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    1. 04-15-2008 10:59 PM #1
      look at the $$$
      http://www.arielatom.com/UsedCars.aspx

      what is it that one can build using a miata as base???


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      04-15-2008 11:03 PM #2
      Quote, originally posted by MyBlueR32Turbo »

      what is it that one can build using a miata as base???

      Ginetta G20. Mazda Miata drivetrain, monocoque aluminum body (look ma! No doors!), sub-2000lb weight.


      Also appears to be utterly and totally unobtainable in streetable form in the U.S.

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      04-15-2008 11:05 PM #3
      Quote, originally posted by MyBlueR32Turbo »

      what is it that one can build using a miata as base???

      A Lotus Seven replica


    4. 04-15-2008 11:08 PM #4
      anyone here done one of this??

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    6. 04-15-2008 11:15 PM #6
      Ok... this is something that I often mull around....

      Assuming you had the finacial means.... You have the knowledge needed to build a rigid enough chassis, build a body, assemble the car, etc...
      If you were to either copy the suspension geometry from a similar size vehicle, or just cannibalize the parts... And obviosly pick a drive-line...

      I think I would like to try something like that. Would it be possible for someone with fabrication skills, but no idea about engineering a vehicles suspension, to kinda.... fudge together a decent little sports car?


    7. 04-15-2008 11:22 PM #7
      I think if a couple of us donate some weekends and $ ill donate my miata we can do it

      who wants to sign up


    8. 04-15-2008 11:36 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by Wellington P Funk »

      Ginetta G20. Mazda Miata drivetrain, monocoque aluminum body (look ma! No doors!), sub-2000lb weight.


      Also appears to be utterly and totally unobtainable in streetable form in the U.S.

      There was a place in Seattle called Group 2 Motorsports, I belive they had (have?) a semi-side business of selling Ginettas they assembled, without the drivline. I talked to the owner (back in 2001) and he was saying they were selling them as rolling-chassis kit-cars. So... Perhaps a steetable one can be found in the PNW.


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      04-15-2008 11:41 PM #9
      Quote, originally posted by SebringMGB »

      I think I would like to try something like that. Would it be possible for someone with fabrication skills, but no idea about engineering a vehicles suspension, to kinda.... fudge together a decent little sports car?

      It can be done without an engineering degree, and if you really need help just go to a local university and find a car guy...


    10. 04-15-2008 11:44 PM #10
      I cant trust the students at OSU not with a car

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      04-15-2008 11:58 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by MyBlueR32Turbo »
      I cant trust the students at OSU not with a car

      What do you expect out of Ohio State?


    12. 04-16-2008 12:01 AM #12
      Quote, originally posted by chrisvette49 »

      What do you expect out of Ohio State?


      they are only good at Football and its the wrong type of it

    13. 04-16-2008 12:31 AM #13
      methinks i saw a tv show on speed where they did a shelby cobra replica on a miata chassis.

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      04-16-2008 12:32 AM #14
      Quote, originally posted by MyBlueR32Turbo »
      Title: How Hard can it be to build an atom??

      look at the $$$
      http://www.arielatom.com/UsedCars.aspx

      It used to start in the $30k's, not sure what it is now. It gets much more expensive as you add highend adjustable shocks, metal spherical bushings, highend 3-piece wheels, carbon fiber body parts, turbo, brakes (forgot brand), etc.

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      04-16-2008 01:25 AM #15
      $90k for a go cart is ridiculous
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    16. 04-16-2008 01:55 AM #16
      Quote, originally posted by 1.8Tquattro »


      LOL they actually have the right orbital filling orders too. man...


    17. 04-16-2008 02:13 AM #17
      Quote, originally posted by iMpromptu »
      $90k for a go cart is ridiculous

      x2

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      04-16-2008 05:54 AM #18
      building a bunch of atoms would be the bomb!!11!!!


      *crickets*


    19. 04-16-2008 07:36 AM #19
      Quote, originally posted by SebringMGB »
      Ok... this is something that I often mull around....

      Assuming you had the finacial means.... You have the knowledge needed to build a rigid enough chassis, build a body, assemble the car, etc...
      If you were to either copy the suspension geometry from a similar size vehicle, or just cannibalize the parts... And obviosly pick a drive-line...

      I think I would like to try something like that. Would it be possible for someone with fabrication skills, but no idea about engineering a vehicles suspension, to kinda.... fudge together a decent little sports car?

      You can learn linkage synthesis and analysis in a week if you have enough of a mathematical background

      In fact, you don't even need to know any math, you can do everything graphically by drawing!

      A Suspension is pretty simple, you want it to keep the tire perpendicular to the roads for any change in height.

      Here is a web version of the book we used in Machine Design for linkage analysis and synthesis

      http://books.google.com/books?...79,M1


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      04-16-2008 07:42 AM #20
      Looks like a car that even the Smart would win against.
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      04-16-2008 07:50 AM #21
      Quote, originally posted by RollingInDubs »
      building a bunch of atoms would be the bomb!!11!!!


      *crickets*

      Sorry, but breaking up an atom would be da bomb.


    22. 04-16-2008 08:14 AM #22
      Quote, originally posted by iMpromptu »
      $90k for a go cart is ridiculous

      I thought the point was that they were cheap.


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      04-16-2008 08:18 AM #23
      Quote, originally posted by SebringMGB »
      There was a place in Seattle called Group 2 Motorsports, I belive they had (have?) a semi-side business of selling Ginettas they assembled, without the drivline. I talked to the owner (back in 2001) and he was saying they were selling them as rolling-chassis kit-cars. So... Perhaps a steetable one can be found in the PNW.

      There's a guy on Ferrarichat who lives in south FL who has a Ginetta. So there's at least one rolling around the country. One of the first things I want to do when I retire is build something like this...

      -R


    24. 04-16-2008 09:15 AM #24
      Buying something on this list would be cheaper than building or buying your own Atom, and less headache than building your own Locost.


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      04-16-2008 09:20 AM #25
      my car has a 01 miata motor. its not as hard to build as one might think!

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      04-16-2008 09:22 AM #26
      Quote, originally posted by munkey »


      LOL they actually have the right orbital filling orders too. man...

      Too bad the electons don't show spin

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      04-16-2008 09:29 AM #27
      Quote »
      Ok... this is something that I often mull around....
      Assuming you had the finacial means.... You have the knowledge needed to build a rigid enough chassis, build a body, assemble the car, etc...
      If you were to either copy the suspension geometry from a similar size vehicle, or just cannibalize the parts... And obviosly pick a drive-line...

      I think I would like to try something like that. Would it be possible for someone with fabrication skills, but no idea about engineering a vehicles suspension, to kinda.... fudge together a decent little sports car?

      That same person could build an airplane, but would you want to fly in it?


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    29. 04-16-2008 10:12 AM #29
      Quote, originally posted by AutoEuphoria »

      That same person could build an airplane, but would you want to fly in it?

      Thats just on the other side of absurd.

      Building an airplane is SLIGHTLY different from building a car... and the consequences of a semi-functional result would be a little heavier.

      You can get away with biulding a hotrod with less-than-stellar road maners. Generally speaking, you dont want to fly an aircraft which has a comprimised design.

      I would, however, have no problem flying in an experimental kit plane built by me, or someone whos constuction skills I trusted.


      Modified by SebringMGB at 7:14 AM 4-16-2008


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      04-16-2008 10:17 AM #30
      Quote, originally posted by chrisvette49 »

      What do you expect out of Ohio State?

      chicks who will sleep with you for a Natural Light
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    31. 04-16-2008 10:21 AM #31
      Quote, originally posted by ATL_Av8r »
      chicks who will sleep with you for a Natural Light

      Thats the deal I have with the Ohio State grad who I keep tied in the bedroom closet.


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      04-16-2008 10:46 AM #32
      Quote, originally posted by ATL_Av8r »
      chicks who will sleep with you for a Natural Light

      They do that at Ohio State too?


    33. 04-23-2008 10:33 AM #33
      Quote, originally posted by chrisvette49 »

      They do that at Ohio State too?

      yeah


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      04-23-2008 10:47 AM #34
      I'm building a Locost from a Nissan 240SX.

      Check out http://www.locostusa.com/forums Members are building cars out of all sorts of donors, traditional seven style, and some very non traditional builds (mid engined Atom like cars, tractor powered high-mpg cars, trikes etc.)

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      04-23-2008 11:36 AM #35
      Quote, originally posted by gtivr4 »
      I'm building a Locost from a Nissan 240SX.

      Check out http://www.locostusa.com/forums Members are building cars out of all sorts of donors, traditional seven style, and some very non traditional builds (mid engined Atom like cars, tractor powered high-mpg cars, trikes etc.)

      can you post links to the projects mentioned? i dont want to crawl through thousands of threads just to find these if you know where they are, thanks.

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