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    1. 05-05-2008 10:47 AM #126
      So I ran today for the first time since I hurt my knee last summer (about one year ago now)
      It sucked. I ran one lap around a track for a warm up. Ran 5 sprints, walked two laps as a cool down and I was down. I think part of the reason I had such a hard time was cuz I had just finished lifting and I did power cleans and front squats which really gassed me. I'm going to start running sprints a few times a week.
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      05-05-2008 10:49 AM #127
      first times always suck, and ya, i imagine it was only made worse by the lifting.
      what did you do to your knee last year? i've banged mine up a bit in the past.
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    3. 05-05-2008 02:41 PM #128
      Quote, originally posted by spoolin215 »
      I'm going to start running sprints a few times a week.

      Don't forget running hills. That's great for speed and endurance. But, make sure you walk down backwards, or at least a gradual zig-zag down to keep the strain off your knees.

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      05-05-2008 03:26 PM #129
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      Just voted. We need 100 votes, right?

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      05-05-2008 05:03 PM #130
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      I ran a 5.56 minute mile at school today, my teacher threatened to fail me if I don't do track next year. The thing is, I still got a gut so how would I do if I lost it....
      I believe the general rule is 2 seconds per mile for every 1 pound lost. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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      after leaving mizuno to adidas...now back to mizuno...i will never go back, these shoes are amazing
      Same here! Although I haven't gone back to Mizuno yet. My adidas Supernova 7 Cushions rip nasty holes in the same toe on each foot during any run over four miles. I went seven miles this morning so it's pretty gory down there. Very disappointed that I didn't go with the Asics Gel Cumulus. I won't go back to Mizuno until the Wave Rider line returns to it's pre 10 & 11 roots.

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      05-05-2008 06:14 PM #131
      I just started week 9 of my running program:http://www.americanrunning.org/associations/412/files/12-week_walkrun.pdf
      Today was strange, walk one minute, run 30 seconds, repeat a zillion times. It went by quickly, but too many tempo changes to get into the groove.
      Tomorrow will be a test, to run 20 min; last week was ok, doing 15 all at once.
      I know these are just drops in the bucket compared to some other runners in here, but for me these are significant. Feeling better every week though. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      05-05-2008 06:45 PM #132
      Been sick and have not been out.. going to look for that gel stuff though.. cause, ya know.
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      05-05-2008 07:58 PM #133
      Any of you guys get pain in your spleen during a run? That was my bodies way of telling me to chill the **** out today I guess.
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    9. 05-05-2008 08:02 PM #134
      Werd? You narrowed the pain down to your spleen eh?
      I get pains in my pancreas from time to time.

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      05-05-2008 08:02 PM #135
      So what do you guys do for recovery? Immediately after a training run as well as a race? And then over the next 24 hours or so?

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      05-05-2008 08:09 PM #136
      well how long are your training runs? a few miles, a dozen miles? how about your races, 5k, 10k, half marathons, marathons?
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      05-05-2008 09:14 PM #137
      Just a beginner here. Been running about 2 months now on a track at the local high school.
      At the beginning, could barely run a mile - ran the straights and walked the curve of the track for 4 laps. Now, I can jog 6 laps (or 1 1/2 miles) or run 4 laps (1 mile, at 8:30 - 9 minutes) at a higher pace before having to stop and walk to rest. And then do another 1 1 /2 miles with some running the straights and walking the curves, or jogging a lap before needing to walk 1/2 lap to rest. I do this about 3-4 times a week, with 1 rest day in between.
      Some times I'm too lazy to go to the local high school and just run this loop around my neighborhood. It's about 1 1/2 miles with some inclines and rolling hills. This is tougher than the track and reminds me why I should go and use the track.
      Usually, what I do is after I get home is to shower and then lay on a bed for an hour or so to relax before I go out to surf.

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      05-05-2008 09:47 PM #138
      you should stretch when your done, at least your quads, hamstrings, calves and ideally shins, groin, and back too. 30 seconds each stretch, 3 stretches each muscle group.
      thats all you really need.
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      05-05-2008 10:34 PM #139
      Quote, originally posted by Idleone »
      Just a beginner here. Been running about 2 months now on a track at the local high school.
      At the beginning, could barely run a mile - ran the straights and walked the curve of the track for 4 laps. Now, I can jog 6 laps (or 1 1/2 miles) or run 4 laps (1 mile, at 8:30 - 9 minutes) at a higher pace before having to stop and walk to rest. And then do another 1 1 /2 miles with some running the straights and walking the curves, or jogging a lap before needing to walk 1/2 lap to rest. I do this about 3-4 times a week, with 1 rest day in between.
      Some times I'm too lazy to go to the local high school and just run this loop around my neighborhood. It's about 1 1/2 miles with some inclines and rolling hills. This is tougher than the track and reminds me why I should go and use the track.
      Usually, what I do is after I get home is to shower and then lay on a bed for an hour or so to relax before I go out to surf.

      Hills are WONDERFUL for building your running abilities, and you feel kick ass when you look back and realize you conquered that bitch.

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      05-05-2008 10:49 PM #140
      Quote, originally posted by Idleone »
      So what do you guys do for recovery? Immediately after a training run as well as a race? And then over the next 24 hours or so?

      On long runs I like to have a few pieces of fruit and 20-25 grams of whey protein immediately afterwards. Seems to help, and I read somewhere that that's what many pros do. I also stretch a little and walk until I'd rather sit. The next day I just take it easy.

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      05-05-2008 11:25 PM #141

      It's kind of easy to pinpoint pain in your spleen if you know where it is.
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      05-06-2008 12:36 AM #142
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      I guess I'll put this in here, why not.. I've been playing a lot of soccer recently, and it has always been my problem, even back in HS... my first step or my acceleration is just not at a point where I want it to be. I think I have a decent top end.. that can always improve with some sprints. And I looked around the internets a little bit.. I guess it is a question of fast twitch vs slow twitch muscles? They say fast twitch muscles build most effectively when you lift around 70% 1rm.. or do the actual activity (sprinting, burst runs)..
      My question is, what muscles are prominent in getting your initial acceleration? I know this is not the key to being fast. Other things like BF% and natural ability play a role... but does anyone know? or is there a specific way to train, as far as lifting is concerned? Any college athletes in here?

      To improve your quickness I would recommend sprints in short spurts,
      high knees, quick feet, butt kicks. Anything to get your legs moving
      quick will help you out of the gate. A lot of your pick up speed can also be
      generated from your upper body. Get used to pumping your arms chest high
      to thigh and nothing past. Im a little guy, so in soccer quickness was my
      strength and my track coach was always hounding me lol
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      05-06-2008 12:39 AM #143
      Quote, originally posted by 95GTIVR6Speed »

      It's kind of easy to pinpoint pain in your spleen if you know where it is.

      There is a lot of stuff in that left upper quadrant, brotha. You've got a stomach, colon, pancreas, liver, lung and spleen all occupying the same space right there, not to mention your diaphram. If it's really your spleen that's hurting, you probably want to see a doctor ASAP because it holds a significant amount of blood and a rupture would send you into hypovolemic shock and ultimately kill you without very quick emergency medical treatment.
      My money's actually on your diaphragm. I get weird sharp pains on either side towards the ends of my long runs. I attribute it to something called a "stitch." Check this out and see if it matches your problem. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/h...0.stm. My second guess would be your stomach.


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      05-06-2008 07:06 AM #144
      Quote, originally posted by Sozsei »
      There is a lot of stuff in that left upper quadrant, brotha. You've got a stomach, colon, pancreas, liver, lung and spleen all occupying the same space right there, not to mention your diaphram. If it's really your spleen that's hurting, you probably want to see a doctor ASAP because it holds a significant amount of blood and a rupture would send you into hypovolemic shock and ultimately kill you without very quick emergency medical treatment.
      My money's actually on your diaphragm. I get weird sharp pains on either side towards the ends of my long runs. I attribute it to something called a "stitch." Check this out and see if it matches your problem. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/h...0.stm. My second guess would be your stomach.

      Modified by Sozsei at 9:41 PM 5-5-2008

      Nah that doesn't sound like it.
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    20. 05-06-2008 07:20 AM #145
      Quote, originally posted by jnm1point8t »
      first times always suck, and ya, i imagine it was only made worse by the lifting.
      what did you do to your knee last year? i've banged mine up a bit in the past.

      I was in a motorcycle accident and partially tore my ACL in my left knee. I am SO sore today in my groin, hip flexors, and obliques from the sprints yesterday.
      Quote, originally posted by 602crew »
      Don't forget running hills. That's great for speed and endurance. But, make sure you walk down backwards, or at least a gradual zig-zag down to keep the strain off your knees.

      Good point. Thanks!
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      05-06-2008 07:21 AM #146
      ugh... my posterior shin splint just wont go away permanenetly. gotta be something mechanical but i'm going to have to take a few days off for now. it doesnt help that i walk about 2 miles a day to/from work and another 2-3 with the dog. can't cut those back so it's going to have to be the running miles.
      ... but couldnt have come at a more opportune time... heading to Mexico early Thursday morning. i'll maybe run once or twice depending how i feel, but i am NOT looking forward to my first week back to running after vacation.
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    22. 05-06-2008 10:24 AM #147
      Quote, originally posted by jnm1point8t »
      ... but couldnt have come at a more opportune time... heading to Mexico early Thursday morning. i'll maybe run once or twice depending how i feel, but i am NOT looking forward to my first week back to running after vacation.

      You shouldn't be thinking about that now man, you should be enjoying your vacation.
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      05-06-2008 10:38 AM #148
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      05-06-2008 10:40 AM #149
      Quote, originally posted by spoolin215 »
      You shouldn't be thinking about that now man, you should be enjoying your vacation.

      ya... but im a bit disappointed i can't run.
      d'ah well, nothing some cerveza and tequila won't help me forget about.
      i spose i could use a week off running anyways, i think i've been a bit too serious about my training. im just starting out, there's no need to rush things.
      plus when i come back i will do the first week back on at my easy pace as a nice easing back into things and see how the shin goes. it's not terribly painful, in fact it doesn't even make me stop running... but it also hasn't gone away and i could see it becoming more of an issue.


      Modified by jnm1point8t at 10:42 AM 5-6-2008
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      05-06-2008 11:10 AM #150
      Quote, originally posted by jnm1point8t »
      ya... but im a bit disappointed i can't run.
      d'ah well, nothing some cerveza and tequila won't help me forget about.
      i spose i could use a week off running anyways, i think i've been a bit too serious about my training. im just starting out, there's no need to rush things.
      plus when i come back i will do the first week back on at my easy pace as a nice easing back into things and see how the shin goes. it's not terribly painful, in fact it doesn't even make me stop running... but it also hasn't gone away and i could see it becoming more of an issue.

      Modified by jnm1point8t at 10:42 AM 5-6-2008

      Rushing things leads to injuries...ask me how I know. I haven't been able to run for 2 weeks and it'll probably be another 2 before I can get back into the swing of things. Thank God for bicycles...

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