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    Thread: A Bilstein PSS9 Review

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      04-23-2008 08:38 PM #26
      Quote, originally posted by chwmy »
      please do not pay them any more money to adjust your shocks. for the fronts, just turn your steering wheel all the way in the direction of the side you are going to adjust: you can then slip your hand between the wheel and the front fender to reach the knob. as you know, it is at the bottom of the strut, and is covered by a rubber cap that you do not remove.

      that will happen regardless of the height with this kit. a zip tie will do it. fwiw, the abs harness is pricey, so they probably erased their profit with that error. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] to them for fixing it without argument.
      awesome review! i have had mine in for about 9 months, and have loved every minute of it.

      Modified by chwmy at 5:59 PM 4-23-2008

      thanks man!! So, far the shop has made all adjustments for free, so I can't complain. I have been taking my R32 (as well as my previous GTi) to this particular shop for about as long as I have lived in CA. A bit over 7 years. So, I know the guys over there and they treat me right. They even told me to bring it back in about another month for a final check-over and alignment.
      They probably did eat their profit by having to repair the ABS unit, but maybe some folks here on the 'tex will decide to get their install done there and they can make it up. They are an official Bilstein reseller and they price seemed to be in line with other places I looked at.
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      04-24-2008 10:05 AM #27
      Quote, originally posted by sdpauly »

      All that being said, if this picture is the rear spring when it isn't
      compressed, it still doesn't make sense. I don't see how the center 3
      coils can compress any further. They are not in a position to do so.
      I've been thinking of this kit, but really would like to hear from Bilstein first.
      Do you mind if I use this pic?

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      04-24-2008 10:37 AM #28
      several threads in the archive but most of the pictures are gone
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      04-24-2008 07:02 PM #29
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      Do you mind if I use this pic?

      not at all, go right ahead.
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      04-25-2008 06:59 AM #30
      I like my PSS9's alot, but I just sent back the 2nd set of rear springs... They collapsed again. Hope they replace them like last time.




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      04-25-2008 07:46 AM #31
      Just a thought why not contact Eibach/ GC and get a stiffer rear spring? It will help w/ 60' times and the pss9 shocks/struts can take up to a 450lb spring rate without revalving. Stiff rear springs really change the character of a car.
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      04-25-2008 08:29 AM #32
      I am running the Euro rear springs right now. The spring problems with the R32/TT have been around for at least 8 yrs, and they know about it...
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      04-25-2008 11:29 AM #33
      Quote, originally posted by climbingcue »
      I like my PSS9's alot, but I just sent back the 2nd set of rear springs... They collapsed again. Hope they replace them like last time.

      Quote, originally posted by climbingcue »
      I am running the Euro rear springs right now. The spring problems with the R32/TT have been around for at least 8 yrs, and they know about it...

      That's just ridiculous, especially for a company like Bilstein.
      How's the car when you use the Euro rear springs?
      From an adjustablility point of view, and for comfort+performance as
      per peoples reviews, I still feel like the PSS9s are for me.
      Until I have more $$, and more info, my OEM Euro will be staying on!

    9. 04-25-2008 11:40 AM #34
      Adjusting my Koni fronts is pretty easy... The rear though takes a little more work but can be done.
      I agree that is pretty crazy that you would go through 2 sets but I'm sure Bill isn't cruising around at 30mph all the time.

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      04-25-2008 12:22 PM #35
      Quote, originally posted by GR32 »
      How's the car when you use the Euro rear springs?

      Rides great just wish they dropped it a little lower...
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      04-25-2008 04:26 PM #36
      I don't drive around at 30mph either!!
      Between occasional track days, rips on twisty roads, and city driving, my car definitely gets "used".
      That suspension set up should withstand all that's thrown its way.

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      04-25-2008 10:49 PM #37
      I'm careful not to slam my car over the really bad parts of the LA roads but I like to drive my car hard and my springs are still holding up. It was one of the first mods I did on my car (daily driver) so there is 40k miles on them easy.
      Edit. Could be worse. You could have SHS
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      04-26-2008 04:31 PM #38
      Pic's are up of my rear springs in my 1st post...
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      04-26-2008 05:20 PM #39
      There's no need to get stiffer rear spring. 450 is a softer spring anyway. the stock rear springs are progressive to over 500lbs.
      the center 3 coils are designed to ONLY keep the system under tension at all times, ie going over a hill and extendingthe suspension fully. once they are in coil bind, it creates an area for the two end coils to be pushed towards themselves.

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      04-27-2008 10:12 AM #40
      Quote, originally posted by climbingcue »
      Rides great just wish they dropped it a little lower...

      Thought you said you had a motor boat effect going on? Did you resolve this?

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      04-28-2008 02:21 PM #41
      Honestly, the pics of yours, the new set up that the OP posted, and Smash's all look pretty much the same.
      Maybe your lowest coil is collapsed a bit.
      Quote, originally posted by M this 1! »
      the center 3 coils are designed to ONLY keep the system under tension at all times, ie going over a hill and extendingthe suspension fully. once they are in coil bind, it creates an area for the two end coils to be pushed towards themselves.

      I can understand that, and a similar idea popped through my head,
      but with some of the issue people have had, and the supposed
      problems that are "known" about their rear springs, I still don't like it.
      As per a conversation w/ Tyrolsport, I think that if I run the PSS9s, I
      will probably look for a different set of rear springs w/ as close a rate
      to the ones that come to the kit.

    17. 10-17-2008 12:19 PM #42
      I have a quick question.
      Im looking at the pictures and notice some guys have the perch up and some have it down. I personally have it in the up position on mine...

      What is the right way?

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      10-17-2008 12:36 PM #43
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      I have a quick question.
      Im looking at the pictures and notice some guys have the perch up and some have it down. I personally have it in the up position on mine...

      What is the right way?

      The adjustable perch goes on top of the spring. The stock rubber perch gets re-used underneath the Bilstein spring.
      Bill - Maybe your springs keep failing because you have your rear assembly installed upside down.

    19. 10-17-2008 01:37 PM #44
      Quote, originally posted by VRsexxy »
      The adjustable perch goes on top of the spring. The stock rubber perch gets re-used underneath the Bilstein spring.
      Bill - Maybe your springs keep failing because you have your rear assembly installed upside down.
      Yes, this is how i have it. Thanks..just wanted to verify..

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      10-17-2008 01:43 PM #45
      Quote, originally posted by VRsexxy »
      The adjustable perch goes on top of the spring. The stock rubber perch gets re-used underneath the Bilstein spring.
      Bill - Maybe your springs keep failing because you have your rear assembly installed upside down.

      I have had the Euro R32 rear springs in my car for about a year now. They work great, so I do not know if the Bilsteins are upside down or not. I sent pictures to Bilstein and they did not say anything about them being upside down.
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      10-17-2008 02:35 PM #46
      Quote, originally posted by VRsexxy »
      The adjustable perch goes on top of the spring. The stock rubber perch gets re-used underneath the Bilstein spring.
      Bill - Maybe your springs keep failing because you have your rear assembly installed upside down.

      Heummm, I didn't re-use the rubber. Maybe I should.

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      10-17-2008 06:08 PM #47
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      Heummm, I didn't re-use the rubber. Maybe I should.

      NO!!! Those are one time use! ...err... wrong rubber...
      seriously though - mine did not get the rubber back in either and it's been great for me that way.
      OP -nice review. Good choice. Sure you can spend more, but for us non-Stigs, I think the PSS9's are the perfect setup - adjustability, lifetime warranty, reputable company, quality product....
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      10-17-2008 06:23 PM #48
      Quote, originally posted by M00NEY »
      NO!!! Those are one time use! ...err... wrong rubber...
      seriously though - mine did not get the rubber back in either and it's been great for me that way.
      OP -nice review. Good choice. Sure you can spend more, but for us non-Stigs, I think the PSS9's are the perfect setup - adjustability, lifetime warranty, reputable company, quality product....

      thanks and x2 on your comments.

    24. 10-18-2008 02:38 PM #49
      So setting 1 = stiffest
      Setting 9 = softest?

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      10-18-2008 04:35 PM #50
      Quote, originally posted by Patryk R32 »
      So setting 1 = stiffest
      Setting 9 = softest?

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