hard can it be to build an atom??
      look at the $$$
      http://www.arielatom.com/UsedCars.aspx

      It used to start in the $30k's, not sure what it is now. It gets much more expensive as you add highend adjustable shocks, metal spherical bushings, highend 3-piece wheels, carbon fiber body parts, turbo, brakes (forgot brand), etc.
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      never thought once to use my lefty for the brake. sorry in my opinion it is dumb.

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      04-16-2008 01:25 AM #15
      $90k for a go cart is ridiculous
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    16. 04-16-2008 01:55 AM #16
      Quote, originally posted by 1.8Tquattro »


      LOL they actually have the right orbital filling orders too. man...

    17. 04-16-2008 02:13 AM #17
      Quote, originally posted by iMpromptu »
      $90k for a go cart is ridiculous

      x2

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      04-16-2008 05:54 AM #18
      building a bunch of atoms would be the bomb!!11!!!

      *crickets*
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      That's what I love about these high school dumb asses. I get older, they stay the same level of dumb ass.

    19. 04-16-2008 07:36 AM #19
      Quote, originally posted by SebringMGB »
      Ok... this is something that I often mull around....
      Assuming you had the finacial means.... You have the knowledge needed to build a rigid enough chassis, build a body, assemble the car, etc...
      If you were to either copy the suspension geometry from a similar size vehicle, or just cannibalize the parts... And obviosly pick a drive-line...
      I think I would like to try something like that. Would it be possible for someone with fabrication skills, but no idea about engineering a vehicles suspension, to kinda.... fudge together a decent little sports car?

      You can learn linkage synthesis and analysis in a week if you have enough of a mathematical background
      In fact, you don't even need to know any math, you can do everything graphically by drawing!
      A Suspension is pretty simple, you want it to keep the tire perpendicular to the roads for any change in height.
      Here is a web version of the book we used in Machine Design for linkage analysis and synthesis
      http://books.google.com/books?...79,M1

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      04-16-2008 07:42 AM #20
      Looks like a car that even the Smart would win against.
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      04-16-2008 07:50 AM #21
      Quote, originally posted by RollingInDubs »
      building a bunch of atoms would be the bomb!!11!!!

      *crickets*

      Sorry, but breaking up an atom would be da bomb.

    22. 04-16-2008 08:14 AM #22
      Quote, originally posted by iMpromptu »
      $90k for a go cart is ridiculous

      I thought the point was that they were cheap.

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      04-16-2008 08:18 AM #23
      Quote, originally posted by SebringMGB »
      There was a place in Seattle called Group 2 Motorsports, I belive they had (have?) a semi-side business of selling Ginettas they assembled, without the drivline. I talked to the owner (back in 2001) and he was saying they were selling them as rolling-chassis kit-cars. So... Perhaps a steetable one can be found in the PNW.

      There's a guy on Ferrarichat who lives in south FL who has a Ginetta. So there's at least one rolling around the country. One of the first things I want to do when I retire is build something like this...
      -R

    24. 04-16-2008 09:15 AM #24
      Buying something on this list would be cheaper than building or buying your own Atom, and less headache than building your own Locost.

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      04-16-2008 09:20 AM #25
      my car has a 01 miata motor. its not as hard to build as one might think!
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